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Are Romney's undisclosed taxes equally relavant to Obama's college records?

Are Ronmey's undisclosed tax returns equal in importance to Obama's college records?

  • Yes. Obama's college records are of equal value to Romney's tax returns

    Votes: 15 22.4%

  • No. Its just the best political come back the GOP can come up with under the circumstances

    Votes: 29 43.3%

  • Neither tax or college records matter in the election.

    Votes: 17 25.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 6 9.0%
  • Total voters
    67
Catawba said:
If you have proof that Obama can time travel, I would be interested in seeing it.
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Remember, around partisan elections, many people lose their capacity to think.

Take Mycroft. He thinks it's normal for campaigns to help their opponents win. Crazy? Absolutely.
 
obvious Child said:
Actually I don't really care if he does or not. I can logically conclude what is the likely thing Romney is trying to hide and I entirely agree with his decision from a campaign stand point to not release because I actually understand the topic, unlike you. You however, do not seem to be capable of critically analyzing the situation.

Romney is actively helping the Obama campaign tear him down by fueling rumors he paid next to nothing legally by refusing to release his returns. You don't help your opponent make your election more unlikely unless disproving the rumor results in a disclosure worse then the rumor you're trying to squash.

But for some asinine reason you think that it's normal for campaigns to actively help their opponents tear them down. That is a sign of serious partisan hackery.

His refusal to do so leads back to my point that Romney will continue Obama's secrecy. So anyone who criticizes Obama on secrecy should demand Romney release his returns. Or you're a partisan hypocrite.



It helps to actually read what I wrote. I can logically conclude what he's trying to hide. I also can logically conclude that breaking a tradition of transparency sets a tone for how he'll be as a President.

You seem to have a problem with Obama's secrecy, but have no problem with Romney starting off with secrecy before he's even elected. Furthermore, you have this asinine notion it's normal for campaigns to help their opponents win.

And you call me a crock.
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Dude...I have no problem with Obama's secrecy...if he has any...much like I don't have a problem with Romney's decision to not bow to the howling masses by releasing his tax returns. But, hey...we all have our obsessions. Mine happens to be for less government. Yours happens to be about Romney's tax returns.

Bottom line answer to the thread title's question: Yes, they are equally relevant...which is to say, they both are not relevant at all.

Your mileage, of course, will differ.
 
IF what Harry Reid said ... that Romney didnt pay taxes for nearly 10 years, I am fairly sure the IRS would be knocking on his door... no questions asked. A tip can be the start of an audit, so if there were any credibility to it ... Harry should have had his little bird tell the IRS.


Done.
 
Romney's tax returns would allow us to have a very important conversation about a broken and unfair tax code.

Obama's school records will tell us nothing we don't already know--he rose to the occasion at Harvard Law school and achieved excellence.
 
hazlnut said:
Romney's tax returns would allow us to have a very important conversation about a broken and unfair tax code.

Obama's school records will tell us nothing we don't already know--he rose to the occasion at Harvard Law school and achieved excellence.
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Stupid logic, there.

We don't need Romney's returns to tell us the tax code is forked. We already know this. We can have that important conversation any time the Democrats are ready to talk.

But, hey...if you REALLY want to see some tax returns that illustrate the broken tax codes, I'd suggest looking at G.E.'s returns. I bet you could find some really interesting stuff there.
 
people were asking for college records long before Romney became the presumptive nominee.

So the poll question claiming this is a response to Obama is flat out wrong
 
ARealConservative said:
people were asking for college records long before Romney became the presumptive nominee.

So the poll question claiming this is a response to Obama is flat out wrong
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By 'people' you mean Donald Trump and the birthers. They started asking for the college records on the day Obama released his birth certificate--when their first conspiracy theory went in the toilet.

The college recordsism requires you to believe that Clinton and GOP opposition research hasn't already seen the records and found nothing damaging AND that then student Obama lied to get financial aide and no-one at the three institutions has gone back and checked.

This college records nonsense is another fringe right attack on POTUS--shame on mainstream right for not condemning it.
 
hazlnut said:
By 'people' you mean Donald Trump and the birthers. They started asking for the college records on the day Obama released his birth certificate--when their first conspiracy theory went in the toilet.
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No, I mean American citizens looking to vet an extremely unknown politician new on the scene. Calls for his college records were introduced in the run against McCain.
 
Romney's failure to release his records raises suspicion in my mind. What is he afraid of? It's like a person on trial who refuses to testify because he doesn't want to incriminate his/her self.

Look what the birthers did to obama and that ass hole Donald Trump.

BTW Romney paid only 14% one year and that is much less than hard working Americans paid.

It may be legal to not disclose them but it is immoral not to. A president should be open and honest with the great American people.:usflag2:
 
LiberalAvenger said:
Romney's failure to release his records raises suspicion in my mind. What is he afraid of? It's like a person on trial who refuses to testify because he doesn't want to incriminate his/her self.

Look what the birthers did to obama and that ass hole Donald Trump.

BTW Romney paid only 14% one year and that is much less than hard working Americans paid.

It may be legal to not disclose them but it is immoral not to. A president should be open and honest with the great American people.:usflag2:
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Romney only paid 14% of $20 million and that's a whole lot more than most Americans pay. Looks like Romney paid quite a few welfare checks for the last 10 years.
Romney can release his taxes when Obama releases his college transcripts and his real birth certificate.
 
