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Chinese Policy

Who will be tougher on China?

  • Romney

    Votes: 4 50.0%

  • Obama

    Votes: 4 50.0%
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Who do you think will be tougher on China? They both claim that they will be tough on China, but who will really follow through? Or is that not the way to go at all?
 
iacardsfan said:
Who do you think will be tougher on China? They both claim that they will be tough on China, but who will really follow through? Or is that not the way to go at all?
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Yeah let's be tough on a nation that we owe money to....we need a leader that will keep tensions low between us while at the same time try to get businesses back to American through tax breaks and other ways.
 
Neither of them will do anything to intentionally inflame tensions with China, nor should they. They're both just talking out of their asses to try to score political points. It's a shame that they do it by stirring up anti-China sentiment though.
 
iacardsfan said:
Who do you think will be tougher on China? They both claim that they will be tough on China, but who will really follow through? Or is that not the way to go at all?
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China wants to be what the U.S. is (the biggest world power). In this day and age that means that they need to be the biggest economic power. To accomplish that goal they are willing to break rules and step on the toes of other countries.

Romney is more business minded and will deal with china in a way that is better for our economic competitiveness.
 
I'm pretty tired of people talking about China like it's "the enemy". It's not.

They might be devaluing their currency but so are we... The federal reserve is destroying the value of the dollar.
 
iacardsfan said:
Who do you think will be tougher on China? They both claim that they will be tough on China, but who will really follow through? Or is that not the way to go at all?
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tough how?
 
comedy4all said:
China wants to be what the U.S. is (the biggest world power). In this day and age that means that they need to be the biggest economic power. To accomplish that goal they are willing to break rules and step on the toes of other countries.
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Well, let's be clear: China is "willing to break rules and step on the toes of other countries" exactly like any other upcoming power would (and as the United States did). International law, as it exists today, is largely a construct of the dominant post-WWII countries with little input from others. Chinese influence in this sphere is remarkably small relative to the size of its economy, so I don't think it's particularly surprising that they don't always play by the rules. What will probably eventually happen is that lots of international laws will need to be rewritten with more participation from China and consideration for Chinese interests. And this is as it should be.

Since China has the most people of any nation, it ought to have the biggest economy too. The fact that it doesn't yet is an indication of how backward and poor it still is. China's economic boom is something that everyone should celebrate, as it greatly reduces global poverty.
 
Kandahar said:
Well, let's be clear: China is "willing to break rules and step on the toes of other countries" exactly like any other upcoming power would (and as the United States did). International law, as it exists today, is largely a construct of the dominant post-WWII countries with little input from others. Chinese influence in this sphere is remarkably small relative to the size of its economy, so I don't think it's particularly surprising that they don't always play by the rules. What will probably eventually happen is that lots of international laws will need to be rewritten with more participation from China and consideration for Chinese interests. And this is as it should be.

Since China has the most people of any nation, it ought to have the biggest economy too. The fact that it doesn't yet is an indication of how backward and poor it still is. China's economic boom is something that everyone should celebrate, as it greatly reduces global poverty.
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who cares about nations which are far away and about which we know little?




China is rising slowly, but she is no gentle giant. We should be no more at ease with her taking dominance over the southeast pacific than we should have been with the Soviets taking Eastern Europe.
 
Its pathetic that both our presidential candidates would pander to the impotent losers who desire aggressive foreign policy because it makes them feel strong. China is certainly a rival, but it is competition of economics not force. If we want to stay on top, it will require leadership skilled in negotiating trade agreement as opposed to childish chest beating.
 
I voted for Obama. He is soft and subservient only with the middle eastern and african countries. He is pretty steadfast in relation to European countries and east asian countries, including China. Romney still seems to think there is a cold war going on and that the Russians are the worlds biggest threat...
 
Kandahar said:
Well, let's be clear: China is "willing to break rules and step on the toes of other countries" exactly like any other upcoming power would (and as the United States did). International law, as it exists today, is largely a construct of the dominant post-WWII countries with little input from others. Chinese influence in this sphere is remarkably small relative to the size of its economy, so I don't think it's particularly surprising that they don't always play by the rules. What will probably eventually happen is that lots of international laws will need to be rewritten with more participation from China and consideration for Chinese interests. And this is as it should be.

