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Do you think most Blacks vote for Obama just because he black?

Do you think most Blacks vote for Obama just because he black?

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zstep18 said:
Right. But, my point was that how blacks vote has more to do with whether or not the candidate is Democrat or Republican. Meaning, blacks aren't voting for Obama just because he's black, but because he's a Democrat.

Wouldn't you agree?
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I think I posted my views earlier

If Obama were white he would have obtained a huge percentage of the black vote just as Gore and Kerry did

HOWEVER his race did cause lots of first time black voters to appear
 
Navy Pride said:
I watched a show the other day where where the Moderator went on the street and told Obama voters that Obama is Pro Life, against all abortions, and against equal rights for gays.........90% of them said they knew that already and were still going to vote for him so the question begs to be asked..........
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I wonder if every Mormon in the country will vote for Romney just because he is Mormon?
 
TurtleDude said:
There are two answers to this question (and I haven't read the whole thread so my apologies If I repeat something)

1) most blacks have voted dem ever since the handouts of the New Deal

2) If Obama was white or Hispanic he would get almost the same percentage of voters who are black

3) however, the fact that he was black caused many more blacks who had not voted in the past to show up and vote. we saw that when a 10 term congressman lost for the first time in Cincinnati (Steve Chabot). Blacks voted dem at almost the same percentages as they had in 2006 (lock step welfare socialist) but lots of new black voters gave Steve Driehaus (who claimed to have about the same agenda as Chabot). when Obama was not on the ticket in 2010, Chabot easily won though blacks voted welfare socialist at the same high numbers. Far less of them showed up.
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Here is my position on this thread's question
 
TurtleDude said:
I think I posted my views earlier

If Obama were white he would have obtained a huge percentage of the black vote just as Gore and Kerry did

HOWEVER his race did cause lots of first time black voters to appear
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I agree.

Now my next question: Can you really blame someone who voted for Obama mostly just because he's black, at least for the first go around?
 
Most blacks vote for Obama because he is a Democrat. The fact that Obama is black may very well be responsible for more blacks actually showing up to the polls, however.

If the Republican nominee were black and the Democrat were white, I don't for one second think most blacks would vote for the Republican.
 
zstep18 said:
I agree.

Now my next question: Can you really blame someone who voted for Obama mostly just because he's black, at least for the first go around?
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Yeah but I realize most people aren't nearly as well informed as I am (or most of those on this board for that matter. far it, people interested enough in politics to spend time debating it on line are hard core when it comes to knowledge compared to the average voter who is more likely to be able to tell you who the last two AMERICAN IDOL finalists were than the two senators from their home state)
 
Sarcogito said:
Most blacks vote for Obama because he is a Democrat. The fact that Obama is black may very well be responsible for more blacks actually showing up to the polls, however.

If the Republican nominee were black and the Democrat were white, I don't for one second think most blacks would vote for the Republican.
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I agree totally

when Ken Blackwell (R) ran against Appalachian White Ted Strickland (D) for Governor in Ohio, most of the blacks voted for the white guy over the conservative Black
 
No I think most blacks vote for him because he's a democrat. Being black is just an added bonus that strengthens black voter turn out.
 
Navy Pride said:
How do you they were all morons? How do you if most blacks feel this way my left wing friend?.........I have rarely seen any blacsk on the news networks that did not support Obama.
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Most blacks weren't interviewed....some were. And the only ones that were featured, were idiots. He's sensationalizing for the sake of ratings.
 
JohnWOlin said:
No I think most blacks vote for him because he's a democrat. Being black is just an added bonus that strengthens black voter turn out.
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Bingo. Blacks vote for Obama because he's a Democrat. They are excited about voting for him because he's black.
 
Crosscheck said:
I wonder if every Mormon in the country will vote for Romney just because he is Mormon?
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Not Harry Ried. Lol. The same can be said of Allen West in support of Obama.

Great thread. It's helping to bring about better understanding and clearing up big misconceptions.
 
