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What should happen to those who renounce their US citizenship?

What should happen to those who renounce their US citizenship?

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What should happen to those who renounce their US citizenship? This a multiple choice poll and users can see how you voted.


Kept out of the US permanently
Banned from doing business with American companies in the US
Banned from doing business with American companies abroad.
Kept out of the US until they pay back taxes.
Their property in the US confiscated and sold to pay back taxes.
The US government should go after them to pay taxes regardless of what country they go to.
Other idea(please specify)
They should be allowed to freely enter the US as long as they have a US passport.
No one should be punished for renouncing their citizenship.
I don't know.



Personally I feel that if someone renounces their American citizenship then they should never be allowed back into the US including it's territories, nor should they be allowed to do business with any American company.I don't care what someone's reasons are for renouncing their citizenship.

If a person renounces US citizenship, they should simply be treated as a non citizen, i.e. require a passport to enter the US, and be subject to all the same laws that non US citizens are subjected to. No more, no less.
 
But if they renounce their citizenship, they wouldn't necessarily have those things. So one who does not have a green-card, passport, or visa from another country who renounces their citizenship would be? Illegal alien. heheheh


Actually, you would necessarily have those things (at least the passport). There are numerous steps to renouncing one’s citizenship but two of the requirements are:

1. Already posses a non-US passport. This means you will have to first secure citizenship from another country before the US State department will accept your paperwork.
2. Set up an appointment at a US embassy or consulate to submit your paperwork in person. Thus, you can’t do it from within the United States.

This site has links to some of the forms:

Renouncing US citizenship : Expat Info Desk
 
treat them the same way Taiwan treats its citizens who becomes US citizens or how Britain treats Brits who become US Citizens
 
treat them the same way Taiwan treats its citizens who becomes US citizens or how Britain treats Brits who become US Citizens

Protecting your options Turtle?
 
Protecting your options Turtle?

My family was one of the founders of Ohio. I don't plan on leaving. I am not a topic here Haymarket. but we should treat those who become citizens of other countries the same way those countries treat the millions of people who become US citizens
 
My family was one of the founders of Ohio. I don't plan on leaving. I am not a topic here Haymarket. but we should treat those who become citizens of other countries the same way those countries treat the millions of people who become US citizens

No we should not. An immigrant born in the other nations of the world did not turn his back on the USA and take a dump on it.

Screw these traitors. Flush them with the other crap.
 
Poll: What should happen to those who renounce their US citizenship?
Be advised that this is a public poll: other users can see the choice(s) you selected.
Kept out of the US permanently
Banned from doing business with American companies in the US
Banned from doing business with American companies abroad.
Kept out of the US until they pay back taxes.
Their property in the US confiscated and sold to pay back taxes.
The US government should go after them to pay taxes regardless of what country they go to.
Other idea (please specify)
They should be allowed to freely enter the US as long as they have a US passport.
No one should be punished for renouncing their citizenship.
I don't know.

Your poll seems to be asking two entirely separate questions. You said in your original post that you don't care what their reasons for renouncing their citizenship are, yet in your poll options you make it very clear that you're talking specifically about people who do it for tax reasons.

So to answer both of your questions, one at a time, no one should be punished merely for renouncing their citizenship. For one thing, they didn't do anything wrong. If they don't want to be an American, fine. If a person born in Germany doesn't want to be an American, surely there's nothing wrong with that. So why would there be anything wrong with a person born in America not wanting to be an American? Why should they be punished for an accident of birth?

As far as people renouncing their citizenship for tax evasion, the answer is that they should be treated just like any other tax fugitive. They should be extradited if possible. If not, then their assets in the US can be seized, and a standing warrant can be issued for their arrest should they ever return to the US. Their citizenship renunciation should have no bearing on this.
 
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We are the land of the FREE. Who cares it is not that big a deal.
 
The only exception to this is that I'd never give them citizenship again if they renounced it once.
I don't see why not, but they would have to take the normal classes just like any other foreign person.
 
Personally I feel that if someone renounces their American citizenship then they should never be allowed back into the US including it's territories, nor should they be allowed to do business with any American company.I don't care what someone's reasons are for renouncing their citizenship.

Um, why? They just don't want to be citizens. And a lot of them have a good reason.

Hell of a "free country" if leaving subjects you to draconian punishments, like being forced to pay taxes to a country you're not even allowed to set foot on, or being treated like a terrorist at the border when all you did was decide you like someplace else better. You can't be serious. That's a type of manipulative confinement designed to force people into being unwilling citizens. That's not free.

No punishment. They are subject to the same rules as any other non-citizen.

If anything, I think renouncing ones citizenship should be easier (not just here, but most places). They make you jump through an insane amount of hoops and even then you may be denied. People shouldn't be unwilling citizens.
 
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Perhaps the reason why you feel so differently that the Democrats you insult has to do with the issue of being an American patriot?

Or, perhaps, using someone's investment portfolio as a measure of their patriotism is really stupid and doesn't prove anything. Perhaps stupid slogans like "buy American" and "betting against America" are idiotic, meaningless trite brought up by politicians in order to appeal to people with a poor understanding of economics. Perhaps Swiss bank accounts aren't evil, and simply a good place for someone who wants to park their money in a place with low taxes, welcoming regulation, an unusually stable currency, and respect for the privacy rights of its clients. Perhaps Romney was "betting against America" no more than someone who buys a Japanese car or Korean electronics. Perhaps in the world of globalized finance a great deal of these Swiss deposits would find their way into loans to American businesses. No, what am I talking about? Of all the things to attack Mitt Romney over, him having a Swiss bank account is the most heinous one.
 
And it's not just the rich. Any citizen, no matter how much they make abroad, is subject to this. I really don't understand the logic of taxing people on money that is not made on US soil. It's abuse, plain and simple. I'm absolutely floored that anyone would stand for this kind of scam.

Shhhhh!! Don't say that Arcana. Politicians can't know that most people who are caught in these situations aren't rich tax dodgers, but normal people who make most, if not all of their money overseas. What else would they talk about when they need more revenue?
 
If anything, I think renouncing ones citizenship should be easier (not just here, but most places). They make you jump through an insane amount of hoops and even then you may be denied. People shouldn't be unwilling citizens.

It's definitely not easy, that's for sure. The more I look into what I need to do, the more complex this gets.
 
The ATF Form 4473 question 11j asks: "Have you ever renounced your United States Citizenship".
 
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I haven't read the thread, so I may be redundant.

Basically I don't believe anyone should be punished for renouncing their citizenship, nor should anyone be banned from returning to the US. They should be treated like any other foreign national with a valid passport.

However, if someone renounces their citizenship and leaves the country owing back income tax, the government should certainly take whatever measures are necessary to retrieve what it is owed, including property confiscation.
 
But if they renounce their citizenship, they wouldn't necessarily have those things. So one who does not have a green-card, passport, or visa from another country who renounces their citizenship would be? Illegal alien. heheheh
There's that "if" qualifier again. If if if....
 
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If Republicans they should be given the Congressional medal of honor,$100,000 bucks cash, kissed on both cheeks before boarding a one flight to Easter Island.
 
I picked "other" in the poll. I think they should be given a box of Cheeze-Its and an autographed picture Edward R Murrow. I don't know why I think that, but I do.
 
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