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Kids n' Kondoms

What age?

  • 11 - 12

    Votes: 6 14.0%
  • 13 - 14

    Votes: 9 20.9%
  • 15 - 16

    Votes: 6 14.0%
  • 17 - 18

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 7.0%
  • Oh, hell no!

    Votes: 19 44.2%

  • Total voters
    43
  • Poll closed .
So, how is this logical? Did you want to get pregnant whilst at school? I know for a fact, that almost nobody ever will bother to go anywhere to get a condom, so very few use it, but if you didn't have to actually go out of your way to get it, because it is there, then you will use it. I was told to use it always, by everyone, and I am absolutely surprised, that here is the 1st adult in the universe, you, who argues against it. Maybe, can you clarify?

My later posts address why I hold that view - they're the worst form of birth control out there. But that's not even the point - the point is that it's not the school's business or place to provide them - period. . . no matter how effective they are.
 
So, how is this logical? Did you want to get pregnant whilst at school? I know for a fact, that almost nobody ever will bother to go anywhere to get a condom, so very few use it, but if you didn't have to actually go out of your way to get it, because it is there, then you will use it. I was told to use it always, by everyone, and I am absolutely surprised, that here is the 1st adult in the universe, you, who argues against it. Maybe, can you clarify?

That's not the question. The question is whether at age 10 or 12 or 14 she wanted to get f/cked, AND she needed the school to help her out with that by surrounding her with little boys with condoms in their pockets.
 
Abstinence education by who?

NOT ALL PARENTS agree that "safe" promiscuous sex is superior to "risky sex" when it comes to disease and pregnancy. There are parents who would prefer their child get pregnant or have a baby even if not ready and possibly a premature marriage or relationship - that then might end in divorce or not - than to become promiscuous "semi-safely." Not everyone agrees that teen pregnancy is evil or wrong. Some do believe that sex SHOULD risk pregnancy - thus reducing promiscuity and all the dangers they see that as bringing. Some would rather their kid have sex once and get pregnant or have a baby, then have lots of sex, no kid, but then still risk being pregnancy from someone she had no relationship with at all and HIV positive too to her believing there is such a thing as "safe sex" with others who believe the same thing.

Well, I guess that pregnancy is one way to reduce promiscuity, but since the goal as understood in this thread is to reduce std's and pregnancies so that students can carry on with their education then that approach will be generally ineffective. So again, what is the goal here? Is it reduce teen std's and pregnancy, or is it to condemn teen sex? One approach is effective, the other is not.
Who gets to gamble with their kid's whole life, future and values? The parents? Or the school?

In addition, the parents might not LIKE the condoms the school is giving out. For size. Quality. Whether or not has spermicide. Don't know how old they are. How they were stored etc.

Parents buying the condoms they prefer for their children is not incompatible with schools providing condoms. What next? Complain that the school is selling Pepsi when the parents prefer Coke?

The school handing out condoms is the school making a statement about sex

Yes, and that statement is "be careful," because the statement "sex is bad, mkay?" has already been shown not to work.

- sex that may well be felony illegal to have

While I'm not educated on all state laws I've never heard of teen sex being illegal.


- and that statement may exactly contradict the parents.

Then the parents are free to carry out the abominable option of homeschooling their children. If schools were to have education and programs that each and every parent approved of, schools could not exist.
 
At 11 or under, rather under ... although the statistics are not known, students fooling with each other in elementary schools can't be stomped out.
So just throw in the towel and start passing out the Trojans?
 
So just throw in the towel and start passing out the Trojans?

Yes.

That or just chemically castrate the little buggers.
 
**** that, they can buy their own rubbers like everyone else.

LOL - let's hear everyone start demanding that all workplaces provide a full line of bc.
 
Yes.

That or just chemically castrate the little buggers.
How about just "fix" the parents for failing to educate their children?
 
Oh, hell no! Either express self control or buy them yourselves.
 
