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Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

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Objective-J said:
LOL @ Gloria thats funny

but unless laws were broken theres no real scandal, even if there was some shadiness or some cover up will it win or lose the election? I seriously doubt it.

People that are going to vote for Obama will stil vote for him unless laws were broken, people that were going to vote for mitt still do either way.
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While that is true, never underestimate the wholesale destruction that Gloria Allred can unleash upon her targets, she's like a fashionable Godzilla. When Allred makes threats, pay attention.
 
obvious Child said:
While that is true, never underestimate the wholesale destruction that Gloria Allred can unleash upon her targets, she's like a fashionable Godzilla. When Allred makes threats, pay attention.
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fashionable Godzilla? lol niiiiiiiiiiiiice

I like when she does cameos in movies
 
Donahue said:
It's definitely worse than Watergate but that isn't saying too much.

The press has been pretty upfront in ignoring anything negative about Pres. Obama, including this incident, so I don't really see where this will make much of a difference. Todd Akin, who no one had ever heard of until this summer, has been given far more attention for a rambling comment he retracted almost immediately. I think that says it all.
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We need to protest the President out of office by rising up. I do not know how it can be done. Believe it or not there will be a big bird rally to save him in DC this week yet we allow these lies to us and the world to go unanswered.
 
David Watson said:
He obviously didn't orchestrate the attacks.

However, he knowingly let American's die when he could have given the order to save them.

That's treason.
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And then he lied about it.
 
obvious Child said:
How the hell is this worse then Watergate?

How is this worse then a President who orchestrated numerous illegal acts at the same time knowing they are illegal acts and then attempted to cover them up less worse then an incident where terrorists managed to kill an ambassador and his staff?
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Now try and concentrate like a laser beam my left wing friend and I will explain it to you.....No one died in Watergate........4 people did here......This could have been avoided and these people saved. but because Obama worried about the political impact and the election nothing was done to save these people. Lies and a cover up on this was going on 10 days after the incident until Obama got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
 
Donahue said:
It's definitely worse than Watergate but that isn't saying too much.

The press has been pretty upfront in ignoring anything negative about Pres. Obama, including this incident, so I don't really see where this will make much of a difference. Todd Akin, who no one had ever heard of until this summer, has been given far more attention for a rambling comment he retracted almost immediately. I think that says it all.
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No personal responsibility, it's always someone else who is at fault. The media, the polls, reality. But never the mistaken partisan colored classes some look through.
 
Navy Pride said:
Now try and concentrate like a laser beam my left wing friend and I will explain it to you.....No one died in Watergate........4 people did here......This could have been avoided and these people saved. but because Obama worried about the political impact and the election nothing was done to save these people. Lies and a cover up on this was going on 10 days after the incident until Obama got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
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By that measure, 9/11 is worse then Watergate. By that measure, any incident were lives were lost is worse then Watergate.

In terms of actual scandal in the context of Watergate, where the context is illegal actions by a President, this isn't even on the radar. Nothing the Administration has done has been illegal.

Besides, it's obvious you are using this as a political club. 9/11 in terms of ignoring the information and then letting the Saudi family go without question is significantly worse. And if we really want to escalate, the "case' for Iraq is wholesale treason as the information Bush relied upon was flagged by the Germans and Cezcks as unreliable and to which we now know was a complete fabrication as admitted by Curveball himself. You have never criticized Bush for either. Never on Whistlestopper.
 
obvious Child said:
By that measure, 9/11 is worse then Watergate. By that measure, any incident were lives were lost is worse then Watergate.

In terms of actual scandal in the context of Watergate, where the context is illegal actions by a President, this isn't even on the radar. Nothing the Administration has done has been illegal.

Besides, it's obvious you are using this as a political club. 9/11 in terms of ignoring the information and then letting the Saudi family go without question is significantly worse.
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So it is ok to sit back and watch Americans die, just so long as you don't steal a couple pieces of paper?
 
No. It wont for obvious reasons.
 
Navy Pride said:
What do you think. I personally believe it is worse then the Watergate scandal.........At least no one was murdered.
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I don't think so. I think the only ones who see a scandal here are the right wing hacks. But I've been wrong overestimating the intelligence of the public before so we'll just have to see.
 
I'm not sure, I think much of the media is avoiding that and the Romney campaign has not attacked Obama's failure on this as much as they should be.
 
Fruityfact said:
Quit with the false outrage...
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What false outrage? You think I'm faking this?! I honestly believe that if the reports are accurate, this president should be tried and executed! You don't leave Americans to die just because. You don't tell Marines to "stand down" when they can help. And you sure as hell don't tell the American public and the world that it was a "spontaneous protest" when you watched the live video feed of an organized militia execute your ambassador. And you really don't have a guy arrested in the US that had absolutely nothing to do with it! This goes way above what any President has done. This is completely unprecedented and I can't believe that some would sit around and just let it be!

