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Why would you own an assault rifle?

Would you own an assault Rifle? Why?


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Still doesn't make you a police officer.

Never said I was

but they are civilians just as you and I are

and you still continue to avoid the point that started your 25 or more evasive and dishonest posts

are you afraid to confront my point head on
 
they are civilians just as you and I are

No, they are authorized police officers and get access to weapons that civilians do not.

and you still continue to avoid the point that started your 25 or more evasive and dishonest posts

are you afraid to confront my point head on

Already have, your point was that you think you are entitled to access to the same types of weapons as the police who have been trained and authorized to be police officers.

You are no police officer, but hell you pretend to be a lawyer, you may as well pretend to be a police officer as well. Knock yourself out!
 
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twice a year somewhere near Louisville Ky at a place called KNOB CREEK there is a huge automatic weapons owners convention where massive amounts of ammo is consumed and the public can rent and fire machine guns from small stuff like a Mac 11 to a quad fifty

I don't think anyone has ever been killed or even shot at there

so the clownish crap that the only reason why people "need" automatic weapons is to kill people is just plain clownish

I live about two miles away from Knob Creek, and when this event takes place...it sounds like a Huge War going on.

Generally, the police avoid this area for that week, as it is pretty much a KKK rally.


Anyway....why do people "Need" these weapons then?
 
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Recently, A Democrat senator suggested that he has no idea why anyone would need to have an assault rifle. His ignorance is the premise of his decision to limit the 2nd amendment. To me the answer is pretty easy.

I would own an assault reason for the exact same reason I would own a superfast sports car that is built to exceed legal speed limits. So that if the Chinese drilling off our coast where we are not allowed to ever decided to sneak soldiers and nukes into the gulf instead of oil rig workers and equipment and invaded Florida blitzkrieg style, I'd have a chance of getting out alive.

Seriously though, would you own an assault rifle? And if so, why?
Here are my reasons why I would own an assault rifle; particularly an AR-15:

1. It is every able bodied person's duty to prepare for the zombie apocalypse. Proficiency in assault rifles is among necessary skills in addition to 1st-aid/CPR, defensive driving, basic automotive repair, basic carpentry/plumbing/electrical, brewing and general outdoor's related survival abilities.

2. As a member of the military it would be prudent for me to own the civilian version of my issued service weapon, because we can't draw our issued weapons just whenever we want. I would be willing to put my own time and money into keeping my marksman skills sharp for general proficiency, to get the most possible Promotion Points when my unit annually qualifies, and so I can compete in the Governors 20 Program. A Company I was attached to here in Afghanistan offered to let us buy their commemorative Colt AR-15, but I elected not to.

3. The AR-15 hunts big-game quite well, though I would proffer a model chambered 7.62mm(308) with a longer barrel as opposed to the Army's issued M4 which fires 5.56mm.

4. I wouldn't recommend an AR-15 for home defense against a human due to the high risk of over penetration. However, a home in a rural setting may be wise to keep an AR-15 handy in the event of mountain lions, bears and other pests.

5. Just as some folks enjoy owning and driving certin cars, so do others enjoy owning and shooting certin firearms. In this case it is simply a joy of shooting, or target practice and plinking, and nothing more.
 
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I live about two miles away from Knob Creek, and when this event takes place...it sounds like a Huge War going on.

Generally, the police avoid this area for that week, as it is pretty much a KKK rally.


Anyway....why do people "Need" these weapons then?

Why do you "need" your Xbox? Why do you "need" an iPod? Why do you "need" any nonessential item other than that using it is something you enjoy, and in the case of firearms, something that is Constitutionally protected? And why do you ignore the fact that throughout our history most violent crimes and even firearm related 'mass murders' do NOT involve "assault rifles", yet, there you are, along wih the usual kast of klowns, leading the call for a ban because you don't like it.
 
Meh, rather have more computer gear. :mrgreen:

If I thought things were getting bad enough or close enough to a multi-year disaster I might buy one. Just a hedge against the crazies who are dying to use theirs.
Another engineer company offered to let us buy their commemorative Colt AR-15. The chief reason I turned them down was that I'de rather use the money on a new game computer since Mists of Pandera comes out only a couple weeks after I return home :3oops:

If I thought I had to go up against government, I'd go another way altogether.

The prefatory clause stipulates militia duty, which action taken with the government, not against.
 
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Recently, A Democrat senator suggested that he has no idea why anyone would need to have an assault rifle. His ignorance is the premise of his decision to limit the 2nd amendment. To me the answer is pretty easy.

