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If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racist

If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racist?


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Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

Whatever could you possibly be talking about? :roll:
If it's not motivated by bigotry, then why should it matter which group is being discriminated against?

There is nothing wrong with people of 2 races getting married as long as they are a man and a woman.
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

1) Marriage isn't necessarily about reproduction - by that logic infertile couples and couples who do not wish to have children shouldn't have the right to marry.

2) Gays can have children and still contribute to the gene pool of the future through artificial insemination, in vitro, and/or surrogacy.

3) And, either way, even if homosexuals aren't contributing to the gene pool of the future, then what harm does it do to give them marriage equality?

Bottom line is, this isn't an argument about genes or reproduction. It's an argument about rights, equality, discrimination, and justice.

To your point of view, but apparently, some people have a different opinion. Homosexuals are not being discrimated against. They have the same right to marry as any normal person does. There is absolutely nothing stopping them from a normal marriage, other than thier own choice not to. There is absolutely not need to change laws to extent normal "rights" to those who have abnormal behaviors. What next, you want to give Paranoid Schizonphrenics the right to buy guns afer they have been diagnosed? But since this argument centers around sexual deviations, perhaps you want to recognise pedophilia as normal also.
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

Don't make me start a new topic: If a man, or woman, wants to ban beastiality does that make him, or her, a bigot?
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

Anyone who wants to be married to more than one person at a time, of course. You're the one who is claiming that polygamists don't deserve to be married to as many people as they want to be. I'm just pointing out that this is the exact same argument made by anti-gay crusaders (they can marry anyone of the opposite sex) or potentially by anti-interracial advocates (they can marry anyone of the same race). If you want equality of rights, why does it stop at how many consenting adults want to marry?

Because with race or gender, you don't have a choice in the matter. If some people can marry a white woman, but others can't because of their race or gender, that's discrimination and nothing they can do can ever change it. In contrast, if some people can marry a woman but others can't because of their current marital status, that's a result of a CHOICE they made...and one which they are free to REVERSE at any time. That is NOT discrimination, any moreso than any other form of treating people differently for their actions.
 
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Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

Because with race or gender, you don't have a choice in the matter. If some people can marry a white woman, but others can't because of their race or gender, that's discrimination and nothing they can do can ever change it. In contrast, if some people can marry a woman but others can't because of their current marital status, that's a result of a CHOICE they made...and one which they are free to REVERSE at any time. That is NOT discrimination, any moreso than any other form of treating people differently for their actions.

So people have a choice in what culture they are born into? Sure, they can possibly change cutlures after the become adults, but that doesn't happen with everyone, does it? Hell, if people actually were more willing to move to different cultures, all the liberals would have already taken boats to where what they want actually exists instead of trying to force it upon others.
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

Of course wanting to ban interracial marriage is the height of bigotry. Why would anyone even ask? There is no other reason for such a ban.

It hasn't been all that long ago that such marriages were banned outright in some places, and seriously frowned on even where they were legal. Times change, and our silly old racial stereotypes don't survive the test of time or rationality.
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

Of course wanting to ban interracial marriage is the height of bigotry.

no it's not. It's not by default bigoted.

big·ot·ry/ˈbigətrē/
Noun:
Bigoted attitudes; intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

Synonyms:
zealotry - fanaticism

More info »Wikipedia - Dictionary.com - Answers.com - Merriam-Webster
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

There is nothing wrong with people of 2 races getting married as long as they are a man and a woman.

Why can't a gay interracial couple get married (besides the obvious legal reasons in many states)?
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

Why can't a gay interracial couple get married (besides the obvious legal reasons in many states)?

They do, most couples getting married are gay at their wedding, it is only later that less joyous emotions come in.
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

They do, most couples getting married are gay at their wedding, it is only later that less joyous emotions come in.

Oh yes, the gaiety of the big day! :lol:
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

I think a lot of that gaiety of the big day actually comes for the anticipation of the big night.

I'd probably be more excited about the fact that I'd then have a legitimate excuse to push away the droves of women who attack me! :lol:
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

Oh yes, the gaiety of the big day! :lol:

Or maybe it's a case of

"Dance, little jean, this day is for you,
Two people you love, stood up and said "i do"
Dance little jean, the prayer that you had
Was answered today
Your mama's marrying your dad"
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

So people have a choice in what culture they are born into? Sure, they can possibly change cutlures after the become adults, but that doesn't happen with everyone, does it?

