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Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

Which is he


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Please tell me how he is Muslim?
His earlier background has Islam written all over it. The fact that he joined the fold of a crazy reverend is just a front, though not a very good one. He's had to distance himself from both to stave off unwanted inquiries.

Then also by your logic since I oppose the occupy movement I must be Conservative.
The subject is Obama and his support for Marxism. Nobody understands what you are talking about here, including you.
 
His earlier background has Islam written all over it. The fact that he joined the fold of a crazy reverend is just a front, though not a very good one. He's had to distance himself from both to stave off unwanted inquiries.


The subject is Obama and his support for Marxism. Nobody understands what you are talking about here, including you.



On the other hand, people can see only too plainly what you are talking about, and it's not the President's politics.
 
He is definitely Communists (yes he is multiple persons) because he saved a corporation which not only saved millions of jobs, but also upheld capitalistic competition. He also mandated we buy a service from a company of our choice just like auto insurance. Also he wants to raise taxes on rich people like the other Communist presidents did (like Reagan and Clinton). Lastly, and the most despicably, he doesn't allow oil drilling in protected lands which is obviously raising our gas prices even though oil production is rising. The only reason why he did that, and I use reason loosely, is to keep the oil companies from becoming wealthier because he figured if he couldn't take it away, he may as well cap it. Sound reasoning and I dare you to question it.


Note: I am obviously being higly sarcastic. Obama has done nothing that hints of being a Socialist. He may borrow ideas from somewhat Socialist policies but he is not a Socialist

You just contradicted yourself saying hes done nothing then admiting hes borrowed ideas.
 
Yes, there would be no US today if we had not split from Britain.

I was kinda talking about the civil war, how the US literally split into 2.
 
I was kinda talking about the civil war, how the US literally split into 2.

Then you are correct. That did not turn out very well because Lincoln ignored the basic human rights enshrined in the constitution. What I am suggesting this time is not actually using the military kill people to prohibit them from forming a new govt.
 
Then you are correct. That did not turn out very well because Lincoln ignored the basic human rights enshrined in the constitution. What I am suggesting this time is not actually using the military kill people to prohibit them from forming a new govt.

If you think the vitriol is bad now, do you honestly believe both sides will forgive and forget when the nation is split into two? With how polarized the US is right now the rhetoric would only get worse and there would most likely be another US civil war. I can tell you are quite adamant about your position so I leave you with this:

Good day sir :).
 
If you think the vitriol is bad now, do you honestly believe both sides will forgive and forget when the nation is split into two? With how polarized the US is right now the rhetoric would only get worse and there would most likely be another US civil war. I can tell you are quite adamant about your position so I leave you with this:

Good day sir :).

ok then.
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A great portion of that debt has been amassed through the payout of entitlements to those who are not in the upper class. :shrug:

But that's not all that the taxes go to. How do you know that the entire 1% taxes have gone to entitlements? There is quite a decent possibility that they have gone to everything, not just one category. It's the nation's problem, the nation to gether should work to fix it. Our tax code is broken. That needs to be fixed or completely rewritten ASAP
 
Obama wishes to raise income tax rates on the wealthy, something that the founder and father of Capitalism, Adam Smith, would have totally supported.
Nonsense.
In 900 plus pages Smith says once that there are things the wealthy should pay for. He did not say they should pay for most things.

The founders were brilliant men. But they were just men. They got many things right and a few things wrong. They provided a compromise that managed to hold the beast at bay for a very long time. But the beast is here now. If it cannot be tamed then, to quote Jefferson, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

I see that time coming. It will not be a civil war. It will be revolution again.
Only this time we may not be so fortunate as to have a George Washington around to save us from ourselves.
 
You have got to be kidding me.

It is a beautiful sound. Does that make me influenced by Islam? Heaven forbid I enjoy listening to it as I do my church's latin gregorian chanting.

Are you able to perfectly recite the call to evening prayer in Arabic? Are you able to recite any the Christian fundamental doctrines in Latin? Perfectly?
 
Are you able to perfectly recite the call to evening prayer in Arabic? Are you able to recite any the Christian fundamental doctrines in Latin? Perfectly?

No, because I am lazy on both accounts. I need to spend more time with relatives that are very much into that form of Latin.
 
Obama's endorsement of the nascent Occupy Movement was one of abject political miscalculation,
Are you saying that he lacks political sophistication sufficient to prevent him from siding with obnoxious street thugs? Awesome.
 
No, because I am lazy on both accounts. I need to spend more time with relatives that are very much into that form of Latin.
So you make my point Fiddy.

He can. And he did. If you are influenced by Christianity without being able to recite its doctrines in Latin how much more was he influenced given that he can recite the call to prayers, the pledge of allegiance to Islam in Arabic without being influenced?
 
So far he is just socialist.
 
Are you saying that he lacks political sophistication sufficient to prevent him from siding with obnoxious street thugs? Awesome.

I would suggest that he didn't have sufficient suspicion of populists and counter-cultures. He saw the Tea Party and wanted an equivalent message from the Left. It was still new enough to make it more difficult to predict that it would value arrests over political influence, but I had my cynical thoughts immediately.
 
Nonsense.
In 900 plus pages Smith says once that there are things the wealthy should pay for. He did not say they should pay for most things.

Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations, Book V: Of the Revenue of the Sovereign or Commonwealth,

"The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. A tax upon house-rents, therefore, would in general fall heaviest upon the rich; and in this sort of inequality there would not, perhaps, be anything very unreasonable. It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion"
 
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