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Will Obama live up to his victory speech?

Will Obama live up to his victory speech?

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Cephus said:
You mean like the Democrats do every time there's a Republican in the White House?
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I think it has gotten worse each election recently. Someone needs to say enough.
 
Nah, Obama's reverend had it right. God damn America.

Love your neighbor, love your town, your city, your state, your brothers and your sisters. But America? Let's bust this place up.

Boo Radley said:
I kind of like the place.
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Boo Radley said:
I think it has gotten worse each election recently. Someone needs to say enough.
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Neither party gives a damn about the country, just about getting into power. I'm just waiting until they start shooting at each other like the Hatfields and McCoys.
 
It does not really matter wheather or not he lives up to his victory speech. A junior senator winning a second term of office is no mean feat or fluke.
 
Cephus said:
Neither party gives a damn about the country, just about getting into power. I'm just waiting until they start shooting at each other like the Hatfields and McCoys.
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Haha- that will be a looooong wait, as men don't believe in duels anymore, but prefer to just outspend each other and take the rest of us over the cliff with them. :lol:
 
Peter Grimm said:
Nah, Obama's reverend had it right. God damn America.

Love your neighbor, love your town, your city, your state, your brothers and your sisters. But America? Let's bust this place up.
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You're not understanding the tradition behind the rhetoric doesn't make it what you think it is. Sorry.
 
Cephus said:
Neither party gives a damn about the country, just about getting into power. I'm just waiting until they start shooting at each other like the Hatfields and McCoys.
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I don't buy that about either party. Certainly they had self interest, as do most of us, and money is too involved and thus hinders real work, but there are some decent people trying to do some good work. Disagreeing on what is best for the country doesn't amke anyone evil.
 
I have no clue what you're talking about. All I'm saying is don't appeal to my sense of patriotism, because I could care less about America.

I like most Americans, but I don't care about America.

Boo Radley said:
You're not understanding the tradition behind the rhetoric doesn't make it what you think it is. Sorry.
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Peter Grimm said:
Nah, Obama's reverend had it right. God damn America.

Love your neighbor, love your town, your city, your state, your brothers and your sisters. But America? Let's bust this place up.
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No. But there's a link on another thread listing pages of Obama compromises. And frankly republicans were left out of the healthcare debate when they made clear their only objective was to derail the president for re-election. I don't like seeing that in either party. Some conservatives make excuses for that behavior. They shouldn't. Nor should anyone excuse pruely obstructionst behavior from democrats. But even with healthcare reform, a lot republican ideas were included. And still, I suspect you don't see that as giving to republicans. I have to tell you, many liberals believe he gave too much. Odd how different vantage points read things quite differently.
 
Peter Grimm said:
I have no clue what you're talking about. All I'm saying is don't appeal to my sense of patriotism, because I could care less about America.

I like most Americans, but I don't care about America.
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Can't speak for you, or anyone else, really. But I don't believe you have it right. I think you're just exhibiting sour grapes.
 
lizzie said:
Haha- that will be a looooong wait, as men don't believe in duels anymore, but prefer to just outspend each other and take the rest of us over the cliff with them. :lol:
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Heh, you're probably right. Too bad, maybe we could take some of these losers out in the ensuing shootout.
 
Did he the first time? No.
 
Nope he will not. I present his first term as exhibit A.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
It doesn't matter whether you’re black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American or young or old or rich or poor, able, disabled, gay or straight, you can make it here in America if you’re willing to try. - Barack Obama after his re-election on November 6, 2012

That's not divisive.
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it is also not entirely true....there are lots of ways to discriminate, even those who were formerly the victims of discrimination are sometimes guilty of discrimination...
 
cpgrad08 said:
Nope he will not. I present his first term as exhibit A.
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yep, he had both houses and still did little to nothing, then sat back and coasted for the next 2 years. I hope his On The Job training period is over, time for him to do some real work....
 
I will say the same thing I thought when he was elected the first time. I would love to see the dude succeed and leave this country better than the way he found it. I am also proud that our country elected a black man as POTUS, no matter his party or political lean. However, as it is, he hasn't done much to help at all. He's done the equivalent of almost going under on his house payment and claiming victory for paying it off with a credit card. He's made the world hate us more with his drone strikes and continued war in Afghanistan. Terrorists are becoming bold again. 7 plus % unemployment has become the new norm. Bipartisanship is at its most rampant (You can say all you want about the right. It takes 2 to tango).And the lies and controversy are ever present. One good thing for all American people about his re-election. He will have to face the Libya situation now. The media may stop giving him a pass now that he can't be re-elected. They have no reason to give him a pass. I know that's EXTREMELY optimistic when speaking of our countries media but hey, I can dream can't I?
 
Mycroft said:
To be honest, I listened to about two minutes of his speech and turned it off because I knew it would be the usual, empty rhetoric he's flung at us so many times before.

As far as him achieving any of the grandiose and lofty goals he proclaimed...I sincerely hope he fails.
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You must be pissed that the strong showing you were expecting Colorado to give - never showed up. ;)
 
Mycroft said:
To be honest, I listened to about two minutes of his speech and turned it off because I knew it would be the usual, empty rhetoric he's flung at us so many times before.

As far as him achieving any of the grandiose and lofty goals he proclaimed...I sincerely hope he fails.
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this is the problem with america and politics today
 
Mycroft said:
ummm...

You DO know that Obama only got 50% of the popular vote...right? The "old, rich, religious, white guy GOP platform" got the other 50%.

Liberal hyperbole is alive and well...even after it won.
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a win is a win is a win... right? and i'm guessing a good amount of those on the right only voted for Romney because that was the only shot to get Obama out, not because they support the "old, rich, religious, white guy GOP platform"
 
OnWisconsin said:
a win is a win is a win... right? and i'm guessing a good amount of those on the right only voted for Romney because that was the only shot to get Obama out, not because they support the "old, rich, religious, white guy GOP platform"
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shrug...

Of course, a win is a win...there's no disputing that.

As to the other, it works both ways. Obama getting the win doesn't mean that "We now know that most Americans don't agree with the old, rich, religious, white guy GOP platform." Especially with such a narrow win as Obama achieved...your speculation notwithstanding.

In other words, you can't justify Risky Thicket's statement by citing a guess.
 
Hatuey said:
You must be pissed that the strong showing you were expecting Colorado to give - never showed up. ;)
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Not pissed...disappointed.
 
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