If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homophobe

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hazlnut said:

Your belief is contrary to every modern theory on sexual orientation.

Sexual orientation is hard wired.


Again, I suggest you read up on the subject as well as the history of 'traditional marriage.'

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Of course you as a gay male would love everyone to believe that then you could be classified as a bonafied minority like blacks rather then a class of people defined by their sexual oreintation.

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Navy Pride said:

Of course you as a gay male would love everyone to believe that then you could be classified as a bonafied minority like blacks rather then a class of people defined by their sexual oreintation.

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LMAO what the hell does this even mean?

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clownboy said:

Lots of things are "hard wired", doesn't mean we have to engage in that behavior. So the simple fact of it being "hard wired" says nothing.

That said, I know two or three folks who are gay (fully out) and also don't believe gay marriage should be allowed. Oh they're all for a 50 state civil union law, but don't want it called marriage. Are they homophobes? My friend just laughed for 10 minutes when I told him about the question here (he's gay).

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That is exactly right and my gay friend feels the same way and so do it.....The sad part is a few militant gays and a whole bunch of "feel good liberals" are turning off straight who might be sympathetic to their cause.

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Objective-J said:

LMAO what the hell does this even mean?

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I told you I am done with you.......You don't want to discuss the subject of the thread but just to attack me personally.........That is not what this is about......Have a nice day......

Oh by the way it looks like your side is getting killed in the poll......

Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Not necessarily. Depends on what he means by "traditional."

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Navy Pride said:

It seems like a lot of people on the left seem to think so....I am asking you what do you think?

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My first thought is that he support stay-at-home-mom with kids and himself employed full time . . .that 'traditional' :shrug:

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Navy Pride said:

I told you I am done with you.......You don't want to discuss the subject of the thread but just to attack me personally.........That is not what this is about......Have a nice day......

Oh by the way it looks like your side is getting killed in the poll......

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wow two lies in one post

1.) nobody attacked you that is a lie

2.) my side is winning the poll LMAO

I said if a person simply SAYS it or FAVORS it alone that does not make them a bigot and you thanked me for it in post #85

WOW, now please wipe the egg of your face because you are making youself look silly, I am doing nothing.

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"In June of 2006, Senator Obama stated on the Senate floor that marriage was between one man and one woman. He spoke during the debate over a constitutional amendment on marriage and asserted his support for marriage as one man and one woman and his view that debating the issue was merely a distraction from the real issues."

Barack Obama on Gay Marriage

Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

IF the 'man' in question, (classic NP to not say person but only concentrate only on men), limited his statement to just what he favors, and for HIMSELF, personally...

but rarely does someone confine themselves to just that simple statement. Seldom is any public figure stopping there. Gawd's wrath seems to get tossed in a lot. NOT favoring same sex marriage follows as often as flies after a garbage truck. Quite often some comments on how 'some study' claims gays cause gay kids (never mind millions of gay kids come from 'traditional' marriage :shock: )

Funny how 'rugged individuals' are quick to remind everyone they are part of the pack, when the pack agrees with them... not so much when they, like the cheese, stand alone.

Now to turn the concept on a different angle-

If a man says he favors same race marriage is he a racist?

The answer is the same to both...

Now while lots of folks love saying bigot as a hateful thing, it is what it is. most of us have people, places and things that cause discomfort due to a warped or unsubstantiated perceptions. Just watch people who are surrounded by loud foreign language speakers, note the body language and strained faces, (myself included)

However in typical NP fashion the word homophobe is tossed in for good measure, (thinking that is the word he wants to dwell on, by including it he pushes the responder to declare all those who 'favor' a highly positive word to be homophobic a very negative one. )

False linkage so he can rant about how mean 'liberals' are.

We are all bigoted and bias to in one fashion or another, but a select, very bitter few are homophobic.

The difference is easy to see, the true homophobic bitter folks Gawd had kicked in the shin so we can distinguish them as they walk up to us.

