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Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nukes?

  • yes

    Votes: 9 18.8%

  • no

    Votes: 39 81.3%
  • Total voters
    48
  • Poll closed .
earthworm said:
Not meant to be "funny".
Do you know what the "Arab Spring" is ?
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nK is totally locked out of reality. No internet permitted. They're not risin' up anytime soon, and there ain't sht we can do to help them. Iran will be the same if it gets nukes.
 
ecofarm said:
"Everyone should have them". That's what you said. And it is a patently moronic position.
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Unfortunately, either no one should have nukes or everyone should have them.

I never thought it would come to this.. For 50 years the Saudis, Kuwaitis etc have demanded a nuke free ME.. and now this.

Did you read the post about Amman?

Must have been 1998 Bibi had a plan drafted called "Clean Break Strategy" which was a blue print for israel to dominate the region for the new century.

Its a lose-lose agenda. The best thing for Israel would be peace and commerce. The best thing would be if the neighbors were stable and prosperous and were not competing for water.

Instead the dynamic goes the other way.. Israel is afraid the neighbors might be stable and prosperous.
 
Why do you think everyone should have nukes?
 
ecofarm said:
Why do you think everyone should have nukes?
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I don't think she has figured out yet that since various countries already have nukes, logic would dictate she is advocating all should have them.

Not everybody is capable of anything approaching reason as many are just in the habit of saying things.
 
ecofarm said:
Why do you think everyone should have nukes?
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Because it would insure peace in the region..

Personally, I think its a huge waste of money when they could be building more dams and nuclear power and desalination plants... or more massive solar investment.. But if one country can intimidate with nukes, their only option is to get their own nukes.

Look at the problem with Amman.
 
Gard, you're wrong. She's got it 'figured out' and still thinks it's a good idea. Sure, she's ignoring the fact that it would be closing the wall on millions of perfectly useful humans, and damning them to generations of darkness and suffering. But hey, as long as we got peace then fk them, right?

No, sharon.

Me say war.
 
ecofarm said:
Gard, you're wrong. She's got it 'figured out' and still thinks it's a good idea.

Sure, she's ignoring the fact that it would be closing the wall on millions of perfectly useful humans, and damning them to generations of darkness and suffering. But hey, as long as we got peace then fk them, right?

No, sharon.

Me say war.
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Who are you talking about.. and what is this "darkness".

I never experienced any darkness in Amman, Beirut, Tripoli, Damascus, Baghdad or Riyahd.
 
No need for us to do it, Isreal will take care of that.
 
sharon said:
Who are you talking about.. and what is this "darkness".

I never experienced any darkness in Amman, Beirut, Tripoli, Damascus, Baghdad or Riyahd.
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Well, I guess if you've inspected them, we'll just take them off the human rights abuse list. Thanks.


tech30528 said:
No need for us to do it, Isreal will take care of that.
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My favorite defense of Iran.
 
Everyone should have the bomb?

Man, that goes against my position that NO ONE should have that kind of destructive power.

If everyone had a bomb...then some crazy government would get hot hands and press the button which would cause their target to press the button and so on and so forth.

If there was no button to press....get my point?

The type of destructive power held in today's bombs are unimaginable. They make the two dropped in Japan pale in comparison. It would serve our world better to get rid of all of them. It will never happen, but that would be the best idea.
 
ecofarm said:
Gard, you're wrong. She's got it 'figured out' and still thinks it's a good idea. .
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Well, you do have to admit that a genocide of Jews in the middle east WILL bring about that much-desired peace in the region, so she is certainly correct in pointing out that making sure all genocidal antisemites have them would achieve that end.
 
AreteCourage said:
Everyone should have the bomb?

Man, that goes against my position that NO ONE should have that kind of destructive power.

If everyone had a bomb...then some crazy government would get hot hands and press the button which would cause their target to press the button and so on and so forth.

If there was no button to press....get my point?

The type of destructive power held in today's bombs are unimaginable. They make the two dropped in Japan pale in comparison. It would serve our world better to get rid of all of them. It will never happen, but that would be the best idea.
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Oh I agree.. but we don't have control over every country that chooses to intimidate another.
 
AreteCourage said:
It would serve our world better to get rid of all of them. It will never happen, but that would be the best idea.
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See bolded, then everyone gets them? Does that seem reasonable to you, to justify Iran getting not just refining to 20% but actual nuclear weapons. That's what she's supporting and that is the ground upon which she stands.
 
Gardener said:
Well, you do have to admit that a genocide of Jews in the middle east WILL bring about that much-desired peace in the region, so she is certainly correct in pointing out that making sure all genocidal antisemites have them would achieve that end.
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Genocide?

The peace plan guaranteed Israel's security.. also trade and diplomatic relations as well as recognition. All 22 Arab states signed on with Syria being the last.
 
Despite it being my favorite defense of Iran, I think this thread has enough Israel. Wanna go ML? Otherwise I think we drop it.

Still in play:

1. The US nuked civilians, so what is it worried about.
3. ? I forget the other argument.
 
listener said:
That is the question
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Wouldn't threats of bombing/invasion of Iran to prevent them from obtaining nukes only lend itself to the credibility that Iran should develop nukes?
 
The other argument:

3. Iran getting nukes is only fair. But I don't think anyone except sharon is taking that seriously.

That leaves (1.) the a-bombs which, for Japan, were a roaring success. Japan went from suicidal backwards god-king to developed liberal western democracy in a couple generations.
 
ecofarm said:
The other argument:

3. Iran getting nukes is only fair. But I don't think anyone except sharon is taking that seriously.

That leaves (1.) the a-bombs which, for Japan, were a roaring success. Japan went from suicidal backwards god-king to developed liberal western democracy in a couple generations.
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Oh... I would much prefer that Iran didn't get nuclear weapons because if they do, the GCC will have no choice but to get their own nuclear weapons.
 
ecofarm said:
See bolded, then everyone gets them? Does that seem reasonable to you, to justify Iran getting not just refining to 20% but actual nuclear weapons. That's what she's supporting and that is the ground upon which she stands.
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Nope. I disagree with everyone getting them, but at the same time....I disagree with the U.S. dictating who gets one and who doesn't. We got bigger problems then Tehran. We need to worry about paying the interest on our debt before we worry about Iran.
 
Connery said:
Obviously people do listen to this man's opinion. However, his opinion or analysis does not render my view worthless.

The US should go in there kick some ass, take some names and go through these underground nuclear facilities and determine once and for all what they are doing down there. Enough talk, enough delays. If Iran is developing nuclear weapons take capability away from them.

BTW your expert can come along and garner information for his next book...:)
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Thanks but no thanks, we just got finished with an almost decade long goose chase in Iraq that cost us more lives than were lost on 9/11 and a couple trillion dollars of taxpayer money.
 
Catawba said:
Thanks but no thanks, we just got finished with an almost decade long goose chase in Iraq that cost us more lives than were lost on 9/11 and a couple trillion dollars of taxpayer money.
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Why compare it to 911? Let's compare it to the Iraq/Iran war, the genocide of the Kurds, his invasion and plans for Kuwait, the genocide of the marsh Arabs or the sale of food-for-oil. Let's compare it to the number of people and families that 'disappeared' under Saddam; oh wait, we can't, because no international witness was allowed.
 
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