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How many things has Obama done that has made the economy better?

How many things has Obama done that has made the economy better?

  • Zero

    Votes: 6 37.5%

  • One

    Votes: 1 6.3%

  • Two

    Votes: 1 6.3%

  • Three or more

    Votes: 8 50.0%
  • Total voters
    16
TurtleDude said:
I never said you said that-I said the Obama campaign appeals to mediocrity-and he does
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As you were addressing me, it has nothing to do with my argument, hence a strawman.
 
TurtleDude said:
one of the worst lies from Obunny was the spliced 60 Minutes interview of Romney when "yes that is fair" is applied to the false claim that people making 50K a year might be paying a higher effective income tax rate than Romney does on investment income
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We could play dueling lies. How do you think Romeny would hold up?
 
Boo Radley said:
We could play dueling lies. How do you think Romeny would hold up?
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no lie on the right comes close to the biggest whopper of them all

that rich democrat elites really want the poor to be pulled out of poverty and freed from government dependence.
 
roflpublican said:
do you have another source other than rush limbaugh?
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four years of failure-increased unemployment, massive UNDERemployment, 6 trillion more deficit dollars, what more do you need.
 
TurtleDude said:
no lie on the right comes close to the biggest whopper of them all

that rich democrat elites really want the poor to be pulled out of poverty and freed from government dependence.
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Oh, we could do better. That working folk are served best by appeasing the wealthy.
 
Boo Radley said:
Oh, we could do better. That working folk are served best by appeasing the wealthy.
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I don't recall anyone making that claim. that assumes that the working class own the wealth of the rich and somehow allow us to keep some of it
 
TurtleDude said:
I don't recall anyone making that claim. that assumes that the working class own the wealth of the rich and somehow allow us to keep some of it
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Nonsense. The relationship between workers and the wealthy is one of mutual need. You don't seem to understand this.
 
TurtleDude said:
I love the appeal to mediocrity and the masses. which is why the founders limited the power of the masses so as to prevent mediocrity.
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He can't run on his record other than his OBL/GM mantra and only the mediocre will be fooled that that is enough to warrant a second term.
 
Boo Radley said:
Listening too much to Limbaugh says something. :coffeepap
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Can't refute his assertions so try to discredit him as a source. Got it.
 
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TurtleDude said:
four years of failure-increased unemployment, massive UNDERemployment, 6 trillion more deficit dollars, what more do you need.
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bolded is my main concern, i hate how that issue is downplayed.
 
roflpublican said:
do you have another source other than rush limbaugh?
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Oh seeker of truth, do you really spit in the face of one who delivers what you'd purport to want above all else?
 
TurtleDude said:
I don't recall anyone making that claim. that assumes that the working class own the wealth of the rich and somehow allow us to keep some of it
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Where we would be w/o the working class?
 
Boo Radley said:
Oh, we could do better. That working folk are served best by appeasing the wealthy.
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Liberals love narratives, stories. so here's one for ya. Think of the wealthy as geese who lay golden eggs. The golden eggs are jobs. Now, what kind of diet are yu gonna provide for these geese?

A skimpy, miserly diet or a good, nourishing and healthy diet?

And especially when you know that the good diet means more golden eggs.

Libs are so childishly stupid.
 
marsden said:
Can't refute his assertions so try to discredit him as a source. Got it.
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Hardly. Heard a 18 year old college student kick his butt once. He was reduced to merely yelling "why do you hate America!" So, refuting him is easy. In this case, just require him to actually produce valid support. It would be a new experience for him.
 
marsden said:
Liberals love narratives, stories. so here's one for ya. Think of the wealthy as geese who lay golden eggs. The golden eggs are jobs. Now, what kind of diet are yu gonna provide for these geese?

A skimpy, miserly diet or a good, nourishing and healthy diet?

And especially when you know that the good diet means more golden eggs.

Libs are so childishly stupid.
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Not sure where you get this nonsense, but no, that doesn't reflect what I think at all.
 
roflpublican said:
indeed, obama has stopped the bush decline, but he has yet to put the recovery on a stable positive footing.
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Maybe that simply takes more than four years to accomplish. It took more than four years to tank the economy. As long as we are making progress, then I think we're headed in the right direction. Reverting back to the policies that crashed us in the first place is hardly a step forward.

Boo Radley said:
Nonsense. The relationship between workers and the wealthy is one of mutual need. You don't seem to understand this.
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Yeah, it's hard for a lot of folks to shake that serfdom mentality. Some think that this is still the middle ages and society exists to benefit a tiny minority of powerful people at the expense of everybody else.

marsden said:
Liberals love narratives, stories. so here's one for ya. Think of the wealthy as geese who lay golden eggs. The golden eggs are jobs. Now, what kind of diet are yu gonna provide for these geese?
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No part of the golden goose analogy is true. Intelligent people in their garages found companies, based on a new idea for a great product. Hardworking middle class people make those products. Nowhere in the equation are rich people actually necessary. The real golden geese are the creative minds who develop the next big idea, not the market strategist that helps them reach a bigger audience.
 
I voted zero, because I genuinely don't know. Who can enlighten us?
 
Boo Radley said:
He helped stop bleeding. He did keep a number of police officers, firefighters and teachers employed.
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Great stuff going on in the Public Sector, but I'm not even sure if that impacts the economy. And what about the Private Sector? what has the President done for that area?
 
Dooble said:
Great stuff going on in the Public Sector, but I'm not even sure if that impacts the economy. And what about the Private Sector? what has the President done for that area?
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Keeping anyone working certainly helps them as there is more money to spend. However, on a quick search I did find this:

The U.S. auto industry is roaring back, adding new auto jobs across the country. While we’re on the right track, there’s still more to do.

But it’s important to note the progress we’ve made and how the policies President Obama is putting in place are helping strengthen our economy.

Some key economic measures of where we stand today:

• 31 straight months of private sector job growth.

• Highest private sector employment since 2008.

• Best manufacturing job gains since the mid-1990s.

• Highest manufacturing output in four years.

• Consumer confidence at highest level in five years.

• Lowest foreclosure rate in five years.

• Home prices seeing strongest growth since late 2006.

• Household net worth at highest since 2008.

Obama revitalized economy, added private sector growth - GulfCoastNewsToday.com: News

Obama’s plan is a little more detailed but still incomplete, Hudak said. The president is focused more on investment. He wants to invest in specific areas such as education and infrastructure.

Increased investment in infrastructure definitely would create jobs, Hudak said. Whether they will be lasting jobs is unclear. Improving infrastructure also would help commerce, he said, explaining that if our roads and airports were in better shape, for example, it would cost less to transport goods.

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Obama would pay for some of his proposals by raising taxes on higher income people. The idea of using the money the U.S. saves by ending the wars, however, doesn’t pan out mathematically because those conflicts added significantly to the national debt. “It’s not necessarily free money. It’s just less money that we’re borrowing.”

http://www.columbiamissourian.com/a/155118/obama-and-romney-on-jobs/
 
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