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How emotionally invested are you in the 2012 Presidential election?

How emotionally invested are you in politics?

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Zyphlin said:
Do you realize how insulting this is, whether you intended it or not? It's like finding out someone online is black and asking them if they like fried chicken, watermelon, basketball, rap music, and fat assed white women. Someone suggested they didn't like Obama and the first thing you jump to is that it may be because they possibly viewed him as having a bad middle name, hated black people, liked terrorists, and had ties to muslims.
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I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was being offensive. Back in '08 I heard some things coming from the pundits that shocked me. As a republican these were the people I once idolized. I once saw the conservative commentators as the champions of truth and now see them as cleaver propagandists who were not successful in affecting the outcome of the election they way they would have preferred but IMHO were successful, at least to some extent, in polarizing the country in their efforts to vilify the then democrat candidate. I guess I still haven't gotten over it. Again, I'm so sorry for coming across in an offensive way. That was not my intention.
 
Matt Foley said:
In an alternative universe where McCain had won, the exact same thing would have happened.
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Probably. All sides engage in this sort of thing I guess. I just expected more of the republican side. I became a republican not because I liked their tax policy better but because I wanted to support the party that stood for the values of doing the right thing and standing the moral high ground. BTW: I ultimately voted for McCain in '08 for those same reasons.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
I really don't care who wins, because it really doesn't make any difference.
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Mostly you are right, as neither Obama nor Obama-lite is a great leader. But I think the likely SCOTUS appointments made may greatlly affect the nation, for perhaps the next 30 years, so that alone makes me sure to cast my vote in 2012. ;-)
 
Smeagol said:
I really like your honesty.

Did the conservative pundits have any influence on your initial perception of Obama? Middle name is Hussein so that can't be a good sign. Goes to a black nationalist church so must have the same affinity for white people as Louis Farrakhan. His closest friends are terrorists. The man cannot stand America but loves the Islamic Middle East and all of its dictators. Is no friend Israel of Israel. Blah, blah, blah. Did any of that have an affect on your opinion of him?

Interestingly, once elected he goes on to practically wipe Al Qaeda off the map. Appointed a Jew as Chief of Staff who volunteered in the Israeli Civil Air Patrol when Saddam was shoot off Scud missiles at Tel Aviv. Has more whites and fewer blacks in his cabinet than Bush. Key in role in the overthrow of Gaddafi. I digress, sorry.
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I live in the Chicago area, so we here probably got more than most about The Good Reverend Wright and ACORN. That, frankly, was enough for me.

Edit: PS -- While some may have found your comments insulting in general, I didn't.
 
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In the upcoming election between generic tax happy globalist status quo-bot A and generic tax happy globalist status quo-bot B, can't really say I'm emotionally charged either way. I'm actually pretty apathetic at this point. As the Talking Heads said "same as it ever was"
 
Smeagol said:
I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was being offensive. Back in '08 I heard some things coming from the pundits that shocked me. As a republican these were the people I once idolized. I once saw the conservative commentators as the champions of truth and now see them as cleaver propagandists who were not successful in affecting the outcome of the election they way they would have preferred but IMHO were successful, at least to some extent, in polarizing the country in their efforts to vilify the then democrat candidate. I guess I still haven't gotten over it. Again, I'm so sorry for coming across in an offensive way. That was not my intention.
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It's no problem, and I don't personally find it very insulting personally but rather a bit more sad. I don't think it was your intention to be insulting, but I was just more wanting to point out how you basically have a near cartoonish stereotype of a conservative in your head based on what you immediately leapt to.
 
The next handful of years are going to be critical in determining our nations' fiscal future. As someone with kids, I'd say I'm pretty invested in that.
 
I'm pretty invested. But it's my job, so I kinda have to be.
 
Smeagol said:
Just curious. How invested are you emotionally in the outcome of the election?
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I'm moderately invested emotionally. I have a lot of problems with Obama and his policies, so I'm not as emotionally invested as I could be. However, I think the GOP would put our country on a worse path and I would be pretty unhappy if they got the white house and/or Congress.
 
I would be disappointed if Romney lost, but I wouldn't lose much sleep over it.
 
