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Would you support a Muslim for President?

Would you vote for a Muslim candidate for president?

  • Yes, I would still vote for the candidate.

    Votes: 30 44.8%

  • No, I would not vote for the candidate.

    Votes: 19 28.4%

  • Depends (on how less-qualified the other candidates are)

    Votes: 18 26.9%
  • Total voters
    67
  • Poll closed .
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Allow me to begin by saying that Obama's presidency has nothing to do with this poll. I am in no way implying that President Obama is in anyway personally affiliated with the religion of Islam. I was inspired to create it after posting in a couple other threads which directly tied religious doctrine with support for various presidential candidates, So, here goes:

Let's use our imaginations here........Suppose there were a presidential candidate who was obviously the most experienced and the most qualified among the field of candidates. Also, let's suppose that this particular candidate espoused much or most of the political, economic, social, and moral ideals which were important to you as a voter. Now let us suppose that this candidate just prior to election day, announced publicly that he/she was converting to Islam. Would you give this candidate your support? Please give your reasoning.

*Note: Obviously this poll is directed at non-Muslim voters although anyone is welcome to participate. :shrug:
 
FluffyNinja said:
Allow me to begin by saying that Obama's presidency has nothing to do with this poll. I am in no way implying that President Obama is in anyway personally affiliated with the religion of Islam. I was inspired to create it after posting in a couple other threads which directly tied religious doctrine with support for various presidential candidates, So, here goes:

Let's use our imaginations here........Suppose there were a presidential candidate who was obviously the most experienced and the most qualified among the field of candidates. Also, let's suppose that this particular candidate espoused much or most of the political, economic, social, and moral ideals which were important to you as a voter. Now let us suppose that this candidate just prior to election day, announced publicly that he/she was converting to Islam. Would you give this candidate your support? Please give your reasoning.

*Note: Obviously this poll is directed at non-Muslim voters although anyone is welcome to participate. :shrug:
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To be completely honest, an announcement such as that might make me feel a little apprehensive, but I guess as long as he wasn't a fundamentalist and wasn't planning on following Sharia law and knew enough not to involve his/her personal religious beliefs with his politics, I would like to think I could vote for him or her regardless.
 
Apparently a lot of people on the right would considering how much they keep bringing up Obama being a secret Muslim. These are the same people who then turn around and go "Well, but I wouldn't care if he was!" - Why the **** bring it up then? Same people who'll scream that Romney belonging to a creepy ass cult in Utah is not relevant.
 
FluffyNinja said:
Allow me to begin by saying that Obama's presidency has nothing to do with this poll. I am in no way implying that President Obama is in anyway personally affiliated with the religion of Islam. I was inspired to create it after posting in a couple other threads which directly tied religious doctrine with support for various presidential candidates, So, here goes:

Let's use our imaginations here........Suppose there were a presidential candidate who was obviously the most experienced and the most qualified among the field of candidates. Also, let's suppose that this particular candidate espoused much or most of the political, economic, social, and moral ideals which were important to you as a voter. Now let us suppose that this candidate just prior to election day, announced publicly that he/she was converting to Islam. Would you give this candidate your support? Please give your reasoning.

*Note: Obviously this poll is directed at non-Muslim voters although anyone is welcome to participate. :shrug:
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this is the weirdest post, question, poll Ive read in a long time and I dont know how to answer it.

the poll options are kind of weird based on the OP and then whats with the twist of last minute coming out about the religion?

theres no poll answer that fits.

1.) religion is absolutely meaningless to me if I feel the person is qualified and yes a Muslim could absolutely have my vote if they were qualified, which means you dont make your decisions for the country based on your religion.

2.) the issue is if the person comes out about their religion the day before election say that seems disingenuous or shady so again, the religion doesnt matter but the fact they they waited till one day before the election does. ANY religion they said they would would make me wonder about the PERSON and they might not get my vote depending on how and why they said they waited so long. If their reasoning still allows me to STILL believe they are the most qualified they still get my vote


BTW since im not a bigot I answered YES based on the Poll "question" and not the randomness in the OP about coming out the day before the election.
 
ChrisL said:
To be completely honest, an announcement such as that might make me feel a little apprehensive, but I guess as long as he wasn't a fundamentalist and wasn't planning on following Sharia law and knew enough not to involve his/her personal religious beliefs with his politics, I would like to think I could vote for him or her regardless.
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I have to at least give you some props for honesty. I think i'd definitely have to do some deep "soul searching" and even then, I honestly do not know if I could will myself to trust the guy enough to vote for him. Serving in the US military in a predominately Muslim nation for a long period of time has "hardened" me a bit toward the entire religion I suppose. :shrug:
 
A person being muslim would not be a deal breaker for me at all.

That is not to say I would not want to look into the candidates history, life and experiences closely. Maybe it is not fair as though I am not religious at all and I DO have religious tolerance. I JUST need to know that the person running for POTUS is not radical about their religious views or a fundamentalist be it Christian, Muslim, Jewish etc ...
 
