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Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nukes?

  • yes

    Votes: 9 18.8%

  • no

    Votes: 39 81.3%
  • Total voters
    48
  • Poll closed .
PrometheusBound said:
"Inflation-adjusted" doesn't apply to this graft. OPEC price-gouging caused all that inflation. With this in mind, the left side of the graph should start at $2 a barrel. The graft's economists' gimmick proves that the self-appointed experts are just shills for sheiks.
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OPEC's 17 crude price basket is always less the North Sea Crude or Texas crude.
 
specklebang said:
Look, I'm not an Iran fan. However, our involvement with the Shah and our subsequent poor diplomatic efforts don';t earn us a gold medal either.

One thing I've learned through life is that being "right" is not always as valuable as being "smart".

Lets say we approached Iran and said "look, we're sorry for pissing you off. We feel we may have done the wrong thing. We'd like to try to start over with a clean slate. We have a lot to offer you and if you'll hold off on your bomb-biz for 3 years, we'll trade with you, tour you, exchange education with you and help you develop nuclear plants if you want us to. All we ask is to give all this another try.Not only that, but we'll throw some money at the Palestinians and we'll tell Israel that building one more ****ing settlement will cost them their foreign aid."

So, maybe it works - yowser. Maybe they tell us to **** off - hey, we really tried. It's LOGICAL to try to avoid killing 10s of thousands of people, isn't it?

So, maybe you say "sure Mr. Logical, and what if they say yes but they sneak around and build a nuke?". Well, it's not as if we don't have about 3,000 nukes ourselves and we'll be incapable of defending ourselves.

Just a speculative opinion of course.....
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The next American who goes off on an Apology Tour should not be let back in. Let Big Brotherhood find him a home.
 
Iran is not going to use a nuclear missile on us. The Iranian administration might say some crazy things, but they're not suicidal.
 
Catawba said:
Thanks but no thanks, we just got finished with an almost decade long goose chase in Iraq that cost us more lives than were lost on 9/11 and a couple trillion dollars of taxpayer money.
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Why bring 9/11 into this? The issue is Iran and nuclear weapons.

I offered an alternative to bombs and even that you reject. It appears you wish for Iran to have nuclear weapon capability and an arsenal which to launch at their whim.
 
Serenity said:
Those numbers of nuclear weapons are obscene and insane. There's thousands kept on alert and ready to be launched within minutes.

When you consider that current day thermonuclear weapons are more powerful than the two bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and knowing the devastation inflicted on them as a nation, why do these Countries have stockpiles in the thousands?

It's a mad world.
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The article also states, "the graph does not take into account that in many cases the missiles themselves may contain up to 12 warheads, nor does it take into account the size or kilo tonnage of the weapons themselves".

This world could never withstand launching all those missiles there would nothing but a barren wasteland afterward.
 
I understand your emotions but sometimes wisdom is not doing what we feel, but what brings the best results.

I've apologized to people who I thought were in the wrong. I did this for the greater good of the situation, particularly situations that affect others indirectly. I didn't want to but I had to make a judgement that included other possible victims of the circumstance.

With millions of lives at stake, both ours and theirs, every alternative to combat should be explored.


PrometheusBound said:
The next American who goes off on an Apology Tour should not be let back in. Let Big Brotherhood find him a home.
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comedy4all said:
First of all America is not the only one with the bomb. I say let them have the nuclear bomb, and after Iran and Israel use them against each other the area will be devastated. This can only be a good thing for us here in America. The pesky problem of the people in the Middle East will be solved now that they are all irradiated. The Oil Supply for the world would come from north and South America (more money for us). We also could take over whatever we want to go over there under the guise of it being a humanitarian mission. Let’s not be stingy now; share the nukes.
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imperialism is for you..enjoy it...
 
Connery said:
That is not so. Here is a story and a graphic of the various arsenals around the world.

The world’s nuclear missiles

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World’s nuclear arsenal graphic | News | National Post
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but those nations dont try to accuse the other nations of having nuke and they dont claim to be world power .)))))))))))

also they dont threaten to bomb those countries either .)))
 
Connery said:
Why bring 9/11 into this? The issue is Iran and nuclear weapons.

I offered an alternative to bombs and even that you reject. It appears you wish for Iran to have nuclear weapon capability and an arsenal which to launch at their whim.
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You mean your suggestion here:

"The US should go in there kick some ass, take some names and go through these underground nuclear facilities and determine once and for all what they are doing down there. Enough talk, enough delays. If Iran is developing nuclear weapons take capability away from them."

We just made the same mistake in Iraq. Unless, we learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it.
 
