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If you had the choice of only one weapon...

A disaster hits your area and you have 100 rounds. What weapon to bring?

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I really don't see a $1k (~price of AR) AK doing near 500m. I think the average Joe is something like 200 with it. Someone without training probably will not hit anything over 100m with an AK, they'd be better with the AR. Without hotloads, nice sights and a sweet heavy barrel, I don't see the AK being useful at stand-off range.
 
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I'd want an AA-12. Zero Recoil, ultra reliable, never even have to clean it, and in a short range firefight nothing puts more lead on target.



Although depending on the nature of this hypothetical WROL situation it could be a bad pick. Long duration and that ammo limit will be the end of me, unless I can use the AA-12 to find more or another gun. Without slugs I don't see it being effective for hunting.

Runner up: Glock 21 carried concealed. It sure holds alot of 45 ACP's.
 
If I can have replacement parts or a no-break guarantee (because there would not be many out there), I'll take an m249 and feed it AR mags. If replacement ammo wasn't an issue, an m2 .50 or mk19. What about a recoiless rifle (anti-tank), 100 rnds of that could go a long way.

I can hit a vehicle at 1km with the m2 iron, single-shot like a sniper rifle. A few rnds and a person is probably in trouble. The mk19 also finishes someone at a km pretty quickly, but I like the m2's punch. TD wouldn't be too happy at 600m with .50s slamming around him, let alone if he was outside that. We can pick any weapon, right? :)
 
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A s a disaster hit your area and it was about survival, period. You also have only 100 rounds of ammo and enough food and water for a day or 2 at most. Which weapon would you bring?

I would have to go with something that can take a beating as it may be awhile. Simple to maintain and good for defense or hunting. I also want something light weight that will not waist to much ammo.

In the end I went with the lever 3030. It's light with a good rate of fire easily controlled and good for general defense or hunting.

To be honest with you, I'd likely go with an AA-12 automatic shotgun. I've never been much of a marksman, but you don't really need to be one with a shotgun.
 
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To be honest with you, I'd likely go with an AA-12 automatic shotgun. I've never been much of a marksman, but you don't really need to be one with a shotgun.

That would be inefficient. If you carry an intimidating vibe, then no shots need be fired. Wear tight clothing to show off your muscles and carry a shiny revolver. Carry a charismatic aurora and hopefully gain a few loyal members of a small crew. Then you don't even have to shoot because a single will not mess with a group. Packs always kill better than individuals and human instincts will avoid groups of alone and threatened.
 
Poll: A disaster hits your area and you have 100 rounds. What weapon to bring?

Well, that depends on what kind of rounds I've got. ;) If I have AK's I will take the AK. If I have 9mm rounds I will have a 9 mm pistol. :peace
 
That would be inefficient. If you carry an intimidating vibe, then no shots need be fired. Wear tight clothing to show off your muscles and carry a shiny revolver. Carry a charismatic aurora and hopefully gain a few loyal members of a small crew. Then you don't even have to shoot because a single will not mess with a group. Packs always kill better than individuals and human instincts will avoid groups of alone and threatened.

This is why I find a resume superior to a stockpile. I'm good with security, guns and food. I'm probably the best shot, so I get weapon of choice. I think your selection of clothing and weapon is strange, so you needn't worry about me taking that stuff.
 
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A s a disaster hit your area and it was about survival, period. You also have only 100 rounds of ammo and enough food and water for a day or 2 at most. Which weapon would you bring?

I would have to go with something that can take a beating as it may be awhile. Simple to maintain and good for defense or hunting. I also want something light weight that will not waist to much ammo.

In the end I went with the lever 3030. It's light with a good rate of fire easily controlled and good for general defense or hunting.
My .38 snub would be part of a go-bag I would drop off with my father when I delivered my children to him on my way to report to the armory.
 
Being armed would bring more attention to yourself, wouldn't it? If someone sees that you're armed, they're going to think you have something to defend/hide.

It does draw more attention, but avoiding attention isn't part of everyone's strategy. If my neighbors and I formed a hasty watch group, we would *want* potential looters to see that we were armed so that they would go somewhere else.

