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Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nukes?

  • yes

    Votes: 9 18.8%

  • no

    Votes: 39 81.3%
  • Total voters
    48
  • Poll closed .
specklebang said:
How would we know where these facilities are? If I were them, I'd have them well hidden. Or, they may not even exist. So, where to bomb and with what types of weaponry. They DO have a military, I don't know if its much of one or not. I still think we should go with The Logical Party approach first.
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This is why we have spies, spy satellites, and spy planes, bud.
 
Gardener said:
Got it.

So You AREN'T at all interested in all human life, but merely in predictably dogmatic posturing.
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I am, but how are we Israel and why should we fight their wars? I asked you to provide a source for when they threatened us, The United States.

I see that same viewpoint on many neo nazi and Islamist websites, so his is not alone.
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Are you implying that I am a Neo-Nazi/Islamist?
 
ecofarm said:
Except for people who want world freedom and those suffering under murderous tyranny. Anyway, I can sympathize with many reservations regarding going to war with Iran but "who gives a crap about Israel" is not one of them.
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Well that is not MY reason.
 
I think RP hit the nail on the head about Iran. We keep menacing them so they want to menace us.

I bet if we had elected RP (fat chance), Iran wouldn't waste the money on building nukes. We'll never know, will we.


Catawba said:
Not more than it seems Israel and the US hate them, and Israel as well as the US already have nuclear weapons. If I were Iran, I would want them too!
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Goshin said:
Maybe so... but I think it was exactly what you meant, and I think it reveals a great deal about where your sympathies are... and where they aren't.
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I don't sympathize with governments who start wars or who threaten to start them, I don't support Iran in the slightest, either, but I don't believe it's any of our businesses to attack them when they don't threaten us.
 
Das Sozialist said:
I am, but how are we Israel and why should we fight their wars? I asked you to provide a source for when they threatened us, The United States.



Are you implying that I am a Neo-Nazi/Islamist?
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I was responding to your insincere posturing in regards to your supposed concern for human life. It is obvious that these concerns do not extend to the potential Jewish targets.


As to whether you are an Islamist or Neo nazi, I am calling you neither. You simply share the same views in what you have stated.
 
ChrisL said:
Well that is not MY reason.
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It was the reasoning in the post(s) I quoted that you quoted. I just wanted to be clear what I was addressing, and what was the source of your comment. "Fk Israel" is not an anti-war position that I sympathize with.
 
Das Sozialist said:
I don't sympathize with governments who start wars or who threaten to start them, I don't support Iran in the slightest, either, but I don't believe it's any of our businesses to attack them when they don't threaten us.
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If they'd stop threatening us and our allies, you might have a point. But they've been doing so verbally for a long time, and we know they're not Western-style rational-materialists, and there is plentiful evidence that they are looking to make nuclear weapons. Put that combo together and to me it spells "preemptive strike".
 
Goshin said:
So you assert that Israel is merely a puppet of the USA? Interesting that you express that view in that manner.
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That seems to be a fairly common assumption by those who identify as socialists (and a good number of self-identified liberals, who don't have an actual grasp of liberal concepts) in this, and other parts of the world.
 
Gardener said:
I was responding to your insincere posturing in regards to your supposed concern for human life. It is obvious that these concerns do not extend to the potential Jewish targets.


As to whether you are an Islamist or Neo nazi, I am calling you neither. You simply share the same views in what you have stated.
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The same views as an Islamist/Neo-Nazi? How? Because I don't support fighting another country's war?

I could care less if they were Jewish, Christian, or Buddhist, we shouldn't fight their wars, and we shouldn't strike someone preemptively because they could do something.
 
lizzie said:
That seems to be a fairly common assumption by those who identify as socialists (and a good number of self-identified liberals, who don't have an actual grasp of liberal concepts) in this, and other parts of the world.
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Worded that way, it is kind of a telling remark.... like when a man unthinkingly spits out "the N word" then suddenly says "oops, I didn't mean to say that..."


Oh hell yes you meant it... you just didnt' want present-company to HEAR it... but it is indicative of where someone's mind is.
 
lizzie said:
That seems to be a fairly common assumption by those who identify as socialists (and a good number of self-identified liberals, who don't have an actual grasp of liberal concepts) in this, and other parts of the world.
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THis really idiotic defense of Islamists represents almost a paradigm shift in the meaning of terms as far as I'm concerned. Not only do these unthinking, knee-jerk leftist fundies have no concept whatsoever as to the meaning of these political terms, they actually represent their near antithesis in what they actually represent.
 
Goshin said:
If they'd stop threatening us and our allies, you might have a point. But they've been doing so verbally for a long time, and we know they're not Western-style rational-materialists, and there is plentiful evidence that they are looking to make nuclear weapons. Put that combo together and to me it spells "preemptive strike".
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Ahmadinejad hasn't threatened the United States. Plenty of radicals within Iran have, sure, but they don't control the Nuclear Armaments or the Iranian Regime.
 
No war with Iran!!
Why?
Fk Israel!!
Well, that's not a reason.
Damn money-grabbing, gold-hoarding big nose breathing all the good air Jews!!
What?
Leave Iran alone!!


That doesn't work for me.
 
specklebang said:
How would we know where these facilities are? If I were them, I'd have them well hidden. Or, they may not even exist. So, where to bomb and with what types of weaponry. They DO have a military, I don't know if its much of one or not. I still think we should go with The Logical Party approach first.
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We'll just have to bomb some extra locations where they might be hiding the stuff. We must stand by our friends in Israel.
 
Gardener said:
THis really idiotic defense of Islamists represents almost a paradigm shift in the meaning of terms as far as I'm concerned. Not only do these unthinking, knee-jerk leftist fundies have no concept whatsoever as to the meaning of these political terms, they actually represent their near antithesis in what they actually represent.
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I would suggest that perhaps Liberalism 101 should be offered in schools, except that I have my doubts that there are any qualified teachers who actually understand what it is anymore.
 
ChrisL said:
So now you're saying you WANT them to have nuclear weapons? I hope you're joking. I'm sorry but IMO that is just crazy talk.
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How about just reading what I said. I said if I were Iran, I would want them too.
 
sharon said:
So as not to be intimidated.
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Seems to me that they are the ones who are always doing the intimidating. They willfully and maliciously kill their own citizens.
 
Catawba said:
For the same reason we feel we need them.
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Yes, but their leaders definitely have a questionable agenda. To deny that would be just naive. Don't you think?
 
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