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Who Is The Crappiest American?

Which Type Of American Voter Do You Hate The Most?

  • The informed guy who is voting against my candidate.

    Votes: 2 3.1%

  • The single issue voter.

    Votes: 18 27.7%

  • The uninformed guy who is voting against my candidate.

    Votes: 30 46.2%

  • The guy who doesn't vote.

    Votes: 15 23.1%
  • Total voters
    65
Mickey Shane said:
There's a puff out the chest moment that lasts while you're walking back to the car. Then a sticker for your coffee cup that will last a day or two.

Then there's that four year period of being in the electoral college's majority. Walkin' the walk.
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Well at least you're honest about it.
The illusion of control does feel good.

We have difference of opinion I guess, but I completely respect yours.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Well at least you're honest about it.
The illusion of control does feel good.

We have difference of opinion I guess, but I completely respect yours.
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Back at you Harry.

I couldn't help but think that Gov. Romney and Pres. Obama were competing for my vote when they were rapping in the Superbowl of Presidential Debates last night. For a minute I felt like Steven Tyler. All of that controlling power at my fingertips was a rush.


I'm OK now.:)
 
Peter Grimm said:
Are you really saying that Obama's 96% support by black voters in 2008 had nothing to do with the fact that he was to become the first black president?
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No, I'm saying that if Obama had been a Goldwater-esque candidate on the GOP ticket, that black voter support would never have materialized.
 
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Harry Guerrilla said:
Kinda highlights my reasoning behind why most people vote.
The best and most often reason for people voting, is because it makes them feel good.

The worst and least realistic reason, is to "fix" things.

Why go some where, to punch of a bunch of buttons or fill in ovals to feel good, when you can do it in the comfort of your own home?
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IDC if someone absentee ballots votes, as long as they do vote. I actually absentee ballot myself, and it's amazing how much more secure I feel in my choices, when I can double-check on last time using google before I fill it in.
 
Pinkie said:
Who do you resent the most?
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None of the above. The uninformed voter, period. Doesn't matter who they're voting for, as long as they actually know and understand the candidate's policies. If they disagree with me, they disagree, it happens. A person is voting just to "rock the vote", or whatever the hell it is that kids do these days, they should just stay home. Uninformed voters are the biggest problem in this country, and I would think a competency test should be the minimum requirement to vote, but corrupt assholes with no honor will abuse that system for sure.
 
The first choice doesn't exist.

There is no such thing as an informed voter that is voting against my candidate of choice.
 
The single issue voter.

If someone decides to vote for a candidate because of just one issue (like gay marriage... or the fact that obama's black)
 
Rainman05 said:
The single issue voter.

If someone decides to vote for a candidate because of just one issue (like gay marriage... or the fact that obama's black)
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Seems as if I am all alone in my condemnation of the nonvoter -- I don't get this.

When did apathy become acceptable behavior for our fellow citizens?

 
Can I pick more than one?
 
the ones whom jay leno makes fun of everyday :mrgreen:
 
I don't think any of those choices would make someone the "crappiest" American. I would consider criminals, you know like murderers and stuff, to be the "crappiest Americans." I mean, come on, there are SO MANY worse things someone could do besides not vote or to vote strictly upon party lines.

Besides, if someone does not like any of the candidates, how can they just cast a vote and stay true to themselves. Are they expected to just vote for whoever just for the sake of voting even if they believe that none of the candidates are good for the country?

I think that not voting could be seen as a kind of protest of sorts against the crappiest candidates. Lol!
 
As I am not American, I answer the question as I see it in Germany:

The only people I really resent are extremists, such as neo-Nazis and the like, who vote for blatantly anti-constitutional parties (which fortunately aren't that many -- the neo-Nazi NPD never made more than 1.6% of the votes in national elections in the past decades).

The next who bother me are the ideologues, who simply vote for their party because of its ideological leaning, and demand policies to be put through which are ideologically sound, no matter how unfeasible they are and no matter how harmful they turn out to be in reality.

Probably the most ideological parties with the most ideological voters in Germany are the socialist Left Party and the pro-market libertarian Free Democrats (FDP). The former supports big government and government spending no matter what, and the latter supports more free market and small government, no matter what -- all based on ideology, regardless of the question how beneficial these policies turn out in reality. When they see a certain policy either strangles the economy or results in a considerable increase of poverty and social injustice, they shrug it off: "But my ideology says people are better off now." A good, informed voter should be capable of accepting a supported policy has failed when they see evidence, and they should be capable of seeing the big picture.

I don't see a problem with people who make a conscious decision to either not vote at all, or vote for a small party without real chances, when they are dissatisfied with the options of larger parties they are presented.

As for uninformed voters, I'm not sure who qualifies ... some of us are more informed than others, but in the end, none of us really knows everything that's going on behind closed doors. And on quite a few issues, even experts are divided -- think about the very complex mechanisms in the economy. So as long as uninformed voters don't fall into the above mentioned categories of "blind ideologues" or "extremists", I think they are fine.
 
The uniformed and easily manipulated voter regardless of who they vote for should be a choice. Although that is the vast majority of American voters and they are ruining our country and our political system.
 
