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Should Penn State football get the NCAA 'Death Penalty'?
Since anybody who heads the program going forward would likely have had nothing to do with the scandal I see no reason to shelve them.
I say 'yes'.
Though it's really more of 'Temporary Coma' penalty (if SMU was any example).
What? The entire reason for the PSU "scandal" was the cover up, the entire reason for the cover up, was PSU FOOTBALL. To assert, that without PSU football and the MONEY it generated, that there would have been ANY reason for the cover up is baffling. I agree that the NEW players, suckered into signing at PSU, have no blame, but without PSU there is still plenty of opportunity for both college and football, just not there. I say auto "red shirt" them and let them seek scholarships elsewhere. PSU will likely be sued nearly out of existance, to use funds generated by the NEW football players to repay judgements for past ILLEGAL acts is INSANE. The NCAA should not let football (or any sport) subsidize illegal activity past or present.
If they figure out a way to do it without penalizing the players i would be for it. Its not their fault after all. Hopefully there will be criminal charges for the people involved in the cover up.
Only if the NCAA can provide a good answer to this question: why should the thousands of students and numerous athletes who chose that university, and have done nothing wrong, be punished for the actions of a few people?
Not just the players, but other programs and students. Football provides a rather large amount of money to schools through ticket sales, licensing, and other fees. Killing the program entirely because a dead man, a child molester, and a few other idiots made really, really bad decisions is like saying we should kill off all BP exploration/mining because of the Gulf Oil Spill.
Why should they be allowed to help PAY the costs of for those past criminals? Football makes money, court judgements cost money. Where do you suppose the money to pay the massive PSU civil suits will come from? ALL outside funding for those crooks should be stopped.
If they figure out a way to do it without penalizing the players i would be for it. Its not their fault after all. Hopefully there will be criminal charges for the people involved in the cover up.
You stop the outside funding for those crooks by firing those crooks, or providing an ultimatum where the "death penalty" is on the table but can be avoided if PSU gives them the boot. Then it's on PSU itself and to make the decision.
You stop the outside funding for those crooks by firing those crooks, or providing an ultimatum where the "death penalty" is on the table but can be avoided if PSU gives them the boot. Then it's on PSU itself and to make the decision.
I say 'yes'.
Though it's really more of 'Temporary Coma' penalty (if SMU was any example).
Very well put, imo.The tragedy happened because a group of people thought a football program was so damned important that they allowed children to be molested. The NCAA death penalty is needed, not for vengeance, but because too many people at Penn state continue to support that attitude by defending Paterno. A clear message needs to be sent that football is just a game and losing a few seasons is nothing compared to the horror suffered by those kids.
as someone who does not believe in group rights or group sin, no. The penalties should be applied to those involved in abusive or dishonest behavior. The main perpetrator is going to be getting probably a most painful lesson on what happens to child rapists in prison. The head of the program when this happened is dead. Other administrators were fired. Freshman who chose Penn State have no blame. Same with the fans or for that matter any of the current players and certainly not the taxpayers of the state of Pennsylvania.
The fans don't get any sympathy from me or anyone especially after the way they acted after paterno was fired.