Put free condom dispensers in the bathrooms of middle schools and high schools. If they have to ask for them they likely won't.

And as I showed earlier, it would prevent STD's, but not necessarily pregnancies, which is what kids are being taught these days.
 
How about just "fix" the parents for failing to educate their children?

Will this retroactively fix the teen pregnancy/std?
 
LOL - let's hear everyone start demanding that all workplaces provide a full line of bc.

When I was in school, some sex ed chick used to hand them out. The vast majority of those condoms were either used for practical jokes, or were left forgotten and expired in a wallet.
 
Will this retroactively fix the teen pregnancy/std?
Nah, I was just knee-jerkin' with ya. ;)

I think that anyone who believes teenagers, especially minors, should be wearing condoms, should also have zero problem with pedophiles jumping in on the action.
 
Nah, I was just knee-jerkin' with ya. ;)

I think that anyone who believes teenagers, especially minors, should be wearing condoms, should also have zero problem with pedophiles jumping in on the action.

rephrased:

I think that anyone who believes teenagers, especially minors, should have access to cheap effective pregnancy prevention equipment, should have zero problem with the violent rape and murder of children. :lamo
 
My later posts address why I hold that view - they're the worst form of birth control out there.

No they aren't. The worst form of birth control is no birth control at all, which is generally the alternative.

But that's not even the point - the point is that it's not the school's business or place to provide them - period. . . no matter how effective they are.

Again, the alternative is worse: The school will have to educate an additional unwanted child for 13 years, and the state will (usually) have to provide other forms of assistance. You may not consider it to be the "school's business" to provide them, but if nothing else the school is prudently watching out for its own financial future.
 
No they aren't. The worst form of birth control is no birth control at all, which is generally the alternative.



Again, the alternative is worse: The school will have to educate an additional unwanted child for 13 years, and the state will (usually) have to provide other forms of assistance. You may not consider it to be the "school's business" to provide them, but if nothing else the school is prudently watching out for its own financial future.

No - see - that's why we fund planned parenthood, wic, etc . . . to provide these things.

That's not good enough?

they can't give tylenol - but they can give condoms . . . oh yeah, that makes sense.
 
No they aren't. The worst form of birth control is no birth control at all, which is generally the alternative.



Again, the alternative is worse: The school will have to educate an additional unwanted child for 13 years, and the state will (usually) have to provide other forms of assistance. You may not consider it to be the "school's business" to provide them, but if nothing else the school is prudently watching out for its own financial future.

wrong. accept the abstinence only indoctrination, or you will be assimilated.
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My later posts address why I hold that view - they're the worst form of birth control out there.

Aren't all other forms of birth control a chemical interference with the girl's body, leading to her weight gain and many other destructions against her?

But that's not even the point - the point is that it's not the school's business or place to provide them - period. . . no matter how effective they are.

But we all are at school most of our hours ... .
 
That's not the question. The question is whether at age 10 or 12 or 14 she wanted to get f/cked, AND she needed the school to help her out with that by surrounding her with little boys with condoms in their pockets.

If giving condoms to guys is condescending against women, then I think you are right, it should not be done. But then ... who will protect the GUY against his "mistake"?
 
No - see - that's why we fund planned parenthood, wic, etc . . . to provide these things.

That's not good enough?

I'm not sure what wic is, but Planned Parenthood does not have regularly access to students on a daily basis in the same way that the school does. The school is the most logical place to provide teens with birth control, because it is the government entity that has the most direct contact with them.

they can't give tylenol - but they can give condoms . . . oh yeah, that makes sense.

Well I think they should be able to give Tylenol too. :)
 
So just throw in the towel and start passing out the Trojans?

Maybe they should DISCRETELY teach girls that it is okay to have one with her, and take one at a discrete location in school, so that she can put one on her guy when she takes sex from him. This would not be the same as passing them out like flyers, I didn't mean a bad taste.
 
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