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If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homophobe

If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homophobe


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Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

There is a real contridiction here........I favor traditional marriage yet a lot of the people who voted no have called me a bigot.....

I favor adults' rights to have traditional marriage. And gay marriage.

Bigotry does not mean supporting traditional marriage. Bigotry means supporting ONLY traditional marriage.

(Oh, and for those that do, they might not want to read what the Old Testament really has to say about it...)
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

(Oh, and for those that do, they might not want to read what the Old Testament really has to say about it...)

What does it really have to say about SSM?
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

What does it really have to say about SSM?

I was thinking more in terms of polygamy (no restrictions), having concubines (no restrictions), pedophilia (no restrictions), raping virgins (which carries one of the strangest punishments ever), etc. And then there's the restrictions against eating shrimp, having mixed-fabric clothing, insulting your parents (that's a capital crime in the Old Testament)...
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Depends. If the man is a bible thumper that thinks homosexuals are going to hell, and deservedly so, then he's a homophobe. If he wants to actively discriminate against gays, or pass laws against them, then he is even worse.

Of course I understand why you are eliminating context from your question, and it is not to promote a thorough, reasoned discussion.

The man can think anything he wants....Gays are employed by him and he serves them in his restuarant.........He does not discriminate against them. The situation is exactly the same with Amazon and Starbucks on the left.......where is your outrage against those Liberal ccompanies........
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

The man can think anything he wants....Gays are employed by him and he serves them in his restuarant.........He does not discriminate against them. The situation is exactly the same with Amazon and Starbucks on the left.......where is your outrage against those Liberal ccompanies........

WTF are you talking about?

Starbucks' support for same-sex marriage has earned the endorsement of the nation's largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil rights organization.

The Human Rights Campaign (HRC) has spoken out in defense of the Seattle-based coffee chain after the National Organization for Marriage (NOM) launched its international "Dump Starbucks" campaign.

Starbucks' Gay Marriage Support Endorsed By HRC Despite National Organization For Marriage Protest
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

WTF are you talking about?

Starbucks' support for same-sex marriage has earned the endorsement of the nation's largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil rights organization.

The Human Rights Campaign (HRC) has spoken out in defense of the Seattle-based coffee chain after the National Organization for Marriage (NOM) launched its international "Dump Starbucks" campaign.

Starbucks' Gay Marriage Support Endorsed By HRC Despite National Organization For Marriage Protest

Who gives a ****.........The point is just like the owner of Chick Fila he can have his own opinion on marriage....All you lefties are outraged by by the beliefs of the owner of Chick Fila....where i your outrage against Starbucks..........Oh wait, you agree with him on the issue.................HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Who gives a ****.........The point is just like the owner of Chick Fila he can have his own opinion on marriage....All you lefties are outraged by by the beliefs of the owner of Chick Fila....where i your outrage against Starbucks..........Oh wait, you agree with him on the issue.................HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No one is saying that he can't have his opinion. He just can't cry and scream "martyr" when he has to pay the consequences for his bigoted views.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Who gives a ****.........The point is just like the owner of Chick Fila he can have his own opinion on marriage....

And who has said he can't have his opinion?

All you lefties are outraged by by the beliefs of the owner of Chick Fila....where i your outrage against Starbucks..........Oh wait, you agree with him on the issue.................HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wow that makes absolutely no sense.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Who gives a ****.........The point is just like the owner of Chick Fila he can have his own opinion on marriage....All you lefties are outraged by by the beliefs of the owner of Chick Fila....where i your outrage against Starbucks..........Oh wait, you agree with him on the issue.................HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's not hypocrisy. Agreeing with someone who is advocating coexistence, freedom, equality, and peace is not synonymous with supporting someone who advocates religious extremism, and stripping people of their civil rights. It's only hypocritical if the two sides are equivalent. This is not the case. One is very clearly wrong.

Now, I do think that Starbucks is just capitalizing on the controversy, since they themselves seem to be behind the idea of a "Starbucks appreciation day". But it doesn't mean that trying to make people into second class citizens isn't still wrong.

Bigotry does not mean supporting traditional marriage. Bigotry means supporting ONLY traditional marriage.