Since China has the most people of any nation, it ought to have the biggest economy too. The fact that it doesn't yet is an indication of how backward and poor it still is. China's economic boom is something that everyone should celebrate, as it greatly reduces global poverty.
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China will do what they will do, if it works for them than it’s a good thing.
Economic freedom is what drives successful economies. China has gotten better at economic freedom, but still has a long way to go. What we have to do is treat china like a business not a country. A country you treat as an enemy or an ally, a business you treat as competition. We need to compete with china, and I think that Romney has a better business mindset that will work out more in our favor.
 
iacardsfan said:
Who do you think will be tougher on China? They both claim that they will be tough on China, but who will really follow through? Or is that not the way to go at all?
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Neither. They both toss China's salad(slang for anus licking).
 
cpwill said:
who cares about nations which are far away and about which we know little?




China is rising slowly, but she is no gentle giant. We should be no more at ease with her taking dominance over the southeast pacific than we should have been with the Soviets taking Eastern Europe.
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We?

Who is this "we" mr cpwill?

The Fascist US corpocratically controlled military is not."we"

How is China dominant?

The US has 1000+ military installations in over 140 puppet and occupied countries in the world today

And the bills are mounting with the US financially broke

Time is running out mr cpwil

The vultures are circling
 
Klown said:
The Fascist US corpocratically controlled military is not."we"
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It is for those of us who support it. Personally, I wish it was more corpocratic but that will improve.
 
Klown said:
We?

Who is this "we" mr cpwill?

The Fascist US corpocratically controlled military is not."we"

How is China dominant?

The US has 1000+ military installations in over 140 puppet and occupied countries in the world today

And the bills are mounting with the US financially broke

Time is running out mr cpwil

The vultures are circling
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Wait, what? I don't even....
 
ecofarm said:
It is for those of us who support it. Personally, I wish it was more corpocratic but that will improve.
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The three pillars of fascism to emerge from the 20th century were Bolshevism, Nazism and Corporatism

I hope you realise what you're propping up
 
ecofarm said:
I can prop what I like. I want a death star and more bombs.
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Of course - you can accept the chains that enslave you or you can focus your energy on breaking them

Obvioulsy the later is just too diffucult, uncomfortable and personally challenging to whatever residual integrity is left in your rotting moral carcass
 
Klown said:
We?

Who is this "we" mr cpwill?

The Fascist US corpocratically controlled military is not."we"

How is China dominant?

The US has 1000+ military installations in over 140 puppet and occupied countries in the world today

And the bills are mounting with the US financially broke

Time is running out mr cpwil

The vultures are circling
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your insane anti-american sentiment is disturbing. in response to your next posts.

Though corporatism is indeed a sort of fascist ideology it is non-the-less the reason why you should cheer the destruction of the american people.
 
Wiseone said:
Wait, what? I don't even....
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Yeah, as near as I can tell, he's counting embassy guards. I just put him on ignore. I think there are a grand total of, like, three posters on that list.
 
Rainman05 said:
your insane anti-american sentiment is disturbing. in response to your next posts.

Though corporatism is indeed a sort of fascist ideology it is non-the-less the reason why you should cheer the destruction of the american people.
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Why do you take my comments personally?
Have you ever seen a post of mine that denegrates the American People?
I actually empathise with the bulk of the American people.

And as you admit the Corporatist tyranny that enslaves the American people deserves not only exposure but criticism and dismantlement.

(I have worked and travelled through a lot of the US mainland, and I can only say good things about the people I have met - especially ordinary Americans who are are currently suffering)

cheers:peace
 
Klown said:
Why do you take my comments personally?
Have you ever seen a post of mine that denegrates the American People?
I actually empathise with the bulk of the American people.

And as you admit the Corporatist tyranny that enslaves the American people deserves not only exposure but criticism and dismantlement.

(I have worked and travelled through a lot of the US mainland, and I can only say good things about the people I have met - especially ordinary Americans who are are currently suffering)

cheers:peace
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It's nothing personal. But when you go about talking in terms of ticking clocks and circling vultures, it generates images of destruction and harm to the majority of the people, not the political class.
 
Rainman05 said:
It's nothing personal. But when you go about talking in terms of ticking clocks and circling vultures, it generates images of destruction and harm to the majority of the people, not the political class.
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The ticking clock and circling vultures are not for the American people - they are for the currently collapsing and rotting fascist Corpocracy - and its the American people who will demand the inenstatement of that great American dream

(a Corpocracy is a partnership between state and corporate powers - its ruthlessly powerful - have you noticed how impotent the US congress appears to be irrespective of who or which party is elected into power?)
 
...rainman05 I can only wish you luck - there are a lot of people counting on you to topple the tyranny where it is strongest, then the rest of the minors will follow (including my own pathetic Australian corpocracy)
 
Your over the top hyperbole only serves to hurt your case. It makes reasonable people who are unhappy with the level of corporate influence in government be associated with frothing at the mouth lunacy. Its really not that hard to say a given organization is bad without going off the deep end and calling them fascists.
 
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