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Should Romney Be Expected To Release Tax Records and Financial Holding Records?

SHould Romney Release Publically the Info Mentioned?

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If you wanna hold the highest office of the land then declare all your assets for scrutiny including your swiss bank accounts.
 
Redress said:
SO do you think there are any records a presidential candidate should release? Since you feel that you should be the judge of what is relevant or not, what do you consider relevant?
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I find it amusing that the same people who didn't think it was important for Oblama to release all sorts of records think its so important for Romney to release equally IRRELEVANT information

do you admit or deny that the main reason the dems want this is so they can engage in further class warfare
 
RDS said:
If you wanna hold the highest office of the land then declare all your assets for scrutiny including your swiss bank accounts.
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Why? did it ever occur to you that maybe the reason why we don't get the best and the brightest running for president because of this sort of silly attitude you have?
 
TurtleDude said:
I find it amusing that the same people who didn't think it was important for Oblama to release all sorts of records think its so important for Romney to release equally IRRELEVANT information

do you admit or deny that the main reason the dems want this is so they can engage in further class warfare
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Why do you feel it is irrelevant?

Why do you feel the need to call anything you don't like class warfare?
 
Redress said:
Why do you feel it is irrelevant?

Why do you feel the need to call anything you don't like class warfare?
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lets be honest

why do you think the dems are demanding this information
 
TurtleDude said:
Why? did it ever occur to you that maybe the reason why we don't get the best and the brightest running for president because of this sort of silly attitude you have?
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He gonna manage trillions. He needs to be transparent just as the people expects the government to be transparent to gain the trust.
 
RDS said:
He gonna manage trillions. He needs to be transparent just as the people expects the government to be transparent to gain the trust.
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BS on that. and you know it
 
TurtleDude said:
the butt hurt envious losers are being pandered to by rich dems who are going to feign indignation over Romney being wealthy-just like the Kennedys, Kohls, Rockefellers, Boxers, Feinswines, Etc
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Why do you use the same lowgrade tard insults over and over when you dont have any sensible responses..lol..
LISTEN UP EVERYONE...If you dont agree totally with turtle...your an envious , entitlement sucking, leech...its impossible to turtle that anyone that is not poor could possibly disagree with the great one...well look at my name...you found one lol
 
I'm actually with TD in the sense that I think the college stuff is relevant. However, I get there because I also think Romney should disclose willingly, as well. Running for President is very serious. You don't have to be perfect, but you need to be an exceptional individual and willing to go forward without seeming to hide anything. In this position, you become the single most powerful figure in the world. I think that's worthy of showing all your cards before you get there.
 
Redress said:
Why do you feel it is irrelevant?

Why do you feel the need to call anything you don't like class warfare?
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THe need is simple...he has NO other reasonable argument...so its class warfare...leechs suckin on the govt teat...low grade americans wanting everything for nothing from turtledude...and on and on redundantly on and on
 
Redress said:
Much is being made right now of Romney having a Swiss bank account, not having released all his tax records, and his offshore holdings. Is it fair and right to expect him to release all that information to the public?
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No, but it does say that politicians in general are not in the same class as everyday people and they wish to keep that fact hidden.
 
lpast said:
Why do you use the same lowgrade tard insults over and over when you dont have any sensible responses..lol..
LISTEN UP EVERYONE...If you dont agree totally with turtle...your an envious , entitlement sucking, leech...its impossible to turtle that anyone that is not poor could possibly disagree with the great one...well look at my name...you found one lol
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because you constantly spew the same butthurt class envy garbage day in day out. You whine that the rich do this and do that. You piss and moan about the tea party because you think they are going to stop you from sucking off the public teat the rest of your life.

Listen up-you aren't any better off if the rich are taxed more. many poor and middle class people will be worse off. I remember a pillow head clinton slurper who worked at an upscale TGIF. she proudly wore her clinton button on her uniform. So a month after the clinton tax hikes were in place I asked her how things were going. She said her tips were lower. I asked her if she could understand that when wealthy people have their taxes jacked up, the place they are going to stop spending is stuff like tips on waitresses and other non-essential things.

Why don't you tell us how you are better off when other people are taxed more
 
hey guys do you know what this reminds me of, except that it's on a much lower level, with much smaller consequences?

WATERGATE
 
TurtleDude said:
lets be honest

why do you think the dems are demanding this information
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Because they feel it will paint Romney in a negative light. So are you going to stop evading the questions?
 