I want you to think about this. The heroes that died serving their country in Benghazi would have never had the true story told if this administration had gotten their way. They would have been killed by "protesters" that reacted to a YouTube video and we would have never known their true heroism. They disobeyed orders to save American lives and succeeded. They gave their lives despite the stupidity of our government. They most certainly would have faced significant punishment for their actions, but their selfless sense of duty and spot on intuition with regards to right and wrong saved many of the Americans based in Benghazi.

But, hey, we should not be outraged, there was nothing that could be done? Right?

Bite me.

Even if there was nothing that could have been done (and I doubt that's the case, the reports just don't reflect that), the cover up was not needed. That's what makes me believe there was a bad call. There was someone, in this administration, that did the wrong thing. Other wise, why cover it up? If there was nothing to be done then the ambassador was a victim of terrorism. He would have been the poster boy for a new cry for the war on terror. It could have propelled the President to new heights as he called for renewed efforts. Instead, it was covered up in hopes the truth wouldn't come out until after the election. An american's rights were violated for political gain and the true valor of two of America's finest was shoved under the rug like dirt.
 
ksu_aviator said:
So it is ok to sit back and watch Americans die, just so long as you don't steal a couple pieces of paper?
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Did I say that what happened in Benghazi was okay? Or are you just looking for a cheap point to score by fabricating a poorly conceived argument?

Tell me how Benghazi is worse then an incident where the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES openly conspired to violate several major US laws and then attempted to cover up the fact that he knowingly committed crimes. Tell me how an incident where the POTUS engaged in an illegal conspiracy is not as bad. What Nixon did perverted and corrupted the very nature of our democracy and government. That is a bigger threat to America then Benghazi.
 
obvious Child said:
You should probably look up who Gloria Allred is first before making a comment like that.
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Trust me I know who she is a lawyer and a publicitty seeking old bag who butts into everyones business for monetary gain.
 
Navy Pride said:
Trust me I know who she is a lawyer and a publicitty seeking old bag who butts into everyones business for monetary gain.
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None of which address my point about her capacity to call down wholesale destruction upon her targets. If you know who Gloria Allred is, you should know what kind of damage she can do. To discount her is to folly. The fact you dislike her is irrelevant to her capacities to rain fiery PR death.
 
Cardinal said:
I don't think so. I think the only ones who see a scandal here are the right wing hacks. But I've been wrong overestimating the intelligence of the public before so we'll just have to see.
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I can't believe that anyone could defend Obama in this situation.....I guess to people like you partisan politics is more important then lives of 4 brave Americans.
 
Navy Pride said:
I can't believe that anyone could defend Obama in this situation.....I guess to people like you partisan politics is more important then lives of 4 brave Americans.
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You think Obama "just watched them die." Turn that around and imagine someone saying the same thing about Bush and think about how that sounds.

Anyway, whatever, you'll move on to the next big thing tomorrow.
 
obvious Child said:
None of which address my point about her capacity to call down wholesale destruction upon her targets. If you know who Gloria Allred is, you should know what kind of damage she can do. To discount her is to folly. The fact you dislike her is irrelevant to her capacities to rain fiery PR death.
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I doubt if to many people take her seriously anymore.
 
Cardinal said:
You think Obama "just watched them die." Turn that around and imagine someone saying the same thing about Bush and think about how that sounds.

Anyway, whatever, you'll move on to the next big thing tomorrow.
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I think for political reasons he did nothing to save them and then worse of all he tried to cover it up for 2 weeks.
 
Navy Pride said:
I think for political reasons he did nothing to save them and then worse of all he tried to cover it up for 2 weeks.
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And why do you think that?
 
Navy Pride said:
I think for political reasons he did nothing to save them and then worse of all he tried to cover it up for 2 weeks.
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NP with his crazy conspiracy theories again. First is was the birther issue....then it was the "Obama's a muslim" BS.....not it is this. Turn off your right-wing radio NP and save us all the propoganda.
 
Navy Pride said:
I think for political reasons he did nothing to save them and then worse of all he tried to cover it up for 2 weeks.
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...Which is worse......... that he or his Admin. stood by and did nothing ,or tried to cover up the fact of 4 Americans death with excuses and lies to the American people for political gain' ,

Who is to blame, the Administration and their lies to cover-up what actually happened, or the Indifferent attitude of the MS media in .... NOT reporting the facts.

Americans can understand and forgive mistakes, they can not and should not understand or forgive Blatant lies and cover ups by Top salaried leaders of America for Political gain', regardless of political party.
 
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