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Nah. Simply favoring traditional marriage does not make someone a bigot. However, a good share of the people who do have belief are bigots and homophobes. Not because they support traditional marriage, but because they are against gay people in general.

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Navy Pride said:

We oppose the redefining of marriage...

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Marriage has been redefined many times. It hasn't been a constant. That said, it is the opposing equal rights and insisting that one can decide for someone else what a marriage is and isn't that makes one bigotted. I don't see any way around that.

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CriticalThought said:

Nah. Simply favoring traditional marriage does not make someone a bigot. However, a good share of the people who do have belief are bigots and homophobes. Not because they support traditional marriage, but because they are against gay people in general.

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There we go! :mrgreen: I've found another righty who doesn't condemn same sex marriage.
Good on you!

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waas said:

There we go! :mrgreen: I've found another righty who doesn't condemn same sex marriage.
Good on you!

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CT is gay.

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Boo Radley said:

Marriage has been redefined many times. It hasn't been a constant. That said, it is the opposing equal rights and insisting that one can decide for someone else what a marriage is and isn't that makes one bigotted. I don't see any way around that.

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In the last 3,000 years I believe marriage has been defined as a union between a man and a woman.

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Navy Pride said:

In the last 3,000 years I believe marriage has been defined as a union between a man and a woman.

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Actually, no. Two different Roman emperors married men. In fact, same sex marriage has existed throughout history in many parts of the world.

But facts are irrelevant to you, so I don't know why I bother.

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Aunt Spiker said:

My first thought is that he support stay-at-home-mom with kids and himself employed full time . . .that 'traditional' :shrug:

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That is the desired situation but when you have a president like Hussein Obama throwing huge tax increases on you its impossible but that is another thread.......

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CriticalThought said:

Actually, no. Two different Roman emperors married men. In fact, same sex marriage has existed throughout history in many parts of the world.

But facts are irrelevant to you, so I don't know why I bother.

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Not in Chrisian society.

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Navy Pride said:

Not in Chrisian society.

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Actually, there is evidence the earlier church supported same sex unions. But meh, truth is irrelevant. What is important is keeping the gays from marrying because they make you feel uncomfortable.

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Navy Pride said:

Not in Chrisian society.

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Then maybe Christians who believe that can apply their own notion of traditional marriage to their own communities, leave the people who disagree with them alone, and leave the theocracy out of government, yeah?

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StillBallin75 said:

Then maybe Christians who believe that can apply their own notion of traditional marriage to their own communities, leave the people who disagree with them alone, and leave the theocracy out of government, yeah?

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Hyperbole much? You obviously don't know what a theocracy is.

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Navy Pride said:

In the last 3,000 years I believe marriage has been defined as a union between a man and a woman.

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as usual you would be wrong :shrug:

and on a much more important note you being right or wrong is irrelevant to equal gay rights.

its just an empty talking point that people like to use but its meaningless

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American said:

Hyperbole much? You obviously don't know what a theocracy is.

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you accusing someone of hyperbole is cute and funny

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StillBallin75 said:

Then maybe Christians who believe that can apply their own notion of traditional marriage to their own communities, leave the people who disagree with them alone, and leave the theocracy out of government, yeah?

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They can have and opinion and not be a bigot or a homophobe......Why does that bother you so much?

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Navy Pride said:

That is the desired situation but when you have a president like Hussein Obama throwing huge tax increases on you its impossible but that is another thread.......

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Funny, it was the GOP that just voted down the tax cut extension to the middle class.

Just yesterday.

The U.S. House on Wednesday took the opposite action on tax cuts as the Senate, rejecting a Democratic proposal championed by President Barack Obama to extend lower tax rates for middle-income Americans, and then passing a Republican plan to maintain the lower rates for everyone for a year.

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Do you not own a tv or receive a newspaper?

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Navy Pride said:

They can have and opinion and not be a bigot or a homophobe......Why does that bother you so much?

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Do you know what a non-sequitur is?