Redress said:
Because they feel it will paint Romney in a negative light. So are you going to stop evading the questions?
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you have all the information you need now
 
Redress said:
So you do not understand the difference between financial records and college records? That is kinda sad....
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Some have suggested that it's fair game to demand records that Romney has no requirement to provide because he's "touting his business knowledge" and what he does with his money ties into that. The same sort of logic could apply to Obama's educational record since his "intelligent" was touted as one of his strong points and reasons why people should vote for him. While there is a definitive difference between financial records and college reocrds, it's kind of sad that you're so quick to go on the attack that you fail to note that there is a similarity between the two...records. Namely, records that are in no way legally required to be provided during a campaign and which tie into the basis for which the individuals running have used to justify their argument that people should vote for them. In both cases you have individuals who leap to conclussions...such as those on the right suggesting Obama did poorly in school or didn't even go to the schools he suggests or those suggesting that Romney is involved in dirty dealings financially or the various accusations as facts people like lpast are throwing out in this thread...based on the lack of those records being provided. So while they are not absolutely identical things, the situations surrounding the two types of records are somewhat similar.

Romeny should be "expected" to release records he has no requirement to release no more than Obama should be "expected" to release records he has no requirement to release. Whether or not it'd be good...either politically for the candidate or for the public in general...for him to do it is irrelevant as to whether or not he should be "expected" to do it.

If there's sometihng ILLEGAL going on, then it should be investigated and dealt with by the IRS as is the case with breaches of the law. If there's something unethical going on, but not illegal, and it's brought to life then perhaps it becomes an issue. However, the method being used currently is by some on the left in regards to his records is identical in methodology as was used in regards to the school records and even to a point the birth certificate issue. Namely....a demand for information that he in on way is required to give is made. When the individual declines to give into the demands to release information he's not required to release, those individuals making the demands then proceed to proclaim it as some sort of proof that there is wrong doing going on. If the individual then continues to decline after the accusations of wrong doing occur it's then suggested that they're trying to "cover up" and again the demand for release occurs. It's kind of sad that you don't see the exact same methodology playing on out on your own side as it did on the other side previously.
 
To answer the question of the poll, I'd lean to no.

If he did something illegal then he has far more things to worry about then what's going on in the Presidential election. If he's doing anything other than that, then there's no real obligation of him to release it. Politically, releasing it will do no good what so ever. The Democrats have made it a point to make part of their attack on him focus on suggesting he's detached, unable to understand what "the 99%" go through, and demonize him as being an evil rich guy. They are going to do that regardless of whether or not he releases the information. By releasing the information and providing them with further specifics it simply gives them more factual and semi-factual ammo to use to go after him on this point. IF he's engaging in things that are questionable ethicly, then releasing the information is going to harm him not help him. He's already being accused, and having it stated as an abject fact at times, that he's engaging in unethical and "unpatriotic/unamerican" behavior. So if he doesn't release it...he'll get accused of it. If he does release it and he is engaging in such actions, then he'll get accused of it and give them facts to back it up. If he's NOT acting unethically, or not in a way that many would view as unethical, then releasing information is still likely not going to change the fact that he'll still get ACCUSED of having acted unethically and it'd be likely that any bit of information available that can be twisted to try and back that accusation up will stand. At this point, with the way this is being used and how so many on the left are already treating it as something that he's doing in a evil/unamerican/unpatriotic/dirty way, there's little real political benefit, in terms of net effect, to releasing more information then he needs to release.
 
TurtleDude said:
the butt hurt envious losers are being pandered to by rich dems who are going to feign indignation over Romney being wealthy-just like the Kennedys, Kohls, Rockefellers, Boxers, Feinswines, Etc
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what a load of crap....he wants to be Potus, what is being asked of him is pretty standard for all potus candidates....that info gives insight into his thinking, and why he advocates for certain posistions, especially those of economic importance, such as tax rates, tax cuts.....your whole 'hating the rich....being pandered to...blah blah blah' is a huge load of crap...
 
There are legitimate ways that could have happened, just as there are potentially legitimate reasons for parking large sums of money in overseas tax havens. But we don’t know which if any of those legitimate reasons apply in Mr. Romney’s case — because he has refused to release any details about his finances. This refusal to come clean suggests that he and his advisers believe that voters would be less likely to support him if they knew the truth about his investments.

