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Should Hemp be legal?

Should Hemp be illegal?

  • Legalize it

    Votes: 23 95.8%

  • Keep it illegal

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 1 4.2%
  • Total voters
    24
Bigfoot 88

Bigfoot 88

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I used to hear that hemp was illegal because marijuana plants could be hidden within the fields, and it would undermine the "War on Drugs" because both plants are closely related. Now, I am against the War on Drugs anyways, but I just assumed that hemp would remain illegal unless marijuana became legal.

I will point out that hemp isn't technically illegal, but a federal law gives the Drug Enforcement Agency(DEA) the power to grant hemp farming permits, which is never does.

For all of the talk of marijuana being grown in hemp fields, I recently learned(and I should have thought of it earlier) that cross pollination between hemp and marijuana effectively destroys both crops, because it reduces the genetics of the plants by half. This pointed out during a press conference I watched, which featured Senator Rand Paul, the Kentucky Agriculture Commissioner, and a couple of State Senators. Therefore, the marijuana argument is invalid.

Why is hemp illegal then? Powerful business interests that don't like competition. It has tons of great uses, including ethanol, clothing, plastics, and food, among others.

Is there any legitimate reason why hemp shouldn't be legal?
 
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Who voted to keep it illegal? Why?
 
It's retarded to keep hemp illegal, even if you think marijuana should be illegal, you can't get high from hemp, and we can make everything from paper, to clothes, to plastic from hemp.
 
Bigfoot 88 said:
This pointed out during a press conference I watched, which featured Senator Rand Paul, the Kentucky Agriculture Commissioner, and a couple of State Senators. Therefore, the marijuana argument is invalid.
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Did you cross check anything? ;)
 
Legalize hemp, marijuana, and every other drug. It is stupid to keep them all illegal and is also a huge waste of money that we really don't have to be wasting
 
waas said:
What? Where in the world did you get that idea? :shock:
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I am hoping my internet sarcasm meter is working.

TheLastIndependent said:
Legalize hemp, marijuana, and every other drug. It is stupid to keep them all illegal and is also a huge waste of money that we really don't have to be wasting
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I agree, though hemp isn't a drug.
 
TheLastIndependent said:
Legalize hemp, marijuana, and every other drug. It is stupid to keep them all illegal and is also a huge waste of money that we really don't have to be wasting
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I agree, but only with the condition we stop providing all sorts of subsidized health care to those who abuse opioids, amphetamines, benzodiazepines, cocaine, sleep aids and various prescriptions and synthetics. Drugs should be legal, but so should the practice of denying addicts bailout money after their addictions ruin their lives. Abuse at your own risk.
 
Neomalthusian said:
I agree, but only with the condition we stop providing all sorts of subsidized health care to those who abuse opioids, amphetamines, benzodiazepines, cocaine, sleep aids and various prescriptions and synthetics. Drugs should be legal, but so should the practice of denying addicts bailout money after their addictions ruin their lives. Abuse at your own risk.
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Oh without a doubt. There is no funding to alcoholics and nicotine addicts unless they seek the help to get over them and it should be the same for any drug
 
Neomalthusian said:
I agree, but only with the condition we stop providing all sorts of subsidized health care to those who abuse opioids, amphetamines, benzodiazepines, cocaine, sleep aids and various prescriptions and synthetics. Drugs should be legal, but so should the practice of denying addicts bailout money after their addictions ruin their lives. Abuse at your own risk.
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So applying an "out of sight, out of mind" attitude to drug policy?
 
TheLastIndependent said:
Legalize hemp, marijuana, and every other drug. It is stupid to keep them all illegal and is also a huge waste of money that we really don't have to be wasting
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That's funny, I thought drugs were dangerous.
 
TheLastIndependent said:
Tobacco and alcohol are completely safe though :roll:
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I'm not implying they are. What you're saying is that just because tobacco and alcohol are legal, we should legalize literally every other drug, even the really dangerous ones?
 
waas said:
I'm not implying they are. What you're saying is that just because tobacco and alcohol are legal, we should legalize literally every other drug, even the really dangerous ones?
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People do them anyway.