I would own an assault reason for the exact same reason I would own a superfast sports car that is built to exceed legal speed limits. So that if the Chinese drilling off our coast where we are not allowed to ever decided to sneak soldiers and nukes into the gulf instead of oil rig workers and equipment and invaded Florida blitzkrieg style, I'd have a chance of getting out alive.

Seriously though, would you own an assault rifle? And if so, why?

I don't even like guns AT ALL.....but.....in light of the recent coup d'etat attempt by our own government, I have purchased a couple of street sweepers to combat any domestic terrorists that might think they're going to invade my property line. They're a bit more expensive than say, an SKS you'd buy from your local motorcycle club, but a serious piece of artillery that makes you sleep good at night.
 
I don't even like guns AT ALL.....but.....in light of the recent coup d'etat attempt by our own government, I have purchased a couple of street sweepers to combat any domestic terrorists that might think they're going to invade my property line. They're a bit more expensive than say, an SKS you'd buy from your local motorcycle club, but a serious piece of artillery that makes you sleep good at night.

What's the closest major city to where you live? (Please don't say Philadelphia or Baltimore....)
I'll be more than happy to stay as far away as possible.
 
I live about two miles away from Knob Creek, and when this event takes place...it sounds like a Huge War going on.

Generally, the police avoid this area for that week, as it is pretty much a KKK rally.
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Ludicrously false statement. I know people who go to Knob Creek and it is not remotely anything to do with the KKK. You're straying into gratuitous baiting, Tecoyah.
 
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How is banning assault weapons a unreasonable limit on the second amendment.

RPG are banned. As are tanks.

Why do you need an assault rifle? You don't.
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA et al. v. HELLER
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We also recognize another important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms. Miller said, as we have explained, that the sorts of weapons protected were those "in common use at the time." 307 U. S., at 179. We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of "dangerous and unusual weapons."

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It may be objected that if weapons that are most useful in military service--M-16 rifles and the like--may be banned, then the Second Amendment right is completely detached from the prefatory clause. But as we have said, the conception of the militia at the time of the Second Amendment's ratification was the body of all citizens capable of military service, who would bring the sorts of lawful weapons that they possessed at home to militia duty. It may well be true today that a militia, to be as effective as militias in the 18th century, would require sophisticated arms that are highly unusual in society at large. Indeed, it may be true that no amount of small arms could be useful against modern-day bombers and tanks. But the fact that modern developments have limited the degree of fit between the prefatory clause and the protected right cannot change our interpretation of the right.

FindLaw | Cases and Codes
Pistol: In common use at the time? Yes. Is dangerous and unusual? No.
Rifle: In common use at the time? Yes. Is dangerous and unusual? No.
Automatic rifle: In common use at the time? Yes. Is dangerous and unusual? No.
Hand grenade: In common use at the time? Yes. Is dangerous and unusual? Yes.
Grenade launcher: In common use at the time? Yes. Is dangerous and unusual? Yes.
Rocket launcher: In common use at the time? Yes. Is dangerous and unusual? Yes.
Patriot missile battery: In common use at the time? No. Is dangerous and unusual? Yes.
Nuclear warheads: In common use at the time? No. Is dangerous and unusual? Yes.

OK. SO the only need required for owning crack is that I wish to own it? The only need for owning a meth lab is that I want to own it? The only need for me wanting a nuke is that I want to own it? A tank? A missile launcher? There are no lines, right?
Crack Cocaine: In common use at the time: No. Is dangerous and unusual: Yes.
Methamphetamine: In common use at the time: No. Is dangerous and unusual: Yes.
Meth-lab: In common use at the time: No. Is dangerous and unusual: Yes.
Nuclear weapon: In common use at the time: No. Is dangerous and unusual: Yes.

Tanks are not weapons. Tanks are vehicles weapons can be mounted on, but anyone with enough money to buy one can own a tank. That does not mean you can have a functioning cannon, 50cal machine gun, 2 saw machine guns, or grenades...it means you can have the tank and the tank only. You can own a black hawk helicopter, also...doesn't mean you can have the twin mini-guns.

Concealed carry in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Criminals generally want easy targets. Having a gun makes you a harder target. When you're in a population which carries, you are safer even if you don't carry a gun yourself, because a criminal has no way of knowing if you're carrying concealed or not and doesn't want to risk finding out the hard way.
 
No, they are authorized police officers and get access to weapons that civilians do not.



