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Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nuclear weapons

Should we bomb Iran to prevent their getting nukes?

  • yes

    Votes: 9 18.8%
  • no

    Votes: 39 81.3%

  • Total voters
    48
  • Poll closed .
This is what I don't get. You will rail against the slightest bit of religion in the US, but a totalitarian theocracy you have no trouble with (even them getting nukes). Where's the consistency?


This particularly glaring hypocrisy seems to be a VERY consistent feature of these forums.
 
Why is it too late? Why does it not matter now?


NK is known to already have nukes and to have detonated a couple. The best window of opportunity has already passed. WE should not make the same mistake twice...
 
This particularly glaring hypocrisy seems to be a VERY consistent feature of these forums.

Well I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't want the U.S. to kill the citizens. It's the government that's the problem, not the citizens (or not the majority of the citizens anyway). This issue has nothing to do with religion for me.
 
"Those in the United States who genuinely yearn for war are still a neoconservative minority. But the danger that war might break out—and that the hawks will get their way—has nonetheless become substantial. The U.S. has just withdrawn the last troops from one Middle Eastern country where it fought a highly costly war of choice with a rationale involving weapons of mass destruction. Now we find ourselves on the precipice of yet another such war—almost purely because the acceptable range of opinion on Iran has narrowed and ossified around the “sensible” idea that all options must be pursued to prevent the country from acquiring nuclear weapons.

Given the momentousness of such an endeavor and how much prominence the Iranian nuclear issue has been given, one might think that talk about exercising the military option would be backed up by extensive analysis of the threat in question and the different ways of responding to it. But it isn’t. Strip away the bellicosity and political rhetoric, and what one finds is not rigorous analysis but a mixture of fear, fanciful speculation, and crude stereotyping. There are indeed good reasons to oppose Iranian acquisition of nuclear weapons, and likewise many steps the United States and the international community can and should take to try to avoid that eventuality. But an Iran with a bomb would not be anywhere near as dangerous as most people assume, and a war to try to stop it from acquiring one would be less successful, and far more costly, than most people imagine."

The Washington Monthly - The Magazine - We Can Live with a Nuclear Iran
 
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Why is it too late? Why does it not matter now?



NK is complex. For one thing the NKs have an enormous amount of conventional artillery stationed within range of Seoul, the capital of SK. The NKs boast that this array of artillery could utterly destroy Seoul within 20 minutes of the start of any military action. The SK's are therefore pretty nervous about the idea of resuming hostilities.


At this point it is generally not believed that the NK's have a nuke small enough to fit on a missle, but there is always some uncertainty about intel. They do appear to have functional nukes however, and there are other ways to use them besides putting them on a missle.

The thing is once a "rogue nation" HAS nukes, dealing with them just became an order of magnitude more dangerous.... because they might well USE them.
 
I don't think anyone knows what they would do with nuclear weapons. I do have to ask myself why do they want them though.
 
I don't think anyone knows what they would do with nuclear weapons. I do have to ask myself why do they want them though.

I'm guessing for the same reason we want to keep them.
 
I'm guessing for the same reason we want to keep them.

You still have to wonder if they have intentions against Israel though. They DO hate Israel.
 
I'd want nuclear weapons too if I was being publicly threatened by a superpower and it's puppet.

We haven't made any declarations of war against Iran.
 
We haven't, but we've publicly announced we may launch a preemptive strike against them.

Yes, but that was after all of these nuclear bomb issues.
 
I'd want nuclear weapons too if I was being publicly threatened by a superpower and it's puppet.


So you assert that Israel is merely a puppet of the USA? Interesting that you express that view in that manner.
 
I understand your point. Apparently, we allowed this to happen and it gets very little press.

So, how do you propose handling Iran? Do we just attack and blow up everything that moves? Seems like we have no more way of preventing this than we do with NK. Add India and Pakistan into the mix and it seems like you can't prevent them but nobody dares use them.




NK is complex. For one thing the NKs have an enormous amount of conventional artillery stationed within range of Seoul, the capital of SK. The NKs boast that this array of artillery could utterly destroy Seoul within 20 minutes of the start of any military action. The SK's are therefore pretty nervous about the idea of resuming hostilities.


At this point it is generally not believed that the NK's have a nuke small enough to fit on a missle, but there is always some uncertainty about intel. They do appear to have functional nukes however, and there are other ways to use them besides putting them on a missle.

The thing is once a "rogue nation" HAS nukes, dealing with them just became an order of magnitude more dangerous.... because they might well USE them.
 
I understand your point. Apparently, we allowed this to happen and it gets very little press.

So, how do you propose handling Iran? Do we just attack and blow up everything that moves? Seems like we have no more way of preventing this than we do with NK. Add India and Pakistan into the mix and it seems like you can't prevent them but nobody dares use them.


Attacking and destroying Iran's nuclear facilities will not be easy but it can be done; naturally we should make every reasonable effort to minimize civilian casualties and target our strikes as precisely as possible.
 
I don't see how you can say that. You really don't know unless you're privy to government secrets. I'm sure any action Israel takes as an ally isn't announced in the news.

You mean like the time Israel bombed the USS Liberty then claimed it was an accident?
 
We're Israel? Since when?

And Rafsanjani is an adviser, his opinions matter little when it comes to foreign policy.


Got it.

So You AREN'T at all interested in all human life, but merely in predictably dogmatic posturing.
 
Puppet may have been the wrong word to use.


Maybe so... but I think it was exactly what you meant, and I think it reveals a great deal about where your sympathies are... and where they aren't.
 
So you assert that Israel is merely a puppet of the USA? Interesting that you express that view in that manner.

I see that same viewpoint on many neo nazi and Islamist websites, so his is not alone.
 
You still have to wonder if they have intentions against Israel though. They DO hate Israel.

Not more than it seems Israel and the US hate them, and Israel as well as the US already have nuclear weapons. If I were Iran, I would want them too!
 
How would we know where these facilities are? If I were them, I'd have them well hidden. Or, they may not even exist. So, where to bomb and with what types of weaponry. They DO have a military, I don't know if its much of one or not. I still think we should go with The Logical Party approach first.

Attacking and destroying Iran's nuclear facilities will not be easy but it can be done; naturally we should make every reasonable effort to minimize civilian casualties and target our strikes as precisely as possible.
 
Not more than it seems Israel and the US hate them, and Israel as well as the US already have nuclear weapons. If I were Iran, I would want them too!

So now you're saying you WANT them to have nuclear weapons? I hope you're joking. I'm sorry but IMO that is just crazy talk.
 
It would be good if nobody got bombed.

Except for people who want world freedom and those suffering under murderous tyranny. Anyway, I can sympathize with many reservations about going to war with Iran but "who gives a crap about Israel" is not one of them.
 
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