Are you gonna do heroin and meth because they're legal? Probably not. Just because they're legal doesn't mean that people are gonna do them more
 
Bigfoot 88 said:
I used to hear that hemp was illegal because marijuana plants could be hidden within the fields, and it would undermine the "War on Drugs" because both plants are closely related. Now, I am against the War on Drugs anyways, but I just assumed that hemp would remain illegal unless marijuana became legal.

I will point out that hemp isn't technically illegal, but a federal law gives the Drug Enforcement Agency(DEA) the power to grant hemp farming permits, which is never does.

For all of the talk of marijuana being grown in hemp fields, I recently learned(and I should have thought of it earlier) that cross pollination between hemp and marijuana effectively destroys both crops, because it reduces the genetics of the plants by half. This pointed out during a press conference I watched, which featured Senator Rand Paul, the Kentucky Agriculture Commissioner, and a couple of State Senators. Therefore, the marijuana argument is invalid.

Why is hemp illegal then? Powerful business interests that don't like competition. It has tons of great uses, including ethanol, clothing, plastics, and food, among others.

Is there any legitimate reason why hemp shouldn't be legal?
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None. Another example of big biz misusing the power of government through undue influence.
 
TheLastIndependent said:
People do them anyway.


Are you gonna do heroin and meth because they're legal? Probably not. Just because they're legal doesn't mean that people are gonna do them more
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Fully incorrect. Many people shy away from these substances because they fear consequences. Are you implying that making drugs illegal does nothing to deter their use?
 
waas said:
Fully incorrect. Many people shy away from these substances because they fear consequences. Are you implying that making drugs illegal does nothing to deter their use?
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I wouldn't say nothing but it doesn't do much. I could get weed in under 5 minutes if I wanted to. I don't because I don't really want to do it. The law has no holding on that decision. I am fairly certain that I wouldn't get caught, I just don't do it
 
waas said:
So applying an "out of sight, out of mind" attitude to drug policy?
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Applying a "you're an adult and you don't get me to send me the bills your self sabotaging behaviors generate" policy toward personal liberty.
 
waas said:
Fully incorrect. Many people shy away from these substances because they fear consequences. Are you implying that making drugs illegal does nothing to deter their use?
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Might. But probably offset by the "forbidden fruit" element.

And dont get me started on the negative consequences of the govts deli erate disinformation campaigns. Telling kids pot is EXACTLY as dangerous as heroine.

So a kid succumbs to peer pressure and tries pot. Discovers he has been lied to. Assumes they were lying about heroine and...
 
TheLastIndependent said:
I wouldn't say nothing but it doesn't do much. I could get weed in under 5 minutes if I wanted to. I don't because I don't really want to do it. The law has no holding on that decision. I am fairly certain that I wouldn't get caught, I just don't do it
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And heroin? Opium? Cocaine? You honestly can't tell me the DEA has done nothing to quell the use of drugs...

This is from their website, it's a success report from 2011:

Impact on Demand (2000 through 2011):
Teen drug use:
650,000 fewer teenagers used illicit drugs last year than a decade earlier, a 15 percent decline.
Marijuana:
Current marijuana use by teens has dropped seven percent.
Methamphetamine:
Current methamphetamine use by teens has plummeted 67 percent.
Ecstasy:
Current use of Ecstasy has been slashed by 42 percent among teens.
Cocaine:
Current cocaine use among high school seniors has dropped 48 percent, and crack cocaine use has
decreased 50 percent.
Steroids:
Steroid use by teens has dropped by 44 percent.
LSD:
LSD use has dropped by an astounding 50 percent.
Workplace drug use:
Drug use among workers remains overall at its lowest level in more than 20 years. Since 1988,
positive drug tests have fallen by 72 percent, from 13.6 percent in 1988 to 3.6 percent in 2010.
Cocaine use among workers:
Cocaine use among America's general workforce declined an unprecedented 68 percent between
2006 and 2010.
Workplace marijuana use:
Workplace drug tests in America’s workforce in 2010 showed a 12.5 percent drop in marijuana
use compared to 2006.
 
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