Already have, your point was that you think you are entitled to access to the same types of weapons as the police who have been trained and authorized to be police officers.

You are no police officer, but hell you pretend to be a lawyer, you may as well pretend to be a police officer as well. Knock yourself out!



since you have had a dozen times to address the point and will not I can only assume you don't have the ability to do so. You are nothing but spamming idiocy on this thread with your evasions
 
I live about two miles away from Knob Creek, and when this event takes place...it sounds like a Huge War going on.

Generally, the police avoid this area for that week, as it is pretty much a KKK rally.


Anyway....why do people "Need" these weapons then?

wow-some really moronic stereotyping going on there

why? because one day people who think like you might want to ban everything you think OTHERS shouldn't have and that weapon might be useful to help me and others put an end to such idiocy
 
Ludicrously false statement. I know people who go to Knob Creek and it is not remotely anything to do with the KKK. You're straying into gratuitous baiting, Tecoyah.

I see...so you know some people, I live here....and you are more informed about my backyard than I am.

"I spent Saturday at the bi-annual Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot, right outside of Louisville, Ky. Gun enthusiasts of all stripes were there — from the National Rifle Association and sportsmen to militia members to white supremacists and Obama birthers. Here’s a collection of choice photos from the show"

Scenes From the Real America | The Washington Independent

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During this event...Knob Creek is no longer just a Shooting Range. It is well established fact in Bulitt County/Louisville. In this case....I think I might be somewhat more informed than you are.
 
I see...so you know some people, I live here....and you are more informed about my backyard than I am.

"I spent Saturday at the bi-annual Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot, right outside of Louisville, Ky. Gun enthusiasts of all stripes were there — from the National Rifle Association and sportsmen to militia members to white supremacists and Obama birthers. Here’s a collection of choice photos from the show"

Scenes From the Real America | The Washington Independent

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During this event...Knob Creek is no longer just a Shooting Range. It is well established fact in Bulitt County/Louisville. In this case....I think I might be somewhat more informed than you are.

well this shows something-lefties hate gun owners not because of guns specifically but because they are conservatives
 
wow-some really moronic stereotyping going on there

why? because one day people who think like you might want to ban everything you think OTHERS shouldn't have and that weapon might be useful to help me and others put an end to such idiocy

This "Moron"...is not only a gun owner, but lives within earshot of the place in question.

I am not stereotyping...instead explaining what this event entails.
 
My simple answer to the OP's question is "Because I want one." (Actually, I'm not interested in guns at all except the Mac 10, the perfect "ladies' gun." :mrgreen: )
 
This "Moron"...is not only a gun owner, but lives within earshot of the place in question.

I am not stereotyping...instead explaining what this event entails.


the klan comment was moronic
 
I see...so you know some people, I live here....and you are more informed about my backyard than I am.

"I spent Saturday at the bi-annual Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot, right outside of Louisville, Ky. Gun enthusiasts of all stripes were there — from the National Rifle Association and sportsmen to militia members to white supremacists and Obama birthers. Here’s a collection of choice photos from the show"

Scenes From the Real America | The Washington Independent

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During this event...Knob Creek is no longer just a Shooting Range. It is well established fact in Bulitt County/Louisville. In this case....I think I might be somewhat more informed than you are.


This is news to me. I know people that go and they are NOT any sort of racists... in talking about the event none of them ever mentioned to me that there were neo-nazi's at the event. Now possibly they were there IN SMALL NUMBERS and my friends chose to completely ignore them and refuse to acknowlege them.

YOU implied the whole thing was a KKK event... which is patently false.
 
Isn't the guy wearing a German hat also have a USA flag on his sleeve

comparing Obama to Hitler is an insult of Obama-not a praise for Nazis
 
You can go to a given event, and choose to focus on the handful of loonies there... and publish only those pictures that support your desire to portray the whole schmeer as a gathering of loonies, and that is what this article was, a smear job using only those pics that supported the agenda: portraying Knob Creek as a gathering of only racists.

Some of us know better.
 
You can go to a given event, and choose to focus on the handful of loonies there... and publish only those pictures that support your desire to portray the whole schmeer as a gathering of loonies, and that is what this article was, a smear job using only those pics that supported the agenda: portraying Knob Creek as a gathering of only racists.

Some of us know better.

It would be like going to a massive gay rights rally-taking pictures of a few guys in plastic miniskirts or dance trunks with the words "insert here" on the rear of the trunks and claim those drag queens were representative of 10,000 others
 
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