Medusa said:
but those nations dont try to accuse the other nations of having nuke and they dont claim to be world power .)))))))))))

also they dont threaten to bomb those countries either .)))
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Several of those countries have stated that Iran, the other country in this instance, is working on developing nuclear weapons. "Under an offer that the United States and its Western allies, along with Russia, presented to Iran privately in late spring, Tehran would be allowed to retain some enrichment capability if it turned over its entire stockpile of 20 percent-enriched uranium and answered the questions posed by international inspectors about evidence that it has worked on a weapon."

Iran's Nuclear Program (Nuclear Talks, 2012)


As far as countries claiming to be a world power I have not thought about that.
 
Catawba said:
You mean your suggestion here:

"The US should go in there kick some ass, take some names and go through these underground nuclear facilities and determine once and for all what they are doing down there. Enough talk, enough delays. If Iran is developing nuclear weapons take capability away from them."

We just made the same mistake in Iraq. Unless, we learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it.
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Circular reasoning and nonsense as usual, but, never a viable response.
 
sharon said:
LOLOL.. and how would you do that? We couldn't secure the highway between the airport and Baghdad in a country crippled by war and sanctions for two decades.
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That was because of touch-feely nation-building sissiness, when Big Brotherhood's multicultie Rules of Engagement break our trigger fingers and expect us to carry out a military mission regardless. Free to fight, we took over the Iraqi oilfields in a few days, just as we easily took the Kuwaiti oilfields in the Gulf War. Then the multicultie traitors made us give them back to the rabid Arab rabble.
 
Connery said:
Circular reasoning and nonsense as usual.
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I cannot condone preemptive wars against less powerful nations that have not attacked us. It was a mistake with Vietnam, Iraq, and it would be a mistake with Iran.

You may view learning from history as circular reasoning, I do not.
 
Catawba said:
I cannot condone preemptive wars against less powerful nations that have not attacked us.
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How does 'them' being a more powerful nation change anything?
 
Catawba said:
I cannot condone preemptive wars against less powerful nations that have not attacked us. It was a mistake with Vietnam, Iraq, and it would be a mistake with Iran.
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No war Catawba an inspection, by force if necessary.

You may view learning from history as circular reasoning, I do not.
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It pains me to read this kind of stuff as I have to write a response. This is the response: Your statement as it pertains to me is nonsense. I was a history major, history honor society delivering papers to an international audience of other history honor societies....I could go on, however, what is the sense. Please do not prejudge me when posting it makes you look like a dullard...
 
ecofarm said:
How does 'them' being a more powerful nation change anything?
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I was taught not to pick on those weaker than myself. How about you?
 
Connery said:
No war Catawba an inspection, by force if necessary.
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That would be an act of war.

It pains me to read this kind of stuff as I have to write a response. This is the response: Your statement as it pertains to me is nonsense. I was a history major, history honor society delivering papers to an international audience of other history honor societies....I could go on, however, what is the sense. Please do not prejudge me when posting it makes you look like a dullard...
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It pains me that you would ignore our recent similar experience in Iraq. It makes you look like you a cretin.
 
Catawba said:
I cannot condone preemptive wars against less powerful nations that have not attacked us. It was a mistake with Vietnam, Iraq, and it would be a mistake with Iran.

You may view learning from history as circular reasoning, I do not.
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How about annexing their undeserved oilfields only and evicting the natives from only that part of their land? That's similar to what we did to the Indians in America and it suits me fine, despite the Columbus-phobes. Nation-building in Vietnam, Iraq and other places has been a dry hole. Disable the natives and let them go back to the tribal jigsaw puzzle their level of civilization fits them for.
 
Catawba said:
I was taught not to pick on those weaker than myself. How about you?
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My principles don't depend on which side has more people. Do you support pedos?
 
PrometheusBound said:
How about annexing their undeserved oilfields only and evicting the natives from only that part of their land? That's similar to what we did to the Indians in America and it suits me fine, despite the Columbus-phobes. Nation-building in Vietnam, Iraq and other places has been a dry hole. Disable the natives and let them go back to the tribal jigsaw puzzle their level of civilization fits them for.
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Not a believer in property rights?
 
Catawba said:
That would be an act of war.
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It would prevent a more grave, deadly situation.



It pains me that you would ignore our recent similar experience in Iraq. It makes you look like you a cretin.
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I understand your description as you feel that anyone who does not agree with you is beneath you. Pity.....
 
Should we start a war to prevent war?

An interesting question.
 
ecofarm said:
My principles don't depend on which side has more people. Do you support pedos?
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What are you talking about? You must have responded to another's post. What I said was that I was taught not to pick on people weaker than me. How about you?
 
Catawba said:
What are you talking about? You must have responded to another's post. What I said was that I was taught not to pick on people weaker than me. How about you?
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I was taught that principles do not depend on who has more power. How about you?
 
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