Will There Ever Be a Global Government on Earth?

We have to if we want to ever join the Federation. We also need warp capabilities.

I think people are looking at this from a personal lifetime view. It isn't likely to happen in the next few generations, although it is possible. I think it will eventually happen though in the next few centuries. We are working hard, as humans, to make internal social changes rather than forcing people to accept governments through force. There are some groups that are more than willing to try to force their views on others and that might be what happens. But such a government would not likely last long. But if getting different countries to change their views on rights of the people and that the people need to decide for themselves then I can see a large, global government form. It would take a while though. Some countries/regions are not even close to such a change in views.

And there will always be opposition to a global government, just as there is always some opposition to all forms of government.

spanky said:

Not the end of the world per se, the biblical final battle between Yahweh and Satan when 1/3 of the people on earth die, including all the Jews except for 100k who accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Then Jesus sets up his 1000 year global gubmint on earth.

All lot of christians are getting their ducks in order for that one. They want a good spot in line.

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This is sort of narrow minded don't you think? I prefer a pandemic which is more abitrary. The end result is that humans finally reach carrying capacity (1.75 billion) and hopefullly have the good sense to stay there.

OnWisconsin said:

I can see something to the effect of the European Union, Asian Union, North American Union, South American Union, African Union.. and possibly partnerships between them, however a single global gov't probably isn't in the best interests of anyone, and would be extremely difficult to deal with.

There is already gridlock among American gov't, and we are only around 310million people. Imagine +6 billion people all with different religions/cultures/ideologies/social structures/wealth trying to be governed under one.. It would be a massive undertaking that I just don't see possible.

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Like I said. Global no continental possibly

jacobchillerman said:

Already happening, it's called "NATO".

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Ahh Not NATO North Atlantic Treaty Organization. HOW is that global.

Possibly. But not likely in my lifetime.

Krhazy said:

And what series of events would need to occur for such a government to come into existence?

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Interstellar exploration and war. No nation is rich enough or strong enough to finance the construction and manning of an interstellar fleet. See Halo's UNSC, Babylon 5's Earth Alliance and UN in Space Above & Beyond.

The internet.

In stories and fairytales the dream to rule the world is attributed to what forces? That's right, dark forces. So, to hell with them.

...with global communication and social networking, borders lose relevance and problems which would otherwise require arbitration can be resolved organically. If we choose to, we can build information systems to acurately reflect our opinions and definitively resolve issues. For international acceptance and other fundamental reasons, it would need to be an open source effort allowing full 'under the hood' visibility. With assurred privacy and validated identity, an individual can stake their ground on any matter with all the power of an actual vote. That data can be represented at aggregate levels to give relevance only to issues that deserve attention. We continue to fall-back on human language as a way to bridge divides so absolutley far apart that public talking points don't even intersect. In those cases, discussion is a 100% waste-of-time (including this one). A self governing system can be built from the ground up with "business logic that is either endorsed or repealed" based on user interaction. This board is the best I've found and attracts people with far more meaningful opinions than news comments can facilitate but is fundamentally impotent.

Krhazy said:

And what series of events would need to occur for such a government to come into existence?

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Depends on what you mean by global government. I think a global confederation is very likely at some point in time, and I believe that we've been building towards it since at least the end of the Second World War. I don't believe it to necessarily be a bad thing.

I imagine a stronger coalition of nations is likely once population centers develop off of earth.

I surely hope not, but I could definitely acknowledge the possibility of such a global political establishment.

I think it is possible, maybe even likely, however, I don't think it would ever last. As history has shown us, peoples, cultures, polities, etc. want political autonomy sooner or later from their "overlords." With so many geo-political concerns, cultural/ethnic groups and identities, competing political/world ideologies, unique or regional economic realities, and so on and so forth. With all these things in play it would be impossible, in my opinion, to keep a world government together and keep everyone happy and not wanting to secede from the world governmental authority. We are having a hard enough time here with our Federation of states, and the confederate-federation hybrid that is the EU seems to be encountering serious problems.

Plus, people would also have to decide who would be predominantly in control or have the majority of authority in the government and where the capital would be situated.

If, to play Devil's advocate, we were to ever get to a world government (most like a world federation), I think we'd first have to coalesce into large regional federal polities. Perhaps along continental lines like the EU, the North American Union, etc. That would make representation in a world government easier to achieve, at least. We'd also need a global currency.

In the end, I sure hope we never move toward a world government. I'd much rather see us go the other way and have devolution from our own central government's tyranny toward more state and local government control.

I think a loosely affiliated, non-binding confederation much like we have now with some tweaks and modifications would be the ideal. But I wouldn't want to see us or anyone else beholden to the views and power of others, especially stronger states. I tend to have a more Machiavellian Realist view when it comes to global politics, especially considering our place in the world. The first modern attempt at it was the League of Nations, the precursor to the UN.

Fisher said:

So we have Americans talking secession but we think we are gonna get along with the Sri Lankans enough to have a government with them? LOL.

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Americans aren't talking recession. A few crazy people angry that they lost an election are talking about secession. Not a single state government has petitioned for secession. That makes your statement about as accurate (and intellectually honest) as 'Scientists are having a debate about wether Creationism is a valid scientific theory'.

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Americans aren't talking recession. A few crazy people angry that they lost an election are talking about secession. Not a single state government has petitioned for secession. That makes your statement about as accurate (and intellectually honest) as 'Scientists are having a debate about wether Creationism is a valid scientific theory'.

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Where in my statement do I mention any US State petitioning for secession? My statements was "So we have Americans talking secession but we think we are gonna get along with the Sri Lankans enough to have a government with them? LOL.". Once again your reading comprehension lags behind your agenda as do your made up facts as I do not recall ever making the other statement you attribute to me either. Feel free to find the quotes from me saying that I have ever said States are petitioning to succeed or that "Scientists are having a debate about whether Creationism is a valid scientific theory" or just sneak away like a little fibber does.....

Most likely not. There are too many different beliefs (political/religious) for us all to be a part of the same government.

Krhazy said:

And what series of events would need to occur for such a government to come into existence?

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The first step would have to be for the US President to usurp all national power. I hear Barack Obama might be willing to accept that mantle if enough brainless minions get in his camp....

Nope too many world interests to form one world gov. Very unrealistic chance of ever happening.

Ever is an incredibly long time.

With respect, there is no possible way I or anyone else can accurately answer that question within the near future.

I think that Global Warming will focus the world against a common enemy and a World gov't will be the only viable alternative to achieve common goals.

People aren't smart enough to have a global government, at least not yet.
We can barely handle a national government, as it is.

Fisher said:

Where in my statement do I mention any US State petitioning for secession? My statements was "So we have Americans talking secession but we think we are gonna get along with the Sri Lankans enough to have a government with them? LOL.". Once again your reading comprehension lags behind your agenda as do your made up facts as I do not recall ever making the other statement you attribute to me either. Feel free to find the quotes from me saying that I have ever said States are petitioning to succeed or that "Scientists are having a debate about whether Creationism is a valid scientific theory" or just sneak away like a little fibber does.....

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Again, your statement is that AMERICANS in general are talking about secession. This isn't even close to being true. It's 3 cats in an alley bitching cause they lost in an election.

Harry Guerrilla said:

People aren't smart enough to have a global government, at least not yet.
We can barely handle a national government, as it is.

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I never suggested that they would be smart, just united against a common enemy. I'd never accuse humanity of being smart collectively.

It will take about 1000 years, but I think the world will end up with one government.