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Playing devil's advocate describes pretty much everything I do.
So your saying your employed by Satan, ehhh? :twisted:
Playing devil's advocate describes pretty much everything I do.
I can always use one more religion to make fun off. So no. Muhammed the killer, Jesus the flower power fairy and Vishnu the creep should all be fair game.
So your saying your employed by Satan, ehhh? :twisted:
Start new thread, leave this one alone as you seem to agree that disparaging or critical marks must be protected and only incitment to violence should be stopped. There is no ambiguity in the question asked, it is not about incitement to violence.
Pirate, you get me.
That cannot possibly be true. There are all kinds of boobs on CBS. Rubes too.You could be right, eco. There could be a regulation that prohibit boobs on CBS.
I thought it was an Obama voter who came up with it.That "Obamaphone" meme is about the only catchy phrase the Romney campaign has come up with.
Uh, that chip on your shoulder is way too big to ignore. Why not get a half a dozen of your friends to help remove it and put it on the floor?I am a libertarian first and foremost, my concern is getting the government to respect all fundamental human right, not respect the wishes of a bunch of slaveholders.
I thought it was an Obama voter who came up with it.
Uh, that chip on your shoulder is way too big to ignore. Why not get a half a dozen of your friends to help remove it and put it on the floor?
I try to help. Are you unable to even get the sayings right? I thought not.Why are you so worried about the chip on my shoulder, when you should remove the plank from your own shoulder?
The problem is anything could be construed as an "incitement" to violence. Didn't some people get killed because someone drew a cartoon of Muhammed?
The problem is anything could be construed as an "incitement" to violence. Didn't some people get killed because someone drew a cartoon of Muhammed?
I come from the academic tradition of Nozickian/Rothbardian libertarians. Frankly, I have never understood you folks who hold the framers up like gods, and why you think that following the constitution as they wrote it has anything to do with libertarianism.
As for your question, you have made me into a Strawman, and slurred a religion of peace, so it is not possible for me to answer other than to say you need to get your facts straight, both about me and the Islamic faith.
Agreed, though I think you should just ignore the term indirect incitement to violence as it is meaningless. Now what in the question:
Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime?
Makes you have any hesitation to say NO!
it does not talk of incitement to violence but of speech that is disparaging or critical of Muhammed. I could care less if you replace Muhammed with Christ, Buddha, Vishnu, Obama, Romney, or even Bob who lives next door and doesnt pick up after his dog. The answer in every single case is NO!
I don't have a dog. If I did have a dog, I would certainly clean up after it, as necessary.
Whatever you may think of this nation's founders, they certainly deserve far more respect than the subhuman savages to whom you would like to give power over us. I cannot imagine any rational argument in favor of the idea that the wishes of subhuman savages who have no standing in our society should carry any weight at all in this society.
No, I did not. I said nothing about the Islamic religion. I accurately described a group of subhuman savages, who are no better than dumb, wild, violent animals. That these savages claim to be adherents of the Muslim faith, and use this as an excuse for their behavior, has no relevance at all. As it happens, I have a great many friends and colleagues who are Muslims. It is you who have insulted my Muslim friends, by implying that Islam has any relevance to the behavior of the wild animals who are under discussion.
I do not blame my friends' Muslim faith for the behavior of the savages that are under discussion, any more than I, as a Christian, would expect to be blamed for the behavior of Fred Phelps and his gang, or for groups like the Ku Klux Klan.
Personally, I've always considered slave owners to be subhuman savages. All thinking people agree with me on this.
Out for a nice troll this morning, are we?
This isn't a question about whether Muhammad was a warlord. You could call the Christian God and many other God systems the same thing. It's a matter of respecting other people's beliefs. If someone were to tell me unicorns are real and it helps them sleep at night, I might think they're off their rocker, but I certainly wouldn't be disrespectful about it. If the maker of the movie had any respect, he wouldn't have made the movie, let alone lie to the actors in the film and voice over their original parts.
Again, it boils down to common sense. You don't make a movie like that and release it publicly knowing that it will cause violent outrage. It's a thin line to walk, I admit that. But you have to ask yourself, at what point does it stop being art? We don't consider child porn as art. We don't consider racial violence videos as art. We shouldn't consider this art either.
Only if you consider challenging groupthink to be trolling. These are things people need to consider. I'm not going to stand idly by while a bunch of participants in a Muslim-bashing session pat themselves on the back for being champions of free speech. It's absurd. And if you think the framers were Godlike figures, you need to account for their inherent savagery as slave owners and racists.
That is entirely false.I do not think anyone in this thread other than you has engaged herein in any Muslim-bashing. What we have “bashed” are violent, subhuman savages, and those who would give these savages the power to dictate what rights we get to enjoy as members of a free society. As far as I can tell, you are the only one who has implied that the Muslim religion has relevance to the behavior of these savages.