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If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody[W:56]

If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody rights?


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Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

Why is this even a discussion? Women who are raped more than anybody else should have the right to get rid of that disgusting memory leaching their emotional and physical health.
 
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What's really insane is that good fathers often have to fight tooth and nail just to get a couple weekends a month. But a rapist is entitled to it? Just blows me out of the water.

I know. It boggles the mind Smoke. In both situations, gross inequities do happen when it's demonstrably in the interest of the child protect them from a bad or dangerous parent. In the instance of a rape, they shouldn't even be able to file suit.
 
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I'm in favor of situational "common sense" statutory laws. This is one area where the law can't afford to be a big, dumb hammer. Putting someone on a sex offender list is not a joke, and someone shouldn't be condemned to that for dating a sophomore when they were a senior. That's ridiculous.

Although personally, I don't think we should need sex offender registries, because I don't think rapists should ever see the light of day again. But that's just me.
That's pretty close to my position.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

though I have to ask, does the 17 year old boy & 15 year old girl who get caught by mom and dad, and then they hang the boy out to dry ... does that follow the same guidelines? in that case I might say maybe.

but any rape where there is violence in any sense of the word (mental, emotional, physical) then I stand by AWWWW.... HELL NO !!!! for the sake of both the mother and the child.
 
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I just found out the following:


Now, I am thoroughly disgusted. I am disgusted because I don't think a woman should not be forced to interact with her rapist for the rest of her life. Moreover, I don't think a child should be, even partially, raised by someone so disgusting and who has an inherently toxic relationship with them and their mother.

Do you agree or disagree?

I would think that if a man raped a woman, whether it resulted in a pregnancy or not, his shot at custody rights over any kids in the future should be revoked. As far as the Akin mess, Dems are turning it into a plus for Republicans by taking the opportunity to tout just how militantly pro-abortion they are.
 
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They are hoping to draw that militant feminist base out to vote, the bad economy and other factors will probably dampen dem turnout this election, so that are doing what they can to get that base angry enough to turn out.
 
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There's always the 18 year old male and the 17 year old female and vice versa. Statutory rape and is certainly a slippery slope or even a bundle of snakes. Lots of females raping their underage stucents recently. By both sexes. It goes without saying that they should put the older females in jail and give the kid to the minor male and never allow the female contact with said child. Neither one.

So if an 18 year old has consensual sex with a 17 year old and the female becomes pregnant, the 18 year old should be sent to prison for 18+ years and should never have any visitation rights???????
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

Statutory Rape is often a very different issue. Many cases of your example remain loving relationships.

Rape itself is one of the most heinous crimes.


So if an 18 year old has consensual sex with a 17 year old and the female becomes pregnant, the 18 year old should be sent to prison for 18+ years and should never have any visitation rights???????
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

Where's the list of states - because there are 31 states I realize I don't want to associate with. . . I bet you one is ****ing Arkansas - god, I hope not.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

No parental rights. That means no child support, either. Sorry, can't have it both ways. The exchange of money legitimizes the relationship. Pick one.
 
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So if an 18 year old has consensual sex with a 17 year old and the female becomes pregnant, the 18 year old should be sent to prison for 18+ years and should never have any visitation rights???????

Well, that seems to be the law. Then again, if the 29 year old teacher gets pregnant when she rapes the 17 year old boy, then the same swift ans sure justice must ensue. The boy gets the kid and the teacher gets the 18 years, correct? Am I missing something or is the issue somewhat less clear.
 
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I can't believe that. Hopefully, no judge in his or her right mind would ever allow this.

Here are the states.

Why Do Rapists Have Custody & Visitation Rights in These 31 States? | The Stir

"Which 31 states are we talking about? These are the states where we have some work to do. Daily Kos was able to get a little info on this. If I'm reading this correctly and their info is good, the following states have laws or provisions that at least limit a rapists' visitation and custody rights: Alaska, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Missouri (Akin's state: "biological father's guilty plea or conviction of forcible rape of the birth mother is conclusive evidence to termination of his rights"), Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, and Wisconsin.

The rest of you states: You're on notice. Let's fix this: Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wyoming."
 
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Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

I just found out the following:


Now, I am thoroughly disgusted. I am disgusted because I don't think a woman should not be forced to interact with her rapist for the rest of her life. Moreover, I don't think a child should be, even partially, raised by someone so disgusting and who has an inherently toxic relationship with them and their mother.

Do you agree or disagree?

Under most circumstances, no the father should not be allowed any visitation rights.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

No parental rights. That means no child support, either. Sorry, can't have it both ways. The exchange of money legitimizes the relationship. Pick one.


This isn't 'boyfriend/girlfriend had a baby . . . ' this is 'asshole raped woman and knocked her up and she was strong enough to have the baby and now he wants to violate her life some more because destroying her soul wasn't enough'
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

How is it that the man retains superior rights - at what point does she find some control and respect in her life?

People's attitude towards raped women make me puke - he's a piece of **** and deserves nothing but jail time. . . no happiness = none.

If he doesn't want his balls removed he shouldn't have raped someone to begin with.

If someone cannot respect another person's rights and liberty then how on earth do they have the power to claim their own?
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

No parental rights. That means no child support, either. Sorry, can't have it both ways. The exchange of money legitimizes the relationship. Pick one.
It's always funny when people say, "sorry" followed by an argument that they haven't defended that they treat as self-evident.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

In Virginia, rape warranted a death sentence, and quite a few executions were carried out. What a shame, they still don't execute rapists, now.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

Not unless 1. He's served his time and 2. The mother wants him to be involved in the child's life.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

Who the hell would give parental rights to a rapist? What kind of stupidity is that? He should be rotting in prison and that's it.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

Absolutely not. If a woman becomes pregnant through rape, the fetus should be aborted, and the criminal thrown in prison for the majority of his life.
It's comments like this that make me wish you were the product of rape, and your mom was chomping at the bit to abort you.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

Absolutely not. If a woman becomes pregnant through rape, the fetus should be aborted, and the criminal thrown in prison for the majority of his life.

What is this?

It's up to the woman what she wants to do with the child. Not you. If she wants to keep it, by all means, she can.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

Romeo and Juliet statutory rape, yes. He's 17, she's 16, he turns 18 and Mom calls the cops. 3 years later and he's out of jail what I'm talking about.

Forcible rape, no. He should be dead from being executed.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

What is this?

It's up to the woman what she wants to do with the child. Not you. If she wants to keep it, by all means, she can.

Yes - women's rights mean that she can keep whatever children she has if that is how she wants it.
 
Re: If a man fathers a child through rape, should he have visitation or custody right

Not just no but hell no...........I believe if a man rapes a woman he should be executed.............
 
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