Remember, looting is a felony, and lethal force is authorized to stop a felony, so when law-enforcement can't otherwise be used, looters be-ware.

In many ways a pistol on the hip is perceived as an inherent symbol of authority. This can be useful to organised watch groups or deputized citizens in guiding small crowds. Folks are just more likely to accept what your telling them to do.
 
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Remember, looting is a felony, and lethal force is authorized to stop a felony, so when law-enforcement can't otherwise be used, looters be-ware.

Is it a forcible felony? I think you'd need castle doctrine.
 
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If I had a high perch to stay in, then definitely a bolt action rifle with only 100 rounds. Makes you place your shots a little more carefully when you know you only have one round. However, If I was on the ground, probably a handgun of some sort.
 
100 rounds is pretty low. Back in the day I carried 6+1, six mags in my pouches and one in the M16. Depending on the mags issued that was quite a bit of ammo. While many never beens and one way range rangers make a thing about ammo weight, soldiers don't. You carry what you are issued, no real thought to the weight, your life depends on it so you hump it.

Most military ARs used by grunts these days are equipped with optics. Iron sights are good but not as versatile. I resisted dropping irons, but these days I would recommend optics, even simple red dots over irons.

The military trains combat soldiers on tactical ranges measured in meters, not yards. Yard ranges are for competitions geared toward the civilian side of shooting. Pop-up targets so engagement times are limited to try and simulate the real world better than hoist and paste. Ask combat soldiers just how realistic the stress and timing is of the pop-up system and most would laugh, rarely does the enemy expose himself long enough or steady enough to develop a good sight picture. (Civilians are a whole 'nother story, which is why most experienced soldiers smile when one way range rangers prattle on about armed citizens keeping the gubmint in check.) Last I checked the Army trains out to 300m with the M4 for quals. 600 yards is what Army snipers (7.62x51) train to, about the only Army soldiers still using yards.

Anyway, the threat will not be far off and let you know he is the one in the crowd you need to sight in on like a one way range. He or she will be mixed in the mass of survivors trying to walk out with you. (If you think you will safe and comfy at home when a natural disaster odds are you will be at work or on the road) Even if you are at home you still have to stay awake and have 360* over watch. If the 'masses' swarm you can get all but one, and still have a losing proposition.

Jerry probably has the best idea, not a lone wolf with one weapon but a group holding a small area where survivors and the injured can find refuge until outside help arrives.

My weapon of choice would be my AK. I only own the one, only use the one. Had it for over 2 decades and used it in all kinds of weather. It is an extension of me. Unless the badguys develop a huge case of stupid they won't line up for one way range well placed shots, so tactics trump X's. I doubt there will be too many duels ;)

That said I've carried the Mattel toy enough that to this day I pick one up as if I never laid it down. My advice would be pick one and drill, dry fire, carry it around until you forget you have it and can deploy it without any thought to how you do that. Put dummy rounds in the mag to do immediate action drills to clear a stoppage. Run your mags hard, study what causes them to fail and maintain those feed lips. When the 30 round mags were first issued to us the feed lips were the weak link so we soon started carrying pliers to bend them back in, many 'popular' which means cheap or overhyped in the gun rags, magazines can have thin or weak feed lips.

If you plan on running lone wolf style with only one weapon if a disaster hits- good luck
 
I have coated optics on one of my AKs

I have a Gen 4 ASN passive night vision scope on an M4 and a TIU flip up unit on a Rock River AR 10

And yet what you own is irrelevant. No optics, stop trying to cheat, lol.

and you might talk to people who have actually seen people shot with the Soviet round. the afghans claimed the rounds were poisoned due to the extreme lethality of the 53 WASP bullet.

your premise was the most versatile weapon going. a lever in 30-30 isn't close

(and yeah I have a couple centerfire Lever actions as well)

Again I disagree.
 
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It does draw more attention, but avoiding attention isn't part of everyone's strategy. If my neighbors and I formed a hasty watch group, we would *want* potential looters to see that we were armed so that they would go somewhere else.