This. Very much so. Live however you like. Think any lifestyle you like is the best choice. But try to deny others the right to live how they like and you're a bigot.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

No one is saying that he can't have his opinion. He just can't cry and scream "martyr" when he has to pay the consequences for his bigoted views.

Did you see the lines at his restuarant last week........That my left wing friend is the silent majority speaking and they are the people who will kick Hussein Obama out on his ass in November oh and mr Hogan is laughing all the way to the bank..........Nobody showed up for the gay kiss in but you.......:rofl
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

And who has said he can't have his opinion?




Wow that makes absolutely no sense.

Anyone who disagrees with you makes no sense............
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

That's not hypocrisy. Agreeing with someone who is advocating coexistence, freedom, equality, and peace is not synonymous with supporting someone who advocates religious extremism, and stripping people of their civil rights. It's only hypocritical if the two sides are equivalent. This is not the case. One is very clearly wrong.

Now, I do think that Starbucks is just capitalizing on the controversy, since they themselves seem to be behind the idea of a "Starbucks appreciation day". But it doesn't mean that trying to make people into second class citizens isn't still wrong.



This. Very much so. Live however you like. Think any lifestyle you like is the best choice. But try to deny others the right to live how they like and you're a bigot.

It is hypocriscy....you love the views of the owner of Starbucks because they are in line with yours but you protest the beliefs of the owner of Chick Fila because they are not in line with yours........That is the height of hypocricy my left wing friend.....
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Did you see the lines at his restuarant last week........That my left wing friend is the silent majority speaking and they are the people who will kick Hussein Obama out on his ass in November oh and mr Hogan is laughing all the way to the bank..........Nobody showed up for the gay kiss in but you.......:rofl

If a few thousand bigots are your "silent majority"...it is us who are doing the laughing....LOL....sorry old man....but the majority of this country now believe that gay marriage should be the law of the land. You are on the wrong end of a rapidly changing history.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

It is hypocriscy....you love the views of the owner of Starbucks because they are in line with yours but you protest the beliefs of the owner of Chick Fila because they are not in line with yours........That is the height of hypocricy my left wing friend.....

Obviously you do not comprehend what the term "hypocrisy" means. There is nothing hypocritical about supporting companies that support your view and not patronizing those who do not.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

If a few thousand bigots are your "silent majority"...it is us who are doing the laughing....LOL....sorry old man....but the majority of this country now believe that gay marriage should be the law of the land. You are on the wrong end of a rapidly changing history.



How do you explain away those thousands of people who turned out att Chick Fila then and almost no one turning out for you kiss ins?
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

How do you explain away those thousands of people who turned out att Chick Fila then and almost no one turning out for you kiss ins?

First off - it wasn't MY Kiss in, nor did I support it. I actually thought it was a dumb idea and it wasn't widely embraced by anyone. If it hadn't been reported in the right-wing media, I doubt anyone would have even heard of it.

Second - Do you REALLY want to try to argue that a few thousand bigots showing up at a Chik-Fil-A one day = a nationwide mandate?

LOL....then again...you were the man who claimed that Fred Thompson was going to be the savior of your Republican party and would wipe the floor clean with Obama. Good thing that your predictions are almost always completely wrong.

No....I'll stick with the polls which almost universally agree that the vast majority of people in this country now support gay marriage. There has been a 20 point shift in last 5 years alone.

Face it, old man, your breed are dying out. Its a new day in America and Americans are waking up to embrace a world that is free of bigotry and prejudice.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

It is hypocriscy....you love the views of the owner of Starbucks because they are in line with yours but you protest the beliefs of the owner of Chick Fila because they are not in line with yours........That is the height of hypocricy my left wing friend.....

wow this might be the most inaccurate definition of hypocrisy I have ever seen.

it not hypocrisy in any shape of form unless you are leaving out a whole bunch of the story/thought you are having but NOTHING above in your example is hypocritical, nothing. :laughat:
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

It is hypocriscy....you love the views of the owner of Starbucks because they are in line with yours but you protest the beliefs of the owner of Chick Fila because they are not in line with yours........That is the height of hypocricy my left wing friend.....