"Culture" is not an immutable, unchangeable fact of your identity like gender or race are. You absolutely have the choice to change cultures. This is fundamentally different than restricting people's marriage options because of their race or gender. Once you're an adult, you have control over what cultural values you choose to identify with...but you do not control your race or gender (in most cases).

Hell, if people actually were more willing to move to different cultures, all the liberals would have already taken boats to where what they want actually exists instead of trying to force it upon others.

I moved from rural Ohio to Washington DC, partially for that reason. If you're an adult, you choose where you live and with whom you associate.
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

I disagree, Interacial marriages introduce further genetic diversity and the increased possiblity of evolutionary combinations/mutations that may improve man-kind. Homosexual marriage or even acts cannot introduce anything. Interacial marriages can contribute to genetic the future, Homosexual marriages cannot, they only apply to the desires and wants of the current generation of participants.

Obviously, you have no idea as to what the benefits and purposes of marriage are. The purpose of marriage is NOT procreation. Never has been. It IS about the rearing of children. Procreation has never been a requirement for marriage either. The entire "procreation" argument is completely invalid. Further, marriage has several benefits that has causes government to support it. Marriage has been shown to improve the health of both individuals. It has been shown to assist in creating a stable society, improve and stabilize wealth, and is the most effective method of rearing children. All of these things have been found to be completely consistent in both heterosexual AND homosexual unions. THESE are the reasons that government supports marriage and what things marriage tends to positively produce. Procreation is not relevant.
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

I disagree, Interacial marriages introduce further genetic diversity and the increased possiblity of evolutionary combinations/mutations that may improve man-kind. Homosexual marriage or even acts cannot introduce anything. Interacial marriages can contribute to genetic the future, Homosexual marriages cannot, they only apply to the desires and wants of the current generation of participants.

And why exactly does the vaguely eugenics-sounding idea of "evolutionary combinations that may improve mankind" for our distant descendants take priority over the rights of people who are alive right now?
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

Obviously, you have no idea as to what the benefits and purposes of marriage are. The purpose of marriage is NOT procreation. Never has been. It IS about the rearing of children. Procreation has never been a requirement for marriage either. The entire "procreation" argument is completely invalid. Further, marriage has several benefits that has causes government to support it. Marriage has been shown to improve the health of both individuals. It has been shown to assist in creating a stable society, improve and stabilize wealth, and is the most effective method of rearing children. All of these things have been found to be completely consistent in both heterosexual AND homosexual unions. THESE are the reasons that government supports marriage and what things marriage tends to positively produce. Procreation is not relevant.

It's difficult to evaluate your position when your first assertions are so very wrong. The purpose of marriage was indeed about procreation, that only changed very recently historically speaking.
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

It's difficult to evaluate your position when your first assertions are so very wrong. The purpose of marriage was indeed about procreation, that only changed very recently historically speaking.

That has never been the purpose of marriage. It was often an OUTCOME.
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

It's difficult to evaluate your position when your first assertions are so very wrong. The purpose of marriage was indeed about procreation, that only changed very recently historically speaking.


If marriage is about procreation, should octogenarians be allowed to marry?
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

It's difficult to evaluate your position when your first assertions are so very wrong. The purpose of marriage was indeed about procreation, that only changed very recently historically speaking.
The purpose of of marriage is the transfer of property rights. And it was never afforded to the lower classes through out history.
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

The purpose of of marriage is the transfer of property rights. And it was never afforded to the lower classes through out history.

Quite correct. Marriage has not been about procreation. It may well have been a side issue at some place and time, but not the historic reason for marriage.
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

What do you think? Is there any plausible reason to favor this discriminatory marriage policy, other than bigotry/racism?

"If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racist?"

the only answer is YES

and its the only correct answer because he is trying to ban it, stop it from happening ever again etc

If he simply THOUGHT it was wrong and wouldnt do it himself but was fine if others did it, then not so much
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

It is always man this man that I swear y'all Are so phallocentric it is like a gay bar. Let's talk ***** mmkay
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

Don't make me start a new topic: If a man, or woman, wants to ban beastiality does that make him, or her, a bigot?

Explain how those two are anyway related?
 
Re: If a man wants to ban interracial marriage, does that make him a bigot or a racis

Explain how those two are anyway related?

In the parallel universe most of us inhabit, the one we refer to as the "real world", they aren't.
 
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