Remember, looting is a felony, and lethal force is authorized to stop a felony, so when law-enforcement can't otherwise be used, looters be-ware.

In many ways a pistol on the hip is perceived as an inherent symbol of authority. This can be useful to organised watch groups or deputized citizens in guiding small crowds. Folks are just more likely to accept what your telling them to do.
I think this is key. the OP doesnt cite what the scenario actually is. Terrain matters. Circumstance matters. Surroundings matter.

I would also think to make the scenario realistic you have to go with stock on hand. You cant wish your way into a "weapon of choice".
 
A s a disaster hit your area and it was about survival, period. You also have only 100 rounds of ammo and enough food and water for a day or 2 at most. Which weapon would you bring?

I would have to go with something that can take a beating as it may be awhile. Simple to maintain and good for defense or hunting. I also want something light weight that will not waist to much ammo.

In the end I went with the lever 3030. It's light with a good rate of fire easily controlled and good for general defense or hunting.

Not enough information given for making that choice. First you must assume no notice of the "disaster" so your choices are limitted to those firearms that you already own. If travel is by foot that makes a big difference as well, weight is then a serious factor so the pistol likely wins out. Assuming that your mission is to simply leave that "disaster" area, then speed of travel outweighs defense so take your easily concealable pistol and exit by motor vehicle, if you make it out OK then at least you are not stuck trying to conceal that long gun. ;-)
 
Not enough information given for making that choice. First you must assume no notice of the "disaster" so your choices are limitted to those firearms that you already own. If travel is by foot that makes a big difference as well, weight is then a serious factor so the pistol likely wins out. Assuming that your mission is to simply leave that "disaster" area, then speed of travel outweighs defense so take your easily concealable pistol and exit by motor vehicle, if you make it out OK then at least you are not stuck trying to conceal that long gun. ;-)

Dude it's a hypothetical for fun that ****ing has nothing to do with what you actually own. :doh

Considering I said 100 rounds, I would as most of the others assume on foot.

Now stop being a smart ass, Jesus.
 
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A s a disaster hit your area and it was about survival, period. You also have only 100 rounds of ammo and enough food and water for a day or 2 at most. Which weapon would you bring?

I would have to go with something that can take a beating as it may be awhile. Simple to maintain and good for defense or hunting. I also want something light weight that will not waist to much ammo.

In the end I went with the lever 3030. It's light with a good rate of fire easily controlled and good for general defense or hunting.

Definitely an auto pistol. The most functional and portable weapon.
 
A s a disaster hit your area and it was about survival, period. You also have only 100 rounds of ammo and enough food and water for a day or 2 at most. Which weapon would you bring?

I would have to go with something that can take a beating as it may be awhile. Simple to maintain and good for defense or hunting. I also want something light weight that will not waist to much ammo.

In the end I went with the lever 3030. It's light with a good rate of fire easily controlled and good for general defense or hunting.

Honestly, I'd rather have a good 22 caliber rifle, like a Ruger 10/22. I won't be able to eat more than a smaller animal before it spoils, and if anyone decides they're going to be hostile, a 22 through the ****ing face is enough to stop most people. I'd have a knife anyway, since to me a knife is a tool before it's a weapon.
 
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Honestly, I'd rather have a good 22 caliber rifle, like a Ruger 10/22. I won't be able to eat more than a smaller animal before it spoils, and if anyone decides they're going to be hostile, a 22 through the ****ing face is enough to stop most people. I'd have a knife anyway, since to me a knife is a tool before it's a weapon.

Initially, I was thinking along the same lines, but it just doesn't have enough knock-down power if the **** gets thick.
 
And yet what you own is irrelevant. No optics, stop trying to cheat, lol.



Again I disagree.

you have a scoped bolt gun-why the artificial limits.

and you can review the FBI ballistic tests-the 545 and the 5.56 create superior wound channels over the much slower 30-30

and no one recommends a lever action-its not as solid as a a bolt of pump action and much slower than a pump or a semi auto

and you cannot use high performance bullets due to the tubular magazine
 
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