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You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

Does An American Have Freedom Of Science?

  • No; there are limits to religious freedom when that is contradicted by science

    Votes: 5 21.7%

  • Science cannot limit an American's freedom of religion

    Votes: 5 21.7%

  • Sometimes. Kids should be taught whatever their parents want, but not abused.

    Votes: 2 8.7%

  • I think my religion explains the world and I have no use for science

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • What I do in my private life is my own business, and I can raise my kids however I like

    Votes: 10 43.5%

  • No opinion or undecided

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Total voters
    23
Pinkie said:
Why not? You assume that cure will involve some dread treatment, like chemotherapy?
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I already have my "cure" for Cancer, should I ever get it. I watched 3 of my 4 grandparents and my father die of Cancer; sorry I'm not interested in going through any of that stuff, whether it's a cure or a funeral at the end.
 
Tigger said:
I already have my "cure" for Cancer, should I ever get it. I watched 3 of my 4 grandparents and my father die of Cancer; sorry I'm not interested in going through any of that stuff, whether it's a cure or a funeral at the end.
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How horrible.

I'm so sorry, Tigger.
 
Science in my humble uneducated opninion is necessary must be nutured and CONTROLLED. I believe the "mad scientist syndrome" can exist and do harm and I do believe that scientists will lie through their teeth to get their name published in some book somewhere and that has happened many times already.
Science is the way we learn and progress...but it has to be controlled and not let to its own designs totally.. Just recently all the lieing on both sides about global warming has so diluted the truth...no one really knows what the hell the truth is.
 
lpast said:
Science in my humble uneducated opninion is necessary must be nutured and CONTROLLED. I believe the "mad scientist syndrome" can exist and do harm and I do believe that scientists will lie through their teeth to get their name published in some book somewhere and that has happened many times already.
Science is the way we learn and progress...but it has to be controlled and not let to its own designs totally.. Just recently all the lieing on both sides about global warming has so diluted the truth...no one really knows what the hell the truth is.
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One word agreement: octomom.
 
Pinkie said:
How horrible. I'm so sorry, Tigger.
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It is what it is, Pinkie; but I do thank you for the condolances. The loss of my father in August of 2001 is what finally turned me away from the church completely; but that's a story for another time and place.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
The difference that comes into play is whether it actually lacks a solid base or people percieve that it lacks a solid base.
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Willful ignorance motivated by religous beliefs =/= some new scientific breakthrough.

Evolution is a fact; the "theory" refers to the fact that we still have gaps in the record, such as the "missing link" between apes and Homo Sapiens.
 
clownboy said:
Yes, right from the wiki. And again I believe the scientific method and the meaning of scientific theory should be taught along with the fact that evolution is a scientific theory.
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Nope. This is absolutely the wrong thing to do, if it is meant to convey to students that evolution is in doubt.
 
Pinkie said:
Nope. This is absolutely the wrong thing to do, if it is meant to convey to students that evolution is in doubt.
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Old argument...I dont think anyone really doubts evolution...where the doubt comes in is how the very first life form was created to begin the process of evolution, the very first lifeform could not have evolved.
 
Ikari said:
Yeah I know, what has science ever gotten us?
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The scientific method originated with the experimental validation that Eratosthenes carried out about 2200 years ago. He determined the circumference of the earth to within about +/- 5% accuracy, using a theory that the earth is spherical and that the curvature of the earth could be determined using shadows cast at different locations on the earth's surface

It was in the temple of science where the Priests developed the digital computer and the internet.

You need to pray to the Quantum Mechanical deity
 
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wolfman24 said:
This is very true fortunately they are in a very small minority and are caught rather quickly. the scientiifc community as a whole has our own punishment for them
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I don't think scientists believing in their hypotheses in necessarily problematic, so long as they stop believing when they are proven wrong. And I think it's a good thing that scientists believe in the possibility of vaccines before creating or discovering them since that belief may give them the push needed to create/discover it in the first place.
 
lpast said:
Old argument...I dont think anyone really doubts evolution...where the doubt comes in is how the very first life form was created to begin the process of evolution, the very first lifeform could not have evolved.
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O yes, they do. Kentucky is building a "creationism theme park", in large part with taxpayer dollars.

(NEWSER) – Disneyland, pshaw. Soon the new hot amusement park will be located in Kentucky, and called ... Ark Encounter. The Christian theme park will include, among other attractions, a 500-foot-long Noah's Ark complete with live animals, a Tower of Babel replica, and a re-created first-century Middle Eastern village. "Make no mistake about it, this is a huge deal," says the governor, who is backing the park despite criticisms about its ideology.

The park, a collaboration between a for-profit company and the non-profit that runs Kentucky's Creation Museum, is stirring up controversy because developers are asking for tourism development tax incentives of up to $37.5 million, the Courier-Journal reports. Opponents say such incentives would violate the constitutional separation of church and state. Another point of controversy: whether the park will be allowed to discriminate on the basis of religion when hiring, as the Creation Museum does. Assuming those concerns fall on deaf ears, the park is expected to open in 2014.
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Coming to Kentucky: Creationism Theme Park - Complete with 500-foot Noah's Ark replica
 
lpast said:
Who created the very first life form...or what...or where did it come from
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"Life" is not a bright line. I do believe that one celled organisms emerged from the ooze.

Easey-peasey.
 
lpast said:
Who created the very first life form...or what...or where did it come from
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It is plausible, and possible that the "what" is just chemistry.

 
Klown said:
The scientific method originated with the experimental validation that Eratosthenes carried out about 2200 years ago. He determined the circumference of the earth to within about +/- 5% accuracy, using a theory that the earth is spherical and that the curvature of the earth could be determined using shadows cast at different locations on the earth's surface

It was in the temple of science where the Priests developed the digital computer and the internet.

You need to pray to the Quantum Mechanical deity
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So....you don't like the internet? Anti-science and anti-intellectual people really confuse me.
 
lpast said:
Who created the very first life form...or what...or where did it come from
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Well, science would say that the origins of life started with the Big Bang.
 
Pinkie said:
"Life" is not a bright line. I do believe that one celled organisms emerged from the ooze.

Easey-peasey.
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Where do you think the first living organism came from or who created it
 
marduc said:
It is plausible, and possible that the "what" is just chemistry.

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Thats all one sides opinion...they have NO CLUE where the very very start of life came from...whether it was created....one thing is for certain...science didnt create it in a test tube...there was no science then..
 
lpast said:
Where do you think the first living organism came from or who created it
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No one created it; it evolved. I guess I imagine something like Dr. Frankenstein on a molecular level -- highly conductive elements, animated by electricity.

So, a question for you: will your faith be impaired if ever they discover life existed on Mars?
 
zstep18 said:
Well, science would say that the origins of life started with the Big Bang.
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ALot of people say alot of things...I dont want to know what they SAY...I want to know...WHERE THE FIRST LIFE FORM CAME FROM OR WHO CREATED IT....and thus far no one has been able to tell me :(....know why ? because no one knows...not science, nor religion
What do I personally believe ? I dont have a clue
 
Pinkie said:
No one created it; it evolved. I guess I imagine something like Dr. Frankenstein on a molecular level -- highly conductive elements, animated by electricity.

So, a question for you: will your faith be impaired if ever they discover life existed on Mars?
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Pinkie the very first life form had nothing to evolve from
 
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