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Should it be okay for other nations to send drones into your country to kill or spy?

Should it be okay for other nations to send drones into your country to kill or spy

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Would you be okay with other nations sending drones into your country to kill or spy on people? I decided to come up with this poll question because I have been thinking for awhile about how our government sends drones into Pakistan to kill people that if I was the citizens of that country the Pakistani politicians who gave the okay for such a thing would be getting lynched and publicly executed for allowing such a breach of sovereignty for the civilian causalities those drone strike sometimes cause.


Should it be okay for other nations to send drones into your country to kill and or spy on people?

Yes
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I do not know
 
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jamesrage said:
Would you be okay with other nations sending drones into your country to kill or spy on people? I decided to come up with this poll question because I have been thinking about how our government sends drones into Pakistan to kill people that if I was the citizens of that country the Pakistani politicians who gave the okay for such a thing would be getting lynched and publicly executed.


Should it be okay for other nations to send drones into your country to kill and or spy on people?

Yes
No
I do not know
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No. If you're a citizen of a country, you should only be able to be prosecuted/executed by that country's government. If the criminals aren't citizens of that country, they should be extradited, not dealt with there.
 
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No, but it's okay for us because we are american :2razz:
 
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jamesrage said:
Would you be okay with other nations sending drones into your country to kill or spy on people? I decided to come up with this poll question because I have been thinking for awhile about how our government sends drones into Pakistan to kill people that if I was the citizens of that country the Pakistani politicians who gave the okay for such a thing would be getting lynched and publicly executed for allowing such a breach of sovereignty for the civilian causalities those drone strike sometimes cause.


Should it be okay for other nations to send drones into your country to kill and or spy on people?

Yes
No
I do not know
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The Cold War was about the development and escalation of nuclear armaments.

The Global War will be about the development and escalation of drone weapons.
 
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However, a big factor is America can and they can't. I also thnk America enjoys a unique position in the world that makes it okay for us. Sorry if that sounds arrogant, just being honest.

Ps. I think it's okay for China and Japan to send drones into North Korea if they had them. I think it's okay for Nigeria, Kenya or South Africa to send drones into other African countries experiencing instability or conflict.
 
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jamesrage said:
Would you be okay with other nations sending drones into your country to kill or spy on people? I decided to come up with this poll question because I have been thinking for awhile about how our government sends drones into Pakistan to kill people that if I was the citizens of that country the Pakistani politicians who gave the okay for such a thing would be getting lynched and publicly executed for allowing such a breach of sovereignty for the civilian causalities those drone strike sometimes cause.


Should it be okay for other nations to send drones into your country to kill and or spy on people?

Yes
No
I do not know
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I understand the concern for the breach of the sovereignty of a foreign state and theoretically no, a state should not be allowed to conduct covert operations on foreign soil. But in some ways, this breach of sovereignty is justified.

On a separate note, order at home can be achieved through executive grip and most importantly, the implementation of a police force. Despite having "judges" and "legislators", there is no real "police force" in the international order to carry out these laws.
 
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I also don't think that my country should be able to fly drones overhead to spy on my brethren.
 
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Unless the government of the foreign country authorizes our use of drones in their airspace to attack targets within their borders then we shouldn't (and nobody should) be doing it. Nor should we utilize drone strikes to kill American citizens without the benefit of trial, charges, or convictions....regardless of where they are or what we "know" they've done....unless engaged in an active action of war (i.e. the asshole has a weapon and is assaulting U.S. troops or allies during a war).

And, as Mickey said, I don't support the use of surveillance drones on U.S. soil by U.S. officials.
 
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sawyerloggingon said:
A country that harbors terrorist that attack another country lose their rights, bombs away.
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Of course, any country can say that about any other country. And it could be done against our country, someone would do it. And largely use the same rationale.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Of course, any country can say that about any other country. And it could be done against our country, someone would do it. And largely use the same rationale.
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Who are the terrorist we harbor?
 
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jamesrage said:
Would you be okay with other nations sending drones into your country to kill or spy on people? I decided to come up with this poll question because I have been thinking for awhile about how our government sends drones into Pakistan to kill people that if I was the citizens of that country the Pakistani politicians who gave the okay for such a thing would be getting lynched and publicly executed for allowing such a breach of sovereignty for the civilian causalities those drone strike sometimes cause.


Should it be okay for other nations to send drones into your country to kill and or spy on people?

Yes
No
I do not know
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I'd be pissed but on the other hand if my own country can't handle its own business, and that failure is affecting the livelihoods or security of those of my neighbors or other nations, then someone has to step in.
 