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bicycleman said:
Romney only paid 14% of $20 million and that's a whole lot more than most Americans pay. Looks like Romney paid quite a few welfare checks for the last 10 years.
Romney can release his taxes when Obama releases his college transcripts and his real birth certificate.
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aaaarg
 
LiberalAvenger said:
Romney's failure to release his records raises suspicion in my mind. What is he afraid of? It's like a person on trial who refuses to testify because he doesn't want to incriminate his/her self.

Look what the birthers did to obama and that ass hole Donald Trump.

BTW Romney paid only 14% one year and that is much less than hard working Americans paid.

It may be legal to not disclose them but it is immoral not to. A president should be open and honest with the great American people.:usflag2:
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He is afraid that 10 years of records just gives the class warfare advocates more ammunition to ignore the economy. the more they can focus on the big bad rich guy, the more likely the dems can win reelection with the worst economic numbers imaginable.
 
There is alot of speculation is to why obama's school records are top secret. He seems to be hiding something so it does have me interested. If I was Mitt I'd call his bluff, "I'll show you mine if you show me yours".
 
Mycroft said:
Well...I must say I'm surprised by your response. I thought, surely, that someone who defends Obama would know about him...but on second thought, you don't actually defend him. You only attack his opponents.

Anyway, this is how it happened:

He became a State Senator, not by winning his nomination, but by knocking his opponents out of the race. He got the nomination by default. When he ran for U.S. Senator, he got his Democratic opponents divorce papers exposed, causing him to withdraw. Again, he got his nomination by default. The then pulled the same trick on his Republican opponent, causing him to withdraw and the Republican replacements was so inept, Obama cruised to an easy victory.

Chicago political tactics at its best.

Now...in his previous and current Presidential races, he obviously can't make his opponents withdraw...but he didn't...and now doesn't...hesitate to try to smear his opponents in any way possible.

More Chicago political tactics.

He had an easier time with McCain...in large part by connecting McCain to Bush. He's having a harder time with Romney...but he's trying his best. Witness the current taxer tactics.

Bottom line: Obama has never won a race based solely on his qualifications and positions. He has always used sleazy Chicago political tactics.

You know, haymarket...some people would charge good money for providing an education. You're lucky I don't need your money and that I'm doing it for free.
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The American people elected Barack Obama as President of the USA in a fair and open election in which his opponent put up the best fight he know how to conduct.

Every single election for every single candidate has its own storyline ad its own dynamics.

Get over it.
 
haymarket said:
The American people elected Barack Obama as President of the USA in a fair and open election in which his opponent put up the best fight he know how to conduct.

Every single election for every single candidate has its own storyline ad its own dynamics.

Get over it.
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Yeah, yeah...just like this election is all about Romney's tax returns. :roll:
 
ARealConservative said:
He is afraid that 10 years of records just gives the class warfare advocates more ammunition to ignore the economy. the more they can focus on the big bad rich guy, the more likely the dems can win reelection with the worst economic numbers imaginable.
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Of course. I will not be a hypocrite and deny that. It is called campaign strategy. Of course most of the voters are very gullible and believe all the campaign rhetoric.

he informed voters are outnumbered.

Money owns DC.
 
johnny_rebson said:
Romney would be more than happy to show 10 years of his tax returns if Obama showed his original birth certificate from Kenya.
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I recall that someone else found and released his original birth certificate from Kenya for us. I also recall it was on the form used by Australia and had the city of his birth that wasn't in Kenya at the date of his birth. I'm sure yu can find it if you look, and this will make you happy.
 
I’ve worked with some very highly paid CEO types. They are good at assigning tasks to the correct people.
If I was a CEO and my tax preparers said that they could reduce my taxes legally via some special mechanisms, I’d say do it. If it turned out what they did was not legal I’d be pissed. Also, my position could easily be that it wasn’t my fault and I’m not responsible. I would accept amnesty, even though I’d think I was not guilty.
 
Mycroft said:
Yeah, yeah...just like this election is all about Romney's tax returns. :roll:
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you seem really sensitive about those tax returns. You probably have a right to be as they are like a ticking time bomb.
 
On a personal level yes, as I don't believe either are particularly relevant nor should be relevant to the campaign.

On a political level, no, because the Deomcrats have done a far better job making the tax return issue relevant on the national stage and the media has been far more apt to run with the tax return story than the school records story.
 
haymarket said:
you seem really sensitive about those tax returns. You probably have a right to be as they are like a ticking time bomb.
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Shrug...

The tax returns mean nothing to me. I don't think the same can be said for those who keep starting threads about them, though. The best bit of advice I can offer them is to worry about the ticking time bomb Obama should worry about: The economy.
 
Mycroft said:
Shrug...

The tax returns mean nothing to me. I don't think the same can be said for those who keep starting threads about them, though. The best bit of advice I can offer them is to worry about the ticking time bomb Obama should worry about: The economy.
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That bomb exploded back in 2008.
 
Mycroft said:
Yeah, yeah...just like this election is all about Romney's tax returns. :roll:
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The focus of this election is the 1% vs the 99%. Romney's effort to hide his tax returns just serves to highlight that focus. It is his gift to the Democrats!
 
Catawba said:
The focus of this election is the 1% vs the 99%. Romney's effort to hide his tax returns just serves to highlight that focus. It is his gift to the Democrats!
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shrug...

That may be YOUR focus...not mine. I'm focused on who can reduce the size, scope and power of the government.
 
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