Pinkie said:
Seems as if I am all alone in my condemnation of the nonvoter -- I don't get this.

When did apathy become acceptable behavior for our fellow citizens?
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I can assure you, you're not alone. I too condemn those who shirk their electoral responsibilities. But I believe that those responsibilities come with more than just going in a booth and voting... but with being informed and making your mind up based on experience and hearing a multitude of view points in the time prior to the election day. I do not condemn those who have no interest in the electoral process of debating and discussions and and then don't go to vote. I do condemn those who do follow the public discussions and then don't go and vote. And I also condemn the reasons as to why people choose not to follow notions of public interest.

So there are a great deal of nuances in that regard.

However, the crappiest american, and in fact, the crappiest voter, regardless of what republic he is in, is the single issue voter. The one who cares only about one thing, and the candidate who promises him that, he will get his vote. The reason why I consider this breed of voter to be the crappiest is because he is often focused on issues that should occupy, at best, a secondary or tertiary role in the public life of a country... and usually has a very straightforward approach to it. Notions like the economy and how it should recover, corruption, laws that were approved and their effects and other such complex issues that usually have more than 1 side to them are alien to the single issue voter. He instead sees issues like marijuana (not the war on drugs, just a small, simple part of it), gay marriage, guns (not the entire issue about guns, but just his own little preferences) and other such notions as the key issues of the day and makes up his mind according to that.

he is the voter who is most easily swayed by the politicians who have to smile and be convincing when they promise something and is one of the many reasons why democracy is going down the drain. He is the crappiest voter.
 
Rainman05 said:
I can assure you, you're not alone. I too condemn those who shirk their electoral responsibilities. But I believe that those responsibilities come with more than just going in a booth and voting... but with being informed and making your mind up based on experience and hearing a multitude of view points in the time prior to the election day. I do not condemn those who have no interest in the electoral process of debating and discussions and and then don't go to vote. I do condemn those who do follow the public discussions and then don't go and vote. And I also condemn the reasons as to why people choose not to follow notions of public interest.

So there are a great deal of nuances in that regard.

However, the crappiest american, and in fact, the crappiest voter, regardless of what republic he is in, is the single issue voter. The one who cares only about one thing, and the candidate who promises him that, he will get his vote. The reason why I consider this breed of voter to be the crappiest is because he is often focused on issues that should occupy, at best, a secondary or tertiary role in the public life of a country... and usually has a very straightforward approach to it. Notions like the economy and how it should recover, corruption, laws that were approved and their effects and other such complex issues that usually have more than 1 side to them are alien to the single issue voter. He instead sees issues like marijuana (not the war on drugs, just a small, simple part of it), gay marriage, guns (not the entire issue about guns, but just his own little preferences) and other such notions as the key issues of the day and makes up his mind according to that.

he is the voter who is most easily swayed by the politicians who have to smile and be convincing when they promise something and is one of the many reasons why democracy is going down the drain. He is the crappiest voter.
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I don't agree at all -- I lived through the Voting Rights Act, the end of apartheid, etc. and I can't wrap my brain around anyone who has a right to vote and doesn't use it.

Nothing says you have to vote every race; if you honestly feel ill-equipped to chose a president, go vote on your school levy, your mayor, etc.
 
muciti said:
The uniformed and easily manipulated voter regardless of who they vote for should be a choice. Although that is the vast majority of American voters and they are ruining our country and our political system.
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No, IMO people are far better informed and plugged in than they have ever been. I know it's chic to trash the knowledge of the American voter, but I see these people as far superior to voters of the 1960's and 1970's, at least as regards some basic knowledge of what the issues are.
 
Why would the guy who doesn't vote be a crappy American when they already know and understand that their vote doesn't matter?

My take on the crappiest American wasn't represented in the poll choices.

The crappiest American is the one who puts party first, country second. The partisans. The people who disregard all logic and reason because they have arbitrarily decided that their partisan ideology is correct.

They aren't stupid by nature, they are stupid by choice. That's unforgivable.
 
Other:

The people who say people are throwing their vote away by voting third party when in reality it is those who vote against their beliefs and principles that throw their vote away.
 
Pinkie said:
No, IMO people are far better informed and plugged in than they have ever been. I know it's chic to trash the knowledge of the American voter, but I see these people as far superior to voters of the 1960's and 1970's, at least as regards some basic knowledge of what the issues are.
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No they arent. The majority of Americans are clueless when it comes to who they are voting for and why. The majority think they know something and that doesnt mean they do. They believe what their candidate tells them and have so many misconceptions and falsehoods it makes our voting process a joke.
 
muciti said:
No they arent. The majority of Americans are clueless when it comes to who they are voting for and why. The majority think they know something and that doesnt mean they do. They believe what their candidate tells them and have so many misconceptions and falsehoods it makes our voting process a joke.
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HTH old are you, muciti? I was there. In 1960, when JFK ran against Nixon, the only topics of convo were whether electing Kennedy would mean the Vatican was running the US and how much Nixon sweated.

Have you heard even a peep about Romney's peculiar religious beliefs? No?

Me neither.

 
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