Or I stand by the positions that I think are right. I don't give a crap about the beliefs of either of them. I care what they do. Advocating for or against people's basic human rights is an action. One action (advocating for stripping people's rights) is wrong. The other (supporting equal rights) is right. There is no hypocrisy here.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

It seems like a lot of people on the left seem to think so....I am asking you what do you think?
What gives you this idea, Navy ?
I'm no conservative, some may consider me to be a communist...BUT, I favor the traditional marriage.....As far as I am concerned, the homosexuals can do their thing - but - for heavens sake, do it in private.
I think a civil union is the answer and the churches can proceed as they see fit...
We do have far, far more important problems to solve...
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

I was thinking more in terms of polygamy (no restrictions), having concubines (no restrictions), pedophilia (no restrictions), raping virgins (which carries one of the strangest punishments ever), etc. And then there's the restrictions against eating shrimp, having mixed-fabric clothing, insulting your parents (that's a capital crime in the Old Testament)...

Ah, so nothing about SSM...
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

First off - it wasn't MY Kiss in, nor did I support it. I actually thought it was a dumb idea and it wasn't widely embraced by anyone. If it hadn't been reported in the right-wing media, I doubt anyone would have even heard of it.

Second - Do you REALLY want to try to argue that a few thousand bigots showing up at a Chik-Fil-A one day = a nationwide mandate?

LOL....then again...you were the man who claimed that Fred Thompson was going to be the savior of your Republican party and would wipe the floor clean with Obama. Good thing that your predictions are almost always completely wrong.

No....I'll stick with the polls which almost universally agree that the vast majority of people in this country now support gay marriage. There has been a 20 point shift in last 5 years alone.

Face it, old man, your breed are dying out. Its a new day in America and Americans are waking up to embrace a world that is free of bigotry and prejudice.

So let me understand your warped thinking........In your clouded mind all the people that showed up to suppport Chick Fila and Mr. Hogan are bigots right???
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

Or I stand by the positions that I think are right. I don't give a crap about the beliefs of either of them. I care what they do. Advocating for or against people's basic human rights is an action. One action (advocating for stripping people's rights) is wrong. The other (supporting equal rights) is right. There is no hypocrisy here.

How do you feel about the mayors of Boston and Chicago trying to ban Chick Fila in their cities........
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

It is hypocriscy....you love the views of the owner of Starbucks because they are in line with yours but you protest the beliefs of the owner of Chick Fila because they are not in line with yours........That is the height of hypocricy my left wing friend.....

In fairness people have the right to support/protest and boycott any businesses they wish. It's a matter of free speech and freedom. Surprisingly the ACLU defended Chick-fil-A, which in turn helps me trust that more progressive politicians will stay in their place while not trying to bully certain businesses.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

What gives you this idea, Navy ?
I'm no conservative, some may consider me to be a communist...BUT, I favor the traditional marriage.....As far as I am concerned, the homosexuals can do their thing - but - for heavens sake, do it in private.
I think a civil union is the answer and the churches can proceed as they see fit...
We do have far, far more important problems to solve...

Earthworm I pretty much agree with everything you said but I really believe this is not really about SSM marriage........I believe its about shoving the gay lifestyle down our throats and makin it as a suitable alternative lifestyle...Its about teaching it in schools when this kind of thing should be handled by parents...The gay lifestyle has nothing to do with reading, writing and arithmitic............

I don't believe the gay and liberal movement is led by a small vocal group of Gays and a bunch of "Feel Good Liberals like Disney Dude........Most gays would be satisfied with civil unions with equal rights...........That is what I would like to although when you hear DD and other libs rant their hatred it starting to turn me off on civil unions to.
 
Re: If a man states I favor tradiional marriage does that make him a bigot or a homop

In fairness people have the right to support/protest and boycott any businesses they wish. It's a matter of free speech and freedom. Surprisingly the ACLU defended Chick-fil-A, which in turn helps me trust that more progressive politicians will stay in their place while not trying to bully certain businesses.

Do mayors have the right to ban Chick Fila from their city because they have a different opinion on SSM?
 
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