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Is Homework Detention necessary?

Is homework detention necessary

  • yes

    Votes: 14 66.7%

  • no

    Votes: 7 33.3%
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If you haven't heard or don't know what Homework Detention is, it's a form of discipline that penalizes students who don't do their homework.

I've been to one school that did this, I just want to say that it was very overused and very harsh. Teachers would give you homework detention for missing ONE homework assignment. It was like being punished for missing one day of swimming class.

The schools that do this needs to get back to reality. It's okay to punish students who don't do their homework, but have to give them detention for missing one assignment just proves that you are desperate. Homework isn't really that important. At the school I'm at now, the teachers are not even uptight about such an obsessive assignment. They're not even going to ask or keep you after school.

Is homework detention necessary?
 
Missing one homework is forgivable. Not doing your homework every day of the week except one? There needs to be some sort of punishment. I'm forever calling 2-3 kids' parents saying ... "Homework is not coming back again..." Many times its the PARENTS fault because they don't give a flying crap and won't help their kids get it done or even require that it be done or acknowledge that they know it needs to be done. Kids with parents like that grow up thinking they just don't have to do what authority figures say unless they want to. So sometimes I think a homework detention is fine....sometimes I want to give the parents detention.
 
From my high school experience, most homework assignments were just busywork that the teachers assigned because they didn't know any other way to teach the material. I frequently skipped homework, and still understood virtually every subject better than almost all of my classmates.

If you're not doing well on your tests and don't really have an understanding of the material, do your homework. If you truly understand it and you're capable of having an intelligent discussion about the subject, I'd say skip the homework (if you can get away with it); there's no need wasting your time just to please someone else. One of the few valuable lessons that high school teaches you - which will be applicable later in your life - is that there are lots of people who just create pointless red tape for others. The best solution is usually to just avoid it as much as possible. ;)
 
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Josie said:
Missing one homework is forgivable. Not doing your homework every day of the week except one? There needs to be some sort of punishment. I'm forever calling 2-3 kids' parents saying ... "Homework is not coming back again..." Many times its the PARENTS fault because they don't give a flying crap and won't help their kids get it done or even require that it be done or acknowledge that they know it needs to be done. Kids with parents like that grow up thinking they just don't have to do what authority figures say unless they want to. So sometimes I think a homework detention is fine....sometimes I want to give the parents detention.
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Its simple. Fail the students. Thats the way used to be done. You perform or you fail. No detention required.
 
marcus903 said:
If you haven't heard or don't know what Homework Detention is, it's a form of discipline that penalizes students who don't do their homework.

I've been to one school that did this, I just want to say that it was very overused and very harsh. Teachers would give you homework detention for missing ONE homework assignment. It was like being punished for missing one day of swimming class.

The schools that do this needs to get back to reality. It's okay to punish students who don't do their homework, but have to give them detention for missing one assignment just proves that you are desperate. Homework isn't really that important. At the school I'm at now, the teachers are not even uptight about such an obsessive assignment. They're not even going to ask or keep you after school.

Is homework detention necessary?
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The punishment for failing to turn in a homework assignment should be simple, an F for that assignment. No other punishment required. To do otherwise is pointless and foolish.
 
marcus903 said:
If you haven't heard or don't know what Homework Detention is, it's a form of discipline that penalizes students who don't do their homework.

I've been to one school that did this, I just want to say that it was very overused and very harsh. Teachers would give you homework detention for missing ONE homework assignment. It was like being punished for missing one day of swimming class.

The schools that do this needs to get back to reality. It's okay to punish students who don't do their homework, but have to give them detention for missing one assignment just proves that you are desperate. Homework isn't really that important. At the school I'm at now, the teachers are not even uptight about such an obsessive assignment. They're not even going to ask or keep you after school.

Is homework detention necessary?
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It's true homework can sometimes be silly and stupid but doing them does build work ethic and sometimes gives you practice you need. I would not say "Homework isn't really that important", it is.

Come on lets face it "detention" isn't THAT awful, you stay after school and do some more work (which you should've done in the first place), once your done with the HW I'd say they should let you move on to more interesting/advanced stuff, incause you didn't do your HW cause i thought it was too easy =P.
 
PirateMk1 said:
The punishment for failing to turn in a homework assignment should be simple, an F for that assignment. No other punishment required. To do otherwise is pointless and foolish.
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I'm not sure that's the right approach. When the parent doesn't care about education, rare as it may be. The kid just keeps getting F's and don't care, need to show them that being capable of reasoning and knowledgable is important.
 
PirateMk1 said:
The punishment for failing to turn in a homework assignment should be simple, an F for that assignment. No other punishment required. To do otherwise is pointless and foolish.
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I would agree with this for high school kids at least, maybe middle school too. By that age, a kid should have either learned to do the work, or they're not going to learn. For younger kids, elementary school, and maybe middle school, part of teachers' jobs is to teach kids good study habits. Making them stay in during recess, or stay after school to finish an assignment they didn't do might help teach them that it's important to do their homework. But for high schoolers, yeah, just fail them.

And it is important. Sometimes the assignments themselves are stupid, and don't teach you a whole lot, but learning to do your homework teaches you to be responsible, and it helps you prepare for college, when the assignments you're given to do out of class are much more important and critical to your education.
 
Just do the HW and there won't be a problem :shrug:

If they know of the consequences of not doing the work and don't do it anyway then that is their fault.
 
I went to a school with homework detention. I probably missed 1 or 2 assignments and I think having detention for them (where we did the missed homework) was a good thing. It made sure that there were consequences for every action, that we finished the homework meant to help us and that the goals and standards of the school were very clear.
 
