Muddy Creek, look, the way you slice up someone's post and respond to its various parts is by placing [ quote ] (but with no spaces) at the start and [ /quote ] (again without spaces) at the end. The reason to do it this way is so that when I hit "Reply with Quote," all of the things you've said show up for me to respond to. Or highlight what I've said and then click the Quote icon. Since you haven't done this, I have to manually copy/paste all your comments to be able to respond. Forums 101. Learn the tricks.
Google "insurance death spiral" and read.
I don't provide your information. YOU Provide the information to defend your argument or admit it's indefensible.
If anyone wanted to stop the corporate and social welfare food system, they'd make sure we pull back on food stamps. Federal Government should not be feeding us.
Who should feed the poor? Because last this nation knew, the born again evangelical republican cults that take faith based tax dollars just want to "rehabilitate" pedophihles and gays and stop women from having the choice of abortions with their "Pregnancy Centers"
You ****ing can't help yourself can you, but to create red herring after red herring. If you'd read my posts you'd see that I ****ing hated Bush, but this thread is not about the Bush Administration. Focus.
I am focused. Stop making dead end claims about Obama as though it's the first time a decision was made by a president.
He has done what Bush did.
I am a member of a political forum. I don't have constituents. Except for the kind folks who "Like" my posts, I guess.
YOu don't talk to co-workers nor family? Just the internet? Sorry.
Republicans NEVER eliminate social programs. If anything, they expand them. In other words, they SAY we need to cut back on them, but they never do. They outright lie. Exactly the same way Obama says he's supporting the Middle Classes when in fact he's doing the exact opposite. They say whatever their voters want to hear. I refuse to believe them because they never accomplish what they say they want to. You continue to believe what you're told despite all the outcomes we've seen over the past few decades.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/08/us/house-bill-offers-aid-cuts-to-save-military-spending.html?_r=0
The Republican-led House this week will lay bare the choice between social programs and Pentagon spending in an age of austerity when it takes up legislation to slice $261 billion from food stamps, Medicaid, social services and other programs for struggling Americans over the next decade to stave off more than $50 billion in military spending cuts scheduled to take effect next year.
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The House Budget Committee on Monday took up budget bills passed out of six different committees last month, packaged them and sent them to the full House as one bill on a party-line vote. A separate bill, also approved by the committee, would formally lift the threat of automatic Pentagon cuts next year.
Neither of the measures will pass the Senate, but the final House vote this Thursday amounts to a Republican bet that voters will reward the party for its tough-love priorities, despite Democratic attacks that will only build in intensity this week.
“We are here to meet our legal and our moral obligations to lead,” said Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, chairman of the House Budget Committee.
Representative Kathy Castor, Democrat of Florida, accused Republicans of “socking it to children, older Americans and disabled Americans,” and going “for the jugular.”
The showdown in the House was set up by last summer’s protracted crisis over the debt ceiling, when Republicans agreed to raise the nation’s statutory borrowing limit in exchange for guaranteed deficit reduction of $1.2 trillion over 10 years, which was supposed to come out of a special select committee on the deficit. When that committee failed to reach agreement in November, the debt ceiling deal’s backup kicked in — more than $1 trillion in across-the-board spending cuts to military and domestic programs. Those cuts were to exempt programs for people deemed the most vulnerable.
I think it's safe to say the republicans want to eliminate all FDR social programs to make room for all these huge tax cuts they want to bring in.
By deficit spending and re-appointing the liberal monetary policymaker that Bush appointed in the first place. Both of these act as taxes over the long run and neither the rich nor the poor are going to feel the pain of these taxes. Those who will feel the most pain are the middle classes. This has been explained ad nauseam and you're still playing dumb to it.
Republicans will raise taxes on the middle class and poor.
Ryan wants to give the wealthy even bigger tax cuts than Romney does
Under Ryan’s plan, the six tiers of tax rates would be simplified to two rates: 25 percent for higher earners and 10 percent for lower-earners. But the overall impact of the Ryan budget would still disproportionately benefit the wealthy. The top 20 percent would get a $13,907 tax cut in 2015, and the top 1 percent would get a whopping $155,808 tax break, according to an analysis by the Tax Policy Center. By contrast, the bottom 20 percent of Americans would pay $159 more in taxes in 2015.
That’s because the Ryan budget would get rid of tax breaks that benefit low-income Americans, including expansions of “the Earned Income Tax Credit, Child Tax Credit, and American Opportunity Tax Credit that were enacted in 2009,” according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. As a result, effective tax rates on those with incomes than $30,000 would actually go up, while going down for the wealthy, the CBPP concludes:
(Source: CBPP)
Ryan says that he would also eliminate tax breaks for the wealthy, among others, to order to help pay for these rate cuts, which total almost $10 trillion, according to the CBPP. But he’s declined to specify which tax breaks for the rich he’d actually get rid of. Instead, “Ryan has said the House’s tax-writing Ways and Means Committee will sort that out later,” as Businessweek pointed out earlier this year. What’s more, Ryan actually wants to expand one of the biggest tax breaks that benefit the wealthy: He wants to eliminate taxes on capital gains, dividends, and interest. So it remains unclear how Ryan would ensure that $10 trillion in rate cuts wouldn’t explode the deficit.
In fact, Romney’s tax plan suffers from exactly the same policy gap: He has also refused to specify which tax breaks he’d get rid of to pay for big rate cuts that would disproportionately benefit the wealthy. When the Tax Policy Center tried to fill in the gaps, they found that Romney’s plan still gave big tax breaks to the wealthy while raising taxes on lower- and middle-income families. Both Romney and Ryan would also cut the corporate tax rate to 25 percent, also offset by getting rid of corporate tax breaks that neither will specify.
Austerity, cutting for the middle class and poor to give to the rich has proven to be a failed economic policy in Europe. Some nations are now ratcheting up the money for the middle class and poor and taxing the rich...and coming out of the recession far better than we are.
Yes it is. I've pointed out several areas in which he promotes this. Monetary policy and banking, health care, agriculture, etc.
How about a little less "pointing" and a lot more facts?
No, the middle classes are the victims of this. There have always been poor people, there will always be poor people, and they are victims of their own imprudence, stupidity, addictions, instant gratification-seeking, etc. Some people can't help themselves. Poverty is intergenerational, not political.
Again, how about a little less drama and bigotry and alot more facts to "prove"this?
I have a problem with both, and Big Government helps both. Who they don't help is the middle class, because the middle class ends up paying for all their corrupt, deceitful policies.
Social SEcurity is corrupt? When the median income in this nation is $50,000 for a family of four, a lot of social programs help the middle class. What does NOT help the middle class is to raise the taxes on them like the republicans want. What does NOT Help the middle class is abolishing unions which fight for safe working conditions, liveable wages and affordable health care.
I hate the Republicans and Bush. I also hate Obama for the same reasons. So you keep on trying to distract from Obama by bringing up his ideological twins in the GOP, but you'll continue to look desperate to defend Obama via distraction.
No distraction, just rebutting your accusations that Obama did this first, chant. There are many things about Obama I don't agree with. But if you think he's not doing his best to help the middle class, then you're far too republican for me, despite your protests.