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If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homophobe

If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homophobe


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It seems like a lot of people on the left seem to think so....I am asking you what do you think?
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Yes, I think the stance against gay marriage stems from a tradition of bigotry. I don't mean that as a personal attack on those who oppose it, but I think they're misguided. However, there's no denying that the defense of "traditional marriage" is an exclusionary political stance targeting a small subset of the population.
 
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I would like to vote on the option of MAYBE.

Actions speak louder than words. Favoring is one thing, actions are another.
 
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if not supporting gays makes them homphobes,do people calling them bigots get to be called bigotophobes?????????
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

It might. The world is so rarely black and white to say that some one is x because of y reason.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Nope, it depends on his actions or if he is vocal about hating homosexuals for some reason.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

If that were the actual extent of people's beliefs who say such things and they do not actively persecute gay people, I'd say "not necessarily. Since that is so seldom the extent of the actual views being expressed, nor the zeal with which they are pursued, however, such a poll as this is merely an attempt to frame the actual views in question in such a way as to represent the least objectionable views as being the true barometer rather than the full extent of the views. It's just a copout offered in hopes of fooling people.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Yes, I think the stance against gay marriage stems from a tradition of bigotry. I don't mean that as a personal attack on those who oppose it, but I think they're misguided. However, there's no denying that the defense of "traditional marriage" is an exclusionary political stance targeting a small subset of the population.

So because a person has a difference of opinion with you on marriage that automatically makes them a bbigot or a homophobe? Under your definition that would make about 75% of the people in the USA bigots or homophobes.....and you call us the intolerant ones...........what a joke.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

I would like to vote on the option of MAYBE.

Actions speak louder than words. Favoring is one thing, actions are another.

How about stating your opinion on the issue?
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

So because a person has a difference of opinion with you on marriage that automatically makes them a bbigot or a homophobe? Under your definition that would make about 75% of the people in the USA bigots or homophobes.....and you call us the intolerant ones...........what a joke.

Not a joke -- a grim reality. The general direction of society is away from such anti-gay attitudes, but we're really talking about a cultural shift playing out over generations, not a momentary political battle. But, in short, yes, excluding homosexuals from political activity is clear bigotry on a wide scale.
 
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Another NP thread about gays? Once again, nearly everyone on the forum doesn't have a problem if NP is gay even those who do oppose gay marriage.;)

I do not think a person opposing gay marriage is a bigot or homophob. I strongly support legalizing gay marriage.
 
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Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

It seems like a lot of people on the left seem to think so....I am asking you what do you think?

I have no problem with gays getting married. I have less of a problem with those who don't agree with me.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

It seems like a lot of people on the left seem to think so....I am asking you what do you think?

Assuming "traditional marriage" is code for "no queers settling down," then yes. If "traditional marriage" means something else, then it would depend on what it means.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Assuming "traditional marriage" is code for "no queers settling down," then yes. If "traditional marriage" means something else, then it would depend on what it means.

^ That was neither necessary nor humorous in my opinion.
 
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I support Traditional Marriage.

In the sense that marriage had been the foundation of a family and to raise children, which gays have proven they are capable of doing.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

If he only SAYS it, no.

If he acts to oppose gays getting married, then yes. He is actively discriminating.

"Traditional marriage" is not as "traditional" as its supporters think it is.

Myriad cultures have myriad variations on "tradition" so there is no uniform "tradition" in our melting pot country.
 
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That IS my opinion. MAYBE. Sorry, I can't think in black and white. To me, life is in grayscale.

I don't agree with the philosophy of prohibiting SSM. To me, it violates the principles of equality. However, I don't think that believing something opposite to my beliefs is of itself wrong.

Since I'm not privy to any actions that relate to this, I'll stick with maybe.



How about stating your opinion on the issue?
 
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So because a person has a difference of opinion with you on marriage that automatically makes them a bbigot or a homophobe?

If you have a "difference of opinion" on same-sex marriage, fine. Don't marry another dude. No one is talking about making same-sex marriage mandatory for everyone. What you actually mean is that you have a "difference of opinion" about someone ELSE'S marriage, and you want to use the law to ban it from happening.

If there was a popular movement to outlaw veterans from getting married, what would you think? Would you respect it as a movement with which you simply had a difference of opinion...even if they succeeded in getting YOUR marriage annulled?
 
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Yes, I think the stance against gay marriage stems from a tradition of bigotry. I don't mean that as a personal attack on those who oppose it, but I think they're misguided. However, there's no denying that the defense of "traditional marriage" is an exclusionary political stance targeting a small subset of the population.

I guess billions of people have been misguided for thousands of years. :shrug:
 
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I guess billions of people have been misguided for thousands of years. :shrug:


But that's a truism irregardless of any gay marriage topic.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

I guess billions of people have been misguided for thousands of years. :shrug:

Yep. Isn't the first time.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

I guess billions of people have been misguided for thousands of years. :shrug:

Are you claiming that "traditional" monogamy is universal?

The tradition you are referring to was developed when average lifespan was 40 years.

I'm not sure it would have developed the same if average lifespan had been in the 60s.

Various forms of polygamy/polyandry/group marriages have functioned well at different places and times in different cultures.
 
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I guess billions of people have been misguided for thousands of years. :shrug:

If a billion people for 2000 years thought 2 + 2 = 5, would they be right?
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

If a billion people for 2000 years thought 2 + 2 = 5, would they be right?

If a billion people today decided that 2+2=5, would they be right?
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Neither. Its called speaking up for what you believe in, which makes the person honest, if anything.
 
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