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Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firearm?

Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firearm?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 8.3%
  • No

    Votes: 40 83.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 4 8.3%

  • Total voters
    48
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

So the right isn't intended for defense of yourself, your family, and your country?

If you're going to purchase a weapon for collection, why not buy one without an ignition mechanism or a vital internal piece? You don't need a fully automatic/semi-automatic/single-shot functioning gun just for looks.

You telling people what they need is beyond disgusting
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

So the right isn't intended for defense of yourself, your family, and your country?

If you're going to purchase a weapon for collection, why not buy one without an ignition mechanism or a vital internal piece? You don't need a fully automatic/semi-automatic/single-shot functioning gun just for looks.

It is a right intended as a right, period. Doesn't matter what your reason is. If you can buy legally, you don't need a reason.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

Then why are you utterly impotent to name it or its author?

Yippee- HM gets to use his fave buzzword. :lol:
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

You telling people what they need is beyond disgusting

You don't need it. It's not a necessity. So how is it disgusting?

Also, don't call me disgusting. You claimed if someone who had similar beliefs to me ever got into a political office you'd assassinate them.

Burn Down the Suburbs? - Stanley Kurtz - National Review Online

This proves nothing. President Obama's former mentors created an organization with that ideology and they presented it to Obama. Now all of a sudden he wants to burn down the suburbs? Almost as outrageous as Michele Bachmann claiming the Muslim Brotherhood is infiltrating the U.S. government because Huma Abedin's father's friend has ties to a company which works with the Muslim Brotherhood.
 
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Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

Yippee- HM gets to use his fave buzzword. :lol:

It fits Turtles inability to cite and explain his sources to perfection.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

It fits Turtles inability to cite and explain his sources to perfection.

Give me a break. You use it with regularity on anyone (male) who disagrees with you, and it has nothing to do with sources and citation.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

You don't need it. It's not a necessity. So how is it disgusting?

Also, don't call me disgusting. You claimed if someone who had similar beliefs to me ever got into a political office you'd assassinate them.



This proves nothing. President Obama's former mentors created an organization with that ideology and they presented it to Obama. Now all of a sudden he wants to burn down the suburbs? Almost as outrageous as Michele Bachmann claiming the Muslim Brotherhood is infiltrating the U.S. government because Huma Abedin's father's friend has ties to a company which works with the Muslim Brotherhood.

you don't need to post on this board
you don't need a computer
you don't need a car
you don't need freedom of speech
you don't need anything other than food water oxygen and in some cases shelter

you certainly do not need to tell me what i need

and NEED has no RELEVANCE to RIGHTS

and yes, people who would deny our rights based on what THEY FEEL others need are people that armed citizens should see as enemies.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

Give me a break. You use it with regularity on anyone (male) who disagrees with you, and it has nothing to do with sources and citation.

Perhaps you need to educate yourself on them meaning of the term?
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

Give me a break. You use it with regularity on anyone (male) who disagrees with you, and it has nothing to do with sources and citation.

some lefties hold others to standards they never attempt to meet themselves
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

You claimed if someone who had similar beliefs to me ever got into a political office you'd assassinate them.



This proves nothing. President Obama's former mentors created an organization with that ideology and they presented it to Obama. Now all of a sudden he wants to burn down the suburbs? Almost as outrageous as Michele Bachmann claiming the Muslim Brotherhood is infiltrating the U.S. government because Huma Abedin's father's friend has ties to a company which works with the Muslim Brotherhood.

You don't get it yet do you? Some extreme right wing whacko puts his paranoid delusions down on paper and other extremists print it for him. Now its out there that President Obama wants to burn down the suburbs, kill hard working Christian white folks, steal their wealth and give it to shiftless black criminals and welfare queens who will use it to buy new cadillacs, big screen TV's and a life time supply of spare ribs.

And the 'reality' of that justifies the self imposed mental delusions of other right wing whacko's about assassinating government leaders who disagree with them on pubic policy.

It makes perfect sense....... to them ..... :roll:;)
 
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Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

Perhaps you need to educate yourself on them meaning of the term?

I know the meanings of the term, and I know your intent, which is to insult and attempt to degrade, as most people automatically envision the common usage in this country. If you wish to play coy, you're wasting your effort.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

[...] and yes, people who would deny our rights based on what THEY FEEL others need are people that armed citizens should see as enemies.

My beliefs do not deny you any rights. You'd be assassinating someone because they believe we should have a marksmanship/safety test before being able to purchase a gun.