And that is precisely why voters have a right to know that truth. Elections are, after all, in part about the perceived character of the candidates — and what a man does with his money is surely a major clue to his character.

One more thing: To the extent that Mr. Romney has a coherent policy agenda, it involves cutting tax rates on the very rich — which are already, as I said, down by about half since his father’s time. Surely a man advocating such policies has a special obligation to level with voters about the extent to which he would personally benefit from the policies he advocates.

Yet obviously that’s something Mr. Romney doesn’t want to do. And unless he does reveal the truth about his investments, we can only assume that he’s hiding something seriously damaging.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/09/opinion/krugman-mitts-gray-areas.html?_r=1
 
lpast said:
Oh thats crap...every other candidate for president was asked the same questions...FROM BOTH SIDES turtle not just democrats
If you want to be president of the united states...how you made your money, what youve done with it and how your hiding it to avoid taxs should be public knowledge, because it reflects on your character and gives the voters a basis to judge the rest of what comes out of your mouth.....and it goes for all candidates not just republicans...if roles were reversed you would be clammering from atop the sears building for obama to give it up...
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And a lot of the same people who demand to see Romney's now would be the people twisting and contorting every reason why Obama shouldn't be expected to. That's the the thing about claims of hypocrisy, it always cuts both ways.
 
Zyphlin said:
Some have suggested that it's fair game to demand records that Romney has no requirement to provide because he's "touting his business knowledge" and what he does with his money ties into that. The same sort of logic could apply to Obama's educational record since his "intelligent" was touted as one of his strong points and reasons why people should vote for him. While there is a definitive difference between financial records and college reocrds, it's kind of sad that you're so quick to go on the attack that you fail to note that there is a similarity between the two...records. Namely, records that are in no way legally required to be provided during a campaign and which tie into the basis for which the individuals running have used to justify their argument that people should vote for them. In both cases you have individuals who leap to conclussions...such as those on the right suggesting Obama did poorly in school or didn't even go to the schools he suggests or those suggesting that Romney is involved in dirty dealings financially or the various accusations as facts people like lpast are throwing out in this thread...based on the lack of those records being provided. So while they are not absolutely identical things, the situations surrounding the two types of records are somewhat similar.

Romeny should be "expected" to release records he has no requirement to release no more than Obama should be "expected" to release records he has no requirement to release. Whether or not it'd be good...either politically for the candidate or for the public in general...for him to do it is irrelevant as to whether or not he should be "expected" to do it.

If there's sometihng ILLEGAL going on, then it should be investigated and dealt with by the IRS as is the case with breaches of the law. If there's something unethical going on, but not illegal, and it's brought to life then perhaps it becomes an issue. However, the method being used currently is by some on the left in regards to his records is identical in methodology as was used in regards to the school records and even to a point the birth certificate issue. Namely....a demand for information that he in on way is required to give is made. When the individual declines to give into the demands to release information he's not required to release, those individuals making the demands then proceed to proclaim it as some sort of proof that there is wrong doing going on. If the individual then continues to decline after the accusations of wrong doing occur it's then suggested that they're trying to "cover up" and again the demand for release occurs. It's kind of sad that you don't see the exact same methodology playing on out on your own side as it did on the other side previously.
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The point being however is that school records are significantly different than financial records, and one key difference is that school records are not the topic of the thread.
 
I agree with Jet that it doesnt really matter...but if we are clamoring for an open book status then go all the way...education records, military records, finance records, tax records, campaign contributions, blackberry and email accounts...the whole shootin match.
 
Oh...and lets include full disclosure on home and property dealings, how spouses manage to land sweatheart jobs which they have no qualifications for and what those 'salaries' entail, etc.

Selective 'disclosure is bull****. What you are really saying is my guys **** isnt important...but your guys ****...thats critical....
 
Redress said:
The point being however is that school records are significantly different than financial records, and one key difference is that school records are not the topic of the thread.
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They absolutely can be related in regards to the thinking behind whether or not Romney should be expected to release tax records or if one believes he should release the tax records. In so far as suggesting that if one side isn't releasing non-required records that backup one of the basis's for which they suggest people should vote for their candidate (his intelligence) then the person doesn't feel that Romney should have to release non-required records that backup the basis for which his people suggest you should vote for his candidate (Business acumen).
 
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