Picked mildly because although I won't vote for the names on the ballot, I feel we can do much better than the names on the ballot. Romney is pathetic in every way but truthfully, I don't see Obama as having a purpose at this point either. Lost hope in him years ago.
 
While I prefer Obama, Romney is not scarey enough to effect me emotionally. Not much will change either way.
 
Paschendale said:
I'm pretty invested. But it's my job, so I kinda have to be.
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Well, of course, it's a surprise to all of us, but I have to say Mr President, of all the forums you could have chosen, debatepolitics was chosen well :). At least here you can be honest about your political lean.
 
I don't find myself much invested in this one. My feeling is that the next four years is going to be the same no matter who is chosen.

My real hope is that congress continues to be divided after the next election. The conservatives have gotten to angry and determined on their end that if it wasn't they would swing to the right, which would then cause a reaction, causing the next group to swing further to the left, which means even further to the right next time around, and its a spiral that I would like to avoid. I hope we take our collective breath as a nation and everyone calms the **** down.
 
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The only fun thing about this whole election is watching all my progressive friends have a fit because I am voting Romney, lol.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Emotionally?

0 - not a bit emotionally.

I avoid basing my political votes on emotional issues.
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Oh pullleaze, women are overflowing with emotion all the time, and you ain't no Vulcan. :lamo
 
Zyphlin said:
It's no problem, and I don't personally find it very insulting personally but rather a bit more sad. I don't think it was your intention to be insulting, but I was just more wanting to point out how you basically have a near cartoonish stereotype of a conservative in your head based on what you immediately leapt to.
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There may be some truth to that. You've got me thinking. You do understand any perception I have is based upon experiences I've had. My email inbox is regularly full of some of the ridiculous stuff from my conservative friends you can imagine. I've engaged many in conversation on the issues and honest to goodness in most cases they seem incapable of putting forth a case unless its based on the current right-wing talking points verbatim, thus making dialog nearly impossible because they seem only equipped to sound off bullet points.

True story: just this week I was having a face to face chat with a conservative friend of mine. This person happens to be a significant player in the GOP. We were talking about energy and of course the conservative position is:

"drill baby drill"
"all of the above"
"develop our own resources"

...verbatim, of course.

I took the opportunity to bring up some factors outside of those talking points making the case for electric cars touching on things like the new advancements being made in electric car technology, the power OPEC has over the US economy, OPECs admitted history of temporarily flooding the market with cheap oil whenever alternative technologies that threaten to end the monopoly oil has on American transportation in order to bankrupt those initiatives, nation security ramifications, etc. and he was totally speechless and just threw his hands up in frustration and couldn't even talk about it because the memorized talking points didn't include answers to those concerns.
 
American said:
Oh pullleaze, women are overflowing with emotion all the time, and you ain't no Vulcan. :lamo
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I've been assured by many men in my life that "I'm not like other women" so apparently my testosterone levels have peaked out exceptionally high and somehow my estrogen has managed to balance with it.

No - I don't vote on emotional issues. . . emotional issues for me are things like abortion, gay marriage, militaria activity, and so forth. I try to focus on the reasonable, political and logical issues - using history, evidence, statistics and facts to back things up. Anything that would lighten my husband's military burden and make our married life easier in that way. . . ending the war, etc etc etc. But I'm not siding on that.

Right now what's important to me is foreign policy and our nation's economic future which encompasses things such as taxation and views on the role government can or should play in economic boosting . . . etc.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
I've been assured by many men in my life that "I'm not like other women" .
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When the roles are reversed, and women tells a man "you are not like other men", that's usually the kiss of death. At least for those women who are strongly into male/female roles, it means she's looking for the bad boy and sees the man as being uninteresting sexually because he is too nice, too emotionally available, and not masculine enough. It's part of that language that often includes the line "you're a nice guy, but......" sort of rap where she has put a man into the "friend only" category rather than "lover".
 
Blackdog said:
The only fun thing about this whole election is watching all my progressive friends have a fit because I am voting Romney, lol.
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It's your vote. Go for it. :coffeepap
 
I voted "very", but only because I am frustrated over the likelihood that nothing will change. It's going to be more of the same old stuff.
 
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