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I wouldn't care about the religious aspect. . . I don't judge people based on their faith - I judge people based on their values and actions because that's where the ****'s really at.
 
Dion said:
A person being muslim would not be a deal breaker for me at all.

That is not to say I would not want to look into the candidates history, life and experiences closely. Maybe it is not fair as though I am not religious at all and I DO have religious tolerance. I JUST need to know that the person running for POTUS is not radical about their religious views or a fundamentalist be it Christian, Muslim, Jewish etch etc ...
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I see your point, and I suppose this is why I added the bit about "announcing last minute the intent to convert" because under those circumstances we may not be as inclined to believe the candidate is a radical fundamentalist. :shrug:
 
Yes, I would vote for a Muslim president if they were not fundamentalist in their religious views, had views which were similar to mine and were qualified to be president.

Is it possible that Muslim extremism has more to do with culture than with the religion itself?
 
zstep18 said:
Is it possible that Muslim extremism has more to do with culture than with the religion itself?
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I'm not sure, but one could make the argument that it was the religion which derived from the particular culture and not the converse.
 
FluffyNinja said:
I have to at least give you some props for honesty. I think i'd definitely have to do some deep "soul searching" and even then, I honestly do not know if I could will myself to trust the guy enough to vote for him. Serving in the US military in a predominately Muslim nation for a long period of time has "hardened" me a bit toward the entire religion I suppose. :shrug:
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I would have to do some soul-searching too. Not to mention, it is a politician, and do we really trust any of them?
 
Muslims could not govern in a Republican Democracy. Muslims believe that a man is not wise enough to govern and that men need to be governed by God. That is why the Muslim countries are all theocracies if democratic and Dictatorships if not.

This question would be as appropriate if the College of cardinals were voting for a Pope and the favorite announced he was a Muslim immediately before the voting. That single thing eliminates him from consideration.

Being a Muslim isn't just a funny scarf on your head.
 
FluffyNinja said:
I'm not sure, but one could make the argument that it was the religion which derived from the particular culture and not the converse.
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But, the Islamic culture that we see today hasn't been the Islamic culture that has existed since the beginning. There was a time where Islamic culture was vibrant, progressive, and forward thinking, with many advances in the arts and sciences. This was the Islamic Golden Age.
 
zstep18 said:
But, the Islamic culture that we see today hasn't been the Islamic culture that has existed since the beginning. There was a time where Islamic culture was vibrant, progressive, and forward thinking, with many advances in the arts and sciences. This was the Islamic Golden Age.
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Agreed. But it was still an Islamic culture ripe with fundamentalist views and marred by violent repercussions for outspoken infidels, was it not. Before you answer, I do also agree that Christianity in the Middle Ages would also fit this description. :shrug:
 
FluffyNinja said:
Agreed. But it was still an Islamic culture ripe with fundamentalist views and marred by violent repercussions for outspoken infidels, was it not. Before you answer, I do also agree that Christianity in the Middle Ages would also fit this description. :shrug:
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During this 'golden age', there was actually more tolerance of Christians and Jews than you would think. Bernard Lewis, who is a historian that specializes in Islamic history, says the following:

"Generally, the Jewish people were allowed to practice their religion and live according to the laws and scriptures of their community. Furthermore, the restrictions to which they were subject were social and symbolic rather than tangible and practical in character. That is to say, these regulations served to define the relationship between the two communities, and not to oppress the Jewish population"

Jews were generally treated better than they were under Christendom.
 
A while back I had a Mooslim friend who lived in Altus, OK, he called himself a pork eating Muslim.

I'd vote for a pork eating Muslim before I'd vote for a politician who never showed much interest in religion until they started running for President and now attends worship service for show.

I guess using a person's particular brand of Faith as a measure would be similar to using someone's German heritage against them running for President- they launch World Wars with regularity.
 
Sure, no problem.
 
Just as with any candidate, it would depend on his ideas, his character, and whether or not I believe he is trustworthy to be what he says, and what he appears to be. Religion doesn't matter to me when it comes to politics. There are far better measures of a good man.
 
I would if we were guaranteed that he / she would deal harshly with the Muslim Radicals.
 
This is a weird idea indeed. I would think a politician would wait until he is elected, then break the news he is converting to Islam. It would be political suicide to announce something like that prior to an election. Regardless of his religious background, he would have to have a majority of the same views I have to get my vote.
 
Yeah. I would be somewhat surprised, but yeah.
 
Mis-voted. I voted that yes, I would vote for a Muslim-- but there's no way in Hell I would vote for a man who announced his religious conversion on the day before an election.
 
Viktyr Gehrig said:
Mis-voted. I voted that yes, I would vote for a Muslim-- but there's no way in Hell I would vote for a man who announced his religious conversion on the day before an election.
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With that, I agree. I disdain politicians who lie about who and what they are, for the purpose of getting elected. If they aren't willing to lay all their cards on the table, there is no way I would trust them with any matters connected with governing the country.
 
If I thought he was the best person and he kept his religion out of my life then sure.
 
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