Krystov
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- Libertarian - Right
You failed to understand my argument. My point was that they fall within that [sarcasm]blighted[/sarcasm] 47% because they have children. Devoid of that handicap, a significant fraction ("hundreds of thousands" out of "millions") would be capable of bettering themselves and obtaining jobs where they do pay income taxes. I should also mention that many would not be claiming the children tax credit, which would bump quite a few of them above the arbitrary threshold of your loathing.
You are ignoring the facts in this matter. The speed of light is c, the sun rises in the east, and people have sex. These are objective observations of reality that we must take into account when formulating our policies. No matter how much you wish it was otherwise or how loudly you harangue their folly, photons will not travel any faster than c and people will not stop having sex.
Your ultimate goal is to moderate what you perceive to be unwarranted expenditures. Will you fruitlessly persist with hysterics and impotently fume at this stalemate when liberals thwart your attempts to amputate these people from the budget? Wouldn't it be a more effective expenditure of your energies to acknowledge how little headway you will make in that direction and instead act to quell these unmitigated indiscretions? Stop reveling so much in your loathing and disdain for these people and instead do something that can undoubtedly do something to diminish the foundation of that hatred.
The sun sets and people get drunk, then drive into a tree. Should I be held responsible for their medical bill? Or their bail? It's the same concept here: take responsibility. It is not my responsibility to make people make the right decisions and I'm certainly not going to spend my time looking out for them. This nanny state ideology, the entitlement ideology is what breeds (no pun intended) people that feel I owe them something for their circumstances. You don't like it? DO something about it. Most people don't.
I don't see what the speed of light and observational truths come into play here. I'm aware that people will have sex no matter what, but those people should either be aware of the consequences, or take responsibility for them should they fail to be aware of them. It is not my fault and therefor not my responsibility to help prevent it or pay for the care afterwards.
"Amputate" them from the budget is EXACTLY what needs to happen. If they're cut off they'll shape up and make a difference, if not they'll be homeless and will have no one to blame but themselves.