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Do more people vote for or against Obama mainly because of race?

Does Obama get more votes for or against him because of race?

  • Obama gets more net votes because he's black

    Votes: 6 46.2%
  • Obama gets fewer net votes because he's black

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Obama's race has no bearing on who votes for him.

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • The number of people who vote for him is canceled out by those who vote against him BECAUSE of race

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Questions that suggest blacks vote motivated by race is fair game. This does not and is divisive.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    13

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Party affiliation is the biggest factor in my opinion, followed by the issues, followed by things like likability and being a good family man and being a good model, etc. However I think being black helps Obama among black to voters to some extent. I wonder does race identification among the 14% of black voters specifically considering the historical significance of being the first black pouts where like many city mayors wouldn't matter in terms to breaking new ground in racial equality going forward, is greater or lesser than the impact of 86% of non-black voters some of whom (hopefully few) will vote AGINST him because of race.
 
The answer is obvious.
 
Party affiliation only exists because of the issues. No one would stick with a party that they liked in the past if it completely betrayed their principals. Well, not unless that other one espoused them. There's a lot of people who I imagine are going to vote for Romney specifically to oppose the Democratic president. Even some Ron Paul or Gary Johnson supporters will. But that's because they really don't like where the Democratic party stands on various issues! Nobody has this deep running preference for the letter R or the letter D. They pick the side that most closely matches where they stand on issues.
 
Party affiliation only exists because of the issues. No one would stick with a party that they liked in the past if it completely betrayed their principals. Well, not unless that other one espoused them. There's a lot of people who I imagine are going to vote for Romney specifically to oppose the Democratic president. Even some Ron Paul or Gary Johnson supporters will. But that's because they really don't like where the Democratic party stands on various issues! Nobody has this deep running preference for the letter R or the letter D. They pick the side that most closely matches where they stand on issues.

Interestingly, the democrat party is taking black voters for granted on the issues, social issues primary but others as well. IMHO the biggest factors in keeping many from considering the GOP are: group loyalty, a special commitment to the democrats at this time because the first ever black president is in office who is a democrat and lastly uninformed and insensitive treatment by republicans that have been turn offs. If the GOP learned how to put out an unambiguous welcome sign for minorities instead of sending the "get over it!", "you're all a bunch or free loaders" and "go back to where you came from (which happens to be Texas)" messages of resentment and disdain, I bet you'd see more defections from the democrats. Problem is you can't turn that image around in 60 days or even in 4 years, IMHO. And it has to be consistent and authentic. Surgical and selective pandering is only going to turn off minorities even more.
 
Party affiliation is the biggest factor in my opinion, followed by the issues, followed by things like likability and being a good family man and being a good model, etc. However I think being black helps Obama among black to voters to some extent. I wonder does race identification among the 14% of black voters specifically considering the historical significance of being the first black pouts where like many city mayors wouldn't matter in terms to breaking new ground in racial equality going forward, is greater or lesser than the impact of 86% of non-black voters some of whom (hopefully few) will vote AGINST him because of race.
Considering the fact there are both white and black people who voted for Obama because he is black I would say that more people voted for him than against him because of his race.That I believe that the majority of voters didn't consider his race.
 
Considering the fact there are both white and black people who voted for Obama because he is black I would say that more people voted for him than against him because of his race.That I believe that the majority of voters didn't consider his race.

Not sure if I agree but plausible. In any event, people who change their vote based on race, which is different that being more excited about or driven to vote the way they were going to vote anyway is very small in my opinion.
 
I think lots of blacks vote for Obama because he is black. On the other hand, I think the Republicans subliminally pander to lingering racism in Southern States and this about balances it out.
 
Being that you're a conservative, I'll take it that your "obvious answer" is: "Obama gets more net votes because he's black". :lol:

The truth is what the truth is.
 
I won't presume to say what anybody else has used for their criteria for voting for or against Obama. I can only speak for myself.

Race absolutely does not figure into my decision whom to vote for.
 
I think the people who wouldn't vote for him because he's black are generally the same as the people who wouldn't vote for him because he's a democrat. Would be far more interesting to see a black Republican candidate.
 
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