Also, is having a fully functioning rifle a necessity if you just want to hang it on a wall so it looks pretty?
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

I know the meanings of the term, and I know your intent, which is to insult and attempt to degrade, as most people automatically envision the common usage in this country. If you wish to play coy, you're wasting your effort.

You need to do far less mind reading and far more dictionary reading.

im·po·tent/ˈimpətnt/
Adjective:
Unable to take effective action; helpless or powerless
 
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Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

You don't get it yet do you? Some extreme right wing whacko puts his paranoid delusions down on paper and other extremists print it for him. Now its out there that President Obama wants to burn down the suburbs, kill hard working Christian white folks, steal their wealth and give it to shiftless black criminals and welfare queens who will use it to buy new cadillacs, big screen TV's and a life time supply of spare ribs.

And the 'reality' of that justifies the self imposed mental delusions of other right wing whacko's about assassinating government leaders who disagree with them on pubic policy.

It makes perfect sense....... to them ..... :roll:;)

It is interesting that anyone who criticizes the messiah Obama is labeled a "extreme right wing whacko with paranoid delusions"

I guess the Clintons must be Extreme right wing whacks because they certainly have criticized His Eminence B H Obama
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

My beliefs do not deny you any rights. You'd be assassinating someone because they believe we should have a marksmanship/safety test before being able to purchase a gun.

Also, is having a fully functioning rifle a necessity if you just want to hang it on a wall so it looks pretty?

you need to read better. I don't need to justify why I should be able to exercise a constitutional right even if my explanation is not suitable to someone who is clueless about rights or weapons.

and I never said anything about assassinating anyone over a safety test

but your suggestion has been soundly rejected by those who understand the issue
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

It is interesting that anyone who criticizes the messiah Obama is labeled a "extreme right wing whacko with paranoid delusions"

Feel free to prove that charge with names and evidence.

Yeah - I know - the mere thought of you actually proving your allegations is as funny as a comedians convention in the Catskills.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

Feel free to prove that charge with names and evidence.

Yeah - I know - the mere thought of you actually proving your allegations is as funny as a comedians convention in the Catskills.

we can start with you proving your accusations of "right wing extremists" and "paranoid delusions"

but the love of Obama is touching.

I merely pointed out that these charges have been made against Obama. I proved that fact

I win
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

It is interesting that anyone who criticizes the messiah Obama is labeled a "extreme right wing whacko with paranoid delusions"

I guess the Clintons must be Extreme right wing whacks because they certainly have criticized His Eminence B H Obama

He's not labeling you that because of criticism. He's labeling you that because you're assuming Obama wants to burn down the suburbs because he met with two guys who he used to know.

you need to read better. I don't need to justify why I should be able to exercise a constitutional right even if my explanation is not suitable to someone who is clueless about rights or weapons.

Clueless about rights and weapons? Care to explain how?

and I never said anything about assassinating anyone over a safety test

No, you didn't. But you did say you would assassinate someone with my beliefs if they came into political office, and the only belief you know I hold is the one about the marksmanship test.
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

we can start with you proving your accusations of "right wing extremists" and "paranoid delusions"

but the love of Obama is touching.

I merely pointed out that these charges have been made against Obama. I proved that fact

I win

The link you provided is a perfect example of right wing paranoid delusions. Obama has a secret plot to burn down the suburbs and redistribute their wealth to the black criminals of the inner cities? And to you that is an example of mainstream thinking? To you that is normal discourse?

Of course you offered it as an excuse to justify your talk of political assassinations of your political enemies.

The word EXTREMISM does not begin to do justice you the entire sick affair.

Yes Turtle - you indeed win the prize. No doubt about it.

Amazing!!!!!!
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

Oh yes you can


putting the wrong person in the white house often costs thousands of lives

and merely possessing a gun does not do anything

One of the reasons why I practice all the time with weapons is in case people like you get into positions of power

Here is what I said
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

He's not labeling you that because of criticism. He's labeling you that because you're assuming Obama wants to burn down the suburbs because he met with two guys who he used to know.



Clueless about rights and weapons? Care to explain how?



No, you didn't. But you did say you would assassinate someone with my beliefs if they came into political office, and the only belief you know I hold is the one about the marksmanship test.

if you think NEED is a requirement to exercise a RIGHT you are , without a doubt, CLUELESS about the concept of a RIGHT
 
Re: Should Americans have to undergo marksmanship training to be able to own a firear

I will close for the night noting you do not need to prove you can drive a car to merely own one
you can own a plane without having a pilot's license
you can own a scapel, without being a licensed surgeon
 
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