TurtleDude said:
There are two answers to this question (and I haven't read the whole thread so my apologies If I repeat something)

1) most blacks have voted dem ever since the handouts of the New Deal
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I beg to differ. Most blacks have vorted democrat since alliances were forged between the remnant civil rights leadership and north eastern democrats who helped them transition into new roles as democrat elected officials. Entitlements may have played a small role but the real factor was stick together teamism. Black voters were not going to vote against the same people who marched for their right to vote, were beaten and otherwise abused for their rights to be recognized as equally American. A powerful tradition set in and today most black voters equate voting democrat with patriotism. This not because if entitements but because of love of country. I understand it might be difficult to relate to without having an American heritage from that black perspective. A similar dynamic us now being solidified among Latino voters, possibly even a stronger association with the democrats and American patriotism because in their case the GOP has been portrayed as the enemy of the Hispanic population ala Arizona immigration law, tye southern border fence, etc.
 
Most (with the operative word 'most' meaning at least 51%) PEOPLE dont know who, why, or what the **** they are voting for. MOST people reacted to the ChikFilA incident based soleley on kneejerk responses. MOST people vote for party over a candidate and MOST people couldnt tell you who they supported or why. MOST people believe in 12 second sound bites and dont bother to read what it is they are actually being sold as in the health care legislation. MOST people support their rewpublican or democrat candidates based on the letter in front of their name and couldnt give a damn about the candidate. To the OP...do I believe that blacks are no different than 'MOST' people? I believe 'MOST' blacks support the democrat candidate because thats that they have been led to believe they are supposed to do. Do I believe that Obama being black helps? Hell yes, and anyone that doesnt is naive or an intentional liar. Im not going to bother posting the COUNTLESS videos and audio samplings that indicate the same. Im not going to bather posting Samuel L Jacksons comments or Jay Zs comments. Hell...at least they are honest.
 
cpwill said:
Bingo. Blacks vote for Obama because he's a Democrat. They are excited about voting for him because he's black.
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I hadn't thought much about this before I read this poll and some posts like cpwill's. I thought about myself and two candidates that I judged were exactly equal, hypothetical I know, but one is 'black' and the other is 'white'. I'd vote for the black one because he is black. Oh gosh, a white man voting for a black candidate because of race.
 
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mac said:
Most blacks weren't interviewed....some were. And the only ones that were featured, were idiots. He's sensationalizing for the sake of ratings.
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all the ones that were voted for Obama......Do you believe that was just a coincidence?
 
Navy Pride said:
all the ones that were voted for Obama......Do you believe that was just a coincidence?
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Yes. If I interview 100 people, and find three idiots that voted for Obama, I can highlight those, cut out the rest, and make it look like all the blacks that voted for Obama did so because they're racist idiots.
 
Kandahar said:
What an idiotic, racist question. An overwhelming majority of blacks have voted for every Democratic presidential candidate for a long time, including white folks like John Kerry, Al Gore, and Bill Clinton. In fact, in the rare circumstances when there is a white Democrat and a black Republican on the ballot (e.g. the 2006 Maryland Senate race), most black voters have STILL backed the white Democrat.

Perhaps it's because they agree with the Democrats on the issues more. Or perhaps it's because the Republicans totally alienate them via moronic race-baiting like this thread. :shrug:
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I agree. Also notice the deliberately bad grammar, "just because he black." Totally racist.
 
Navy Pride said:
I watched a show the other day where where the Moderator went on the street and told Obama voters that Obama is Pro Life, against all abortions, and against equal rights for gays.........90% of them said they knew that already and were still going to vote for him so the question begs to be asked..........
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It's amazing anybody would be foolish enough to even think that given that 85% of blacks typically vote Democrat; no matter what their skin color is. So the answer to your question is an obvious no.
 
mac said:
Yes. If I interview 100 people, and find three idiots that voted for Obama, I can highlight those, cut out the rest, and make it look like all the blacks that voted for Obama did so because they're racist idiots.
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What if you interview 10 people and all are clueless where Obama is on the issues?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
It's amazing anybody would be foolish enough to even think that given that 85% of blacks typically vote Democrat; no matter what their skin color is. So the answer to your question is an obvious no.
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Using the math I was taught my left wing friend 95% is considerably more.........
 
I think a lot of black people did... it was just convenient because he was democrat so it was a double whammy of love for this guy, but since Black people tend to overwhelmingly vote democrat anyway you can't really draw much of a conclusion from the votes, but they were much more motivated about his election because he was black that is for sure.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
It's amazing anybody would be foolish enough to even think that given that 85% of blacks typically vote Democrat; no matter what their skin color is. So the answer to your question is an obvious no.
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no, the obvious conclusion is that you can't draw much of a conclusion from the votes.... get it right
 
The premise of the "proof" in the OP is a bigoted premise from the start.
 
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