gotta run to work - but you can't both run by telling blacks that evil white men are out to "put them back in chains" and run by telling whites that evil blacks are out to, I don't know, do whatever evil blacks would do.
Well why don't they just use some OTHER Jedi mind trick to brainwash the white voters then? If the Jedi mind tricks have been so effective on black voters that they routinely get 95% of the vote, surely they'd be able to find one that works on white voters at least, say, 60% of the time. No?
I don't know, you would have to ask the african american spokesmen and women who have described it. But if I had to hazard a guess I would propose that the atrocious public school system that we doom a larger percentage of our african american populace to has something to do with it, as does our push decades ago to get a larger percentage of the african american populace on public assistance. people on the dole will vote for the party of the dole.
But black voters vote Democrat to a much greater extent than white voters at every level of the income and educational ladder. Not just poor people in failing schools on welfare.
not really. like older people being more susceptible to mediscare, african americans are more susceptible to blaming the ills of the world on racism.
Except the elderly split their votes roughly 50-50...in fact, they may even be trending slightly Republican. So why have at least some of the old voters been able to see through the Democrats' Jedi mind tricks, but almost none of the black voters have?
yes. they are generally called "oreos", "house n-----rs", "aunt jemima's", and all other sorts of pleasant names.
Although this is somewhat true and it is offensive, it doesn't answer the basic question. Why do those labels exist in the first place, and why have they had such an impact on the political cohesion of black voters? No other race or major voting bloc votes with margins like 95-5.
So 30-40%, much like the 5%, still fail to see that the Democrats hate them because that's how sneaky Democrats are. You manage to keep your hatred of the elderly quiet, you use dog-whistles that only other ageists can hear.
If there was a large contingent of elderly people actually making this claim, I'd probably take it a bit more seriously. As would Democratic politicians. I highly doubt they'd tell the elderly voters "**** you, nothing we said was offensive, it's all in your imagination." Which is essentially the Republican response to complaints from black voters about their racially charged rhetoric.
and Republicans have plenty of minorities in their ranks as well. Democrat "tokens" and "self-hating older white men" don't excuse their bias.
This is simply not the case. White male seniors not only account for a substantial number of Democratic politicians, they account for more than what their demographics would suggest. Whereas I can count the number of prominent black Republicans on one hand, and a couple of those people are well known ONLY because they are black Republicans (e.g. Herman Cain). But I guess when you're only working with 5% of the black voting population from which to draw your candidates, the talent pool is quite a bit smaller than on the other side of the aisle.
yes, and Republicans talk about education reform, which black voters actually (deeply) care about, and traditional marriage, which black voters overwhelmingly support.
They RARELY talk about education reform in any context, and they usually only talk about anti-gay policies around other white people. It's rare for a Republican politician to make a serious play for the black vote by talking about these (or any other) issues. If they DID talk about those things by seriously engaging black voters, and if they toned down their nasty rhetoric on other issues, then I think that they WOULD do quite a bit better among black voters.
that is because the coded language exists only in your imagination.
however, I can play this game too: whenever Demcorats talk about the great things that obamacare is going to do for us, they are talking about the IPAB (ie: the Death Panel) finally getting rid of older voters who do not support their party. When they talk about finding "efficiencies" in Medicare, this is a dog-whistle to the other ageists out there; it gets them all riled up, and fires up the Democrat base, which secretly hates the elderly, but can't come out and openly say it.
Here's the thing: With Republicans using racist dog whistles, it's NOT just in my imagination. Lots of other people have come to the same conclusion, including lots of members of the affected minority group (i.e. blacks). And when Republicans are called on it, they
don't stop doing it. Whereas your alleged Democratic slight against white-male-senior voters does not seem to be on the minds of actual white male seniors. And if it was, the Democrats would almost certainly listen to their concerns and stop whatever rhetoric they found offensive, if for no other reason than they wouldn't want to lose their votes.
no, it doesn't. firstly, for this debate, you had shelby steele (who is black) telling chris matthews (who is white) that he was nuts because the white guy was choosing to try to make a story about racism.
I don't know anything about this exchange...I don't know who Shelby Steele is, and I find Chris Matthews quite annoying. But in any case, the race of the two individuals is irrelevant to the national issue of racism. Which of them was more accurately representing the view of a large majority of the African-American community?
To the extent that blacks do see this debate as racially charged it is because of people like Matthews and yourself who have a vested interest in ensuring that they do.
No, you have it completely backwards. People like myself (or I assume Chris Matthews) have no stake of our own in this. *I* am not the one who Republicans are attacking with these views. Many members of the black community have shared their concerns about racial overtones in various subjects. Republican politicians know perfectly well that those concerns exist, and yet make no effort whatsoever to change the way they talk about those subjects. This shows that 1) it's not just an isolated, innocuous mistake, and 2) they don't have much respect for the opinions of black voters.
not really - intelligent people can be brainwashed as well. nor does it call into question someones' genetic ability; not when we are sending african american kids to the schools that we do. but the idea that herman caine is as racist against black people is ridiculous as the notion that I am racist against white 30 year olds.
This is not true at all. If a person associates a negative stereotype with a certain race, then they are being racist. It doesn't matter whether that race is their own or a different race. (Another example: Both black and white police officers are more likely to pull over black drivers for the same infraction in the same neighborhood.) In Herman Cain's case - as with many other Republican politicians - it isn't necessarily that they are racist themselves. They may just be pandering to racist voters, which is hardly a big improvement.
we talk about the food stamp president to the population at large,
The point is that Republicans want to talk about this kind of garbage, which they KNOW that many black voters find offensive, rather than issues that might actually appeal to them like school choice.
That is sad, but I guess it shouldn't be particularly surprising. I guess it's just too new of a political issue for voters to have really understood what it does.
what, you mean like for example if he thought that finally a nice, clean black guy had come along who spoke with no negro dialect unless he wanted to?
Exactly. There are plenty of racist Democrats too. Another more subtle example was how the media fawned in 2008 about how Obama "transcended race." I think this was intended as a compliment, but it just highlights the fact that many racists can vote for a black candidate specifically BECAUSE they don't think that negative stereotypes about the candidate's race apply to him.