PirateMk1 said:
The punishment for failing to turn in a homework assignment should be simple, an F for that assignment. No other punishment required. To do otherwise is pointless and foolish.
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No. Homework detention at my school forced us to do the missing homework assignment. It also took away time that might have otherwise been used for fun. Neither of those things are pointless and foolish.
 
As a parent I'm opposed to it, and to homework in general.


The educational edifice already has my kid for over seven hours a day, if you can't teach him what you need to in those seven hours.... then maybe you can cut some of the fluff and BS out and streamline the more necessary things. After 7 hours in class, a teenager doesn't need to spend three hours at home doing homework and studying. Give their @#$# brain a rest already.
 
A whole bunch of fail in this thread, I'm sorry I read it. If doing just enough to get buy is what passes for education nowadays, I'll be hiring more Asians well into the future.
 
If I couldn't finish my homework in class, I didn't do it.
The vast majority of it was pointless, repetitive crap I already mastered.

Math homework, ok, makes sense.
All the other nonsense, no thanks.
 
Kandahar said:
From my high school experience, most homework assignments were just busywork that the teachers assigned because they didn't know any other way to teach the material. I frequently skipped homework, and still understood virtually every subject better than almost all of my classmates.

If you're not doing well on your tests and don't really have an understanding of the material, do your homework. If you truly understand it and you're capable of having an intelligent discussion about the subject, I'd say skip the homework (if you can get away with it); there's no need wasting your time just to please someone else. One of the few valuable lessons that high school teaches you - which will be applicable later in your life - is that there are lots of people who just create pointless red tape for others. The best solution is usually to just avoid it as much as possible. ;)
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It also teaches another valuable lesson, one everybody needs as adults: Sometimes you have to do work you don't like...and you don't get a vote on it.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Its simple. Fail the students. Thats the way used to be done. You perform or you fail. No detention required.
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That's the way it should be done, IMO. In my school district, however, and even if you turn in no work at all, the lowest score you are given in a high school math class is a 50.

Oh, and it's not politically correct to use the term "failure": You must use "delayed success."
 
nota bene said:
It also teaches another valuable lesson, one everybody needs as adults: Sometimes you have to do work you don't like...and you don't get a vote on it.
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It's not that we don't like it.
It's that, it's without purpose, a gigantic waste of time.

Not everyone needs the constant repetition to grasp material.
 
But everybody does need to learn that life isn't like Burger King--you don't always get to have it your way.

My job increasingly requires bean-counting--contributions to the lords of the databases--and it's time-consumptive and sometimes dumb, particularly when I know that nobody will ever look at the beans. For example, a few months ago I had to take data from a wide variety of sources (and from more than one computer and flashdrive) and convert it all into a PDF that ran over 360 pages.

Did I gripe? Heck, yes. Did I do it? Heck, yes. I like having the lights on every day and being able to make my car payment.
 
I think homework has gotten WAY out of control. The kids can barely carry all the books they have to carry home as it is. They have like 30 pounds of books in their backpacks. I think homework is a waste of time. Most kids don't do it, or don't do it right anyway. The teachers only check to see if the children did their homework, they don't check each and every paper to see that they're right. I think that 6-7 hours of school a day is MORE than enough for children. They need time to be kids and play too.
 
nota bene said:
But everybody does need to learn that life isn't like Burger King--you don't always get to have it your way.

My job increasingly requires bean-counting--contributions to the lords of the databases--and it's time-consumptive and sometimes dumb, particularly when I know that nobody will ever look at the beans. For example, a few months ago I had to take data from a wide variety of sources (and from more than one computer and flashdrive) and convert it all into a PDF that ran over 360 pages.

Did I gripe? Heck, yes. Did I do it? Heck, yes. I like having the lights on every day and being able to make my car payment.
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Yea but see, when you want kids to learn, especially smart kids (not the same as doing a job you get paid for), you don't make them repeat material they have already grasped.
You move on to other things.

Otherwise you're gonna have trouble making and bored smart kids, wasting their time and talents on things beneath them.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
A whole bunch of fail in this thread, I'm sorry I read it. If doing just enough to get buy is what passes for education nowadays, I'll be hiring more Asians well into the future.
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Ummmm. You spelled "by" wrong. LOL! :2razz: Just razzing you!
 
molten_dragon said:
I would agree with this for high school kids at least, maybe middle school too. By that age, a kid should have either learned to do the work, or they're not going to learn. For younger kids, elementary school, and maybe middle school, part of teachers' jobs is to teach kids good study habits. Making them stay in during recess, or stay after school to finish an assignment they didn't do might help teach them that it's important to do their homework. But for high schoolers, yeah, just fail them.

And it is important. Sometimes the assignments themselves are stupid, and don't teach you a whole lot, but learning to do your homework teaches you to be responsible, and it helps you prepare for college, when the assignments you're given to do out of class are much more important and critical to your education.
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There are so many OTHER ways to teach children responsibility. Isn't 6-7 hours of school a day enough? These are kids we're talking about. For goodness sake, most adults only work for 8 hours a day with no homework.
 
Goshin said:
As a parent I'm opposed to it, and to homework in general.


The educational edifice already has my kid for over seven hours a day, if you can't teach him what you need to in those seven hours.... then maybe you can cut some of the fluff and BS out and streamline the more necessary things. After 7 hours in class, a teenager doesn't need to spend three hours at home doing homework and studying. Give their @#$# brain a rest already.
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LOL, your kid must think your a rockstar, no homework yaay! Vin Diesel rules...

;)
 
The homework should be purposeful. Don't teachers have to create assignments that are measureably designed to meet the requirements of the measurement/assessment administrators and their "learning outcomes"?
 
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