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sawyerloggingon said:
Who are the terrorist we harbor?
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We have home grown terrorist. Being in a country has been enough for us to call it harboring.
 
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Boo Radley said:
We have home grown terrorist. Being in a country has been enough for us to call it harboring.
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WE arrest any and all terrorist here as soon as we identify them, nice try but no cigar for you my friend.
 
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sawyerloggingon said:
WE arrest any and all terrorist here as soon as we identify them, nice try but no cigar for you my friend.
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Didn't say we didn't. Try reading the entire statement.

Oh, as I thought about it, the south had many a klan member who terrorized that law enforcement turn a blind eye to.
 
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Drone attacks within the borders of Pakistan are done with the approval of the government, primarily because we pay massive bribes (also known as foreign "aid"). The Sudan however gets its sovereignty violated on a regular basis with air strikes because the nation lacks an air force capable of responding.

I'm not overly big on moral equivalency in foreign relations, but rather looking at the overall consequences of a given policy. The populace of countries in which drone strikes occur are obviously outraged watching their people get blown up by foreign invaders, they get even more pissed when their corrupt governments allows it. U.S. policy of performing follow up strikes that kill innocent rescuers significantly exacerbates the local hostility.

Pakistan is country with a nuclear arsenal and a government barely able to maintain control over the nation. There is a real danger that the government will fall and during the chaos nuclear weapons will fall into the wrong hands. It is insanity to continue destabilizing a nuclear power in return for continuing failed policies for our petty objectives with regards to Afghanistan and "terrorism".
 
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**** no. This it violates the sovereignty of other nations, destroys human rights. This is why we should end these attacks.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Of course, any country can say that about any other country. And it could be done against our country, someone would do it. And largely use the same rationale.
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True. We technically "harbor" The Bloods, The Crips and The KKK. I support US drones but not for that reason.
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
**** no. This it violates the sovereignty of other nations, destroys human rights. This is why we should end these attacks.
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Well if that's the case, in the process of respecting the "rights" or sovereignty of a state, you are inevitably letting the rights of millions of innocent people be thrown to the wayside. Since the state in question here is, I assume, Pakistan which obviously is an extremely incompetent and unstable government, cannot properly protect their own people in certain areas of the country, effectively letting Pakistani's fall under the rule of Islamist extremists who revert to fundamentalist Sharia law. Where are those human rights you speak of than?

Oh did I mention that this unstable government of Pakistan, who cannot even protect their own land and people also has nuclear warheads that can potentially fall into the wrong hands.

But I guess under your rational, what business do we have in trying to stop terrorists who constantly chant "death to America, death to Israel" from securing nuclear warheads from an unstable government.
 
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jamesrage said:
Would you be okay with other nations sending drones into your country to kill or spy on people? I decided to come up with this poll question because I have been thinking for awhile about how our government sends drones into Pakistan to kill people that if I was the citizens of that country the Pakistani politicians who gave the okay for such a thing would be getting lynched and publicly executed for allowing such a breach of sovereignty for the civilian causalities those drone strike sometimes cause.

Should it be okay for other nations to send drones into your country to kill and or spy on people?

Yes
No
I do not know
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I voted "No" of course. He who has the biggest stick writes the rules.
 
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samsmart said:
The Cold War was about the development and escalation of nuclear armaments.

The Global War will be about the development and escalation of drone weapons.
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I disagree the next "big one" will be about dimishing resources and lack of usable space.
 
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wolfman24 said:
I disagree the next "big one" will be about dimishing resources and lack of usable space.
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I didn't mean the cause of the war but rather the primary armaments used in the conflict.
 
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When a country fails to remove/prosecute/mitigate terrorists or guerillas within its' borders and allows or perhaps encourages or otherwise supports the activities of these terrorists outside its borders, that country is begging for a drone attack. Other than that, I think they should be illegal because they are a violation of sovereign airspace. I think if drones fly over my airspace, it is open season year round.
 
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This thread is apparently aimed at a country doing that to us or so it seems.

In my view there are two issues;

Drone Bombing: If we were at war (constitutional) with another country, then drones are legal and will be used.
If we are not a war with another country then what we are doing is illegal and should be viewed by the other country as an act of war. The same would be true if another country would be doing this to us.

Drone Spying; Although there are legal issues here we and other countries have been doing stuff like this for years and will continue as far into the future as I can see. right or wrong.
 
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samsmart said:
I didn't mean the cause of the war but rather the primary armaments used in the conflict.
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Ok Yeah the trend seems to be for stealth based unmanned weapons and survellience. This would go along with a smaller more mobile armed forces
 
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