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How many things has Obama done that has made the economy better?

How many things has Obama done that has made the economy better?

  • Zero

    Votes: 6 37.5%

  • One

    Votes: 1 6.3%

  • Two

    Votes: 1 6.3%

  • Three or more

    Votes: 8 50.0%
  • Total voters
    16
marsden

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How many things has Obama done that has made the economy better?

Rush says he hasn't done one thing. But hey, he might be wrong. So, tell us how many you think there are and then provide a link to prove it and shut Rush up.
 
He helped stop bleeding. He did keep a number of police officers, firefighters and teachers employed.
 
Boo Radley said:
He helped stop bleeding. He did keep a number of police officers, firefighters and teachers employed.
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which meant more private money was taken and given to his supporters and their unions which in turn meant more contributions to his campaign. In other words, he distributed my and other net tax payers' wealth to his own campaign
 
TurtleDude said:
which meant more private money was taken and given to his supporters and their unions which in turn meant more contributions to his campaign. In other words, he distributed my and other net tax payers' wealth to his own campaign
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Yeah, workers run this country. Good luck making that case.
 
Boo Radley said:
He helped stop bleeding. He did keep a number of police officers, firefighters and teachers employed.
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Thanks for that ringing endorsement.
:mrgreen:
 
He also helped keep the auto industry alive. Not single handledly, and Ford does deserve it's own praise. But he helped.
 
Boo Radley said:
Yeah, workers run this country. Good luck making that case.
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It's funny that your objection doesn't challenge the veracity of his statement but the success you think he'd have in making the argument stick.
 
Boo Radley said:
Yeah, workers run this country. Good luck making that case.
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I love the appeal to mediocrity and the masses. which is why the founders limited the power of the masses so as to prevent mediocrity.
 
I give him credit for the credit card reforms not that it or anything else other than the abandonment of the boys of Benghazi were really his ideas.
 
marsden said:
It's funny that your objection doesn't challenge the veracity of his statement but the success you think he'd have in making the argument stick.
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I think in sarcasim there is the implication that he's wrong. It's kind of his anti worker position, that workers should not ban together and work in their interests. Business owners and companies are people, who can spend mony, but only if they support the interests of owners, and politicians can only be beholden to wealthy folk. In any case, keeping workers working benefits the country as well as the economy. Do you think I'm wrong about that?
 
Two has my vote.
Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009
And increased unemployment insurance benefits
 
marsden said:
It's funny that your objection doesn't challenge the veracity of his statement but the success you think he'd have in making the argument stick.
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there was another poster (I haven't seen him lately) who, when beaten, would always flee an argument with
"wait until november". ONe of the reasons why this country is in decline is that appealing to mediocrity is a winning strategy for many Democrats and some Republicans. and when you win by appealing to the mediocre you, when you have power-seek to increase the number of the mediocre. Such actions win elections while diluting the greatness of this nation
 
TurtleDude said:
I love the appeal to mediocrity and the masses. which is why the founders limited the power of the masses so as to prevent mediocrity.
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No one has made such an appeal. Is this where you start fighting a strawman?
 
Boo Radley said:
No one has made such an appeal. Is this where you start fighting a strawman?
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I deny your claim. the obama campaign is an appeal to the mediocre.
 
TurtleDude said:
I deny your claim. the obama campaign is an appeal to the mediocre.
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Agian, no one made such an appeal, so you are battling a strawman and not any claim I've made. Try again.
 
But don’t ask Washington to give shareholders and bondholders a free pass — they bet on management and they lost.

The American auto industry is vital to our national interest as an employer and as a hub for manufacturing. A managed bankruptcy may be the only path to the fundamental restructuring the industry needs. It would permit the companies to shed excess labor, pension and real estate costs. The federal government should provide guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing and assure car buyers that their warranties are not at risk.

In a managed bankruptcy, the federal government would propel newly competitive and viable automakers, rather than seal their fate with a bailout check.

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Just to remind you of the REAL truth and not the Obama truth, which are often two different things, I posted the Romney NYT article that Obama always lies about when talking about how Romney suggested a managed bankruptcy and government assistance for the auto industry.

Boo Radley said:
He also helped keep the auto industry alive. Not single handledly, and Ford does deserve it's own praise. But he helped.
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Boo Radley said:
Agian, no one made such an appeal, so you are battling a strawman and not any claim I've made. Try again.
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I never said you said that-I said the Obama campaign appeals to mediocrity-and he does
 
Boo Radley said:
He helped stop bleeding. He did keep a number of police officers, firefighters and teachers employed.
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indeed, obama has stopped the bush decline, but he has yet to put the recovery on a stable positive footing.
 
marsden said:
Just to remind you of the REAL truth and not the Obama truth, which are often two different things, I posted the Romney NYT article that Obama always lies about when talking about how Romney suggested a managed bankruptcy and government assistance for the auto industry.
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one of the worst lies from Obunny was the spliced 60 Minutes interview of Romney when "yes that is fair" is applied to the false claim that people making 50K a year might be paying a higher effective income tax rate than Romney does on investment income
 
roflpublican said:
indeed, obama has stopped the bush decline, but he has yet to put the recovery on a stable positive footing.
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benign neglect probably would have done more and would not have blown another 6 trillion dollars
 
TurtleDude said:
there was another poster (I haven't seen him lately) who, when beaten, would always flee an argument with
"wait until november". ONe of the reasons why this country is in decline is that appealing to mediocrity is a winning strategy for many Democrats and some Republicans. and when you win by appealing to the mediocre you, when you have power-seek to increase the number of the mediocre. Such actions win elections while diluting the greatness of this nation
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I couldn't agree more!
 
TurtleDude said:
benign neglect probably would have done more and would not have blown another 6 trillion dollars
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i doubt it, we tried that with hoover, and the EU is trying it now. doesnt seem to be work now any more than it did then =/
 
roflpublican said:
i doubt it, we tried that with hoover, and the EU is trying it now. doesnt seem to be work now any more than it did then =/
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Hoover really isn't applicable and Hoover's response was to jack up taxes as well
 
TurtleDude said:
Hoover really isn't applicable and Hoover's response was to jack up taxes as well
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by less than 2%, it was a slight rise in corporation tax. his primary response was to sit on his hands and let the economy slide into oblivion, like our modern economy was doing before 2009: gdp_large.jpg

actually, if you assume it took hoover 1929-1933 to wreck the economy, and roosevelt 1933-1945 to repair it, then it till take obama 24 years to repair bush's 8 years. not exactly a comforting thought, especially when obama himself is a far cry from an FDR level president.
 
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