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Do Liberals Hate "Cold" People?

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  • Yes, liberals are self-hating cold people.

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One of the things liberals seem to have in common is a belief that people are naturally emotionally driven, and that anyone who isn't deserves to be suspected of guilt from the instant you meet them. If you're not active nor active in a compatible way, liberals really enjoy making a popular appeal to emotional misery, expecting those who feel differently to conform or be institutionalized.

I suspect this is why liberals support universal health care, welfare, environmental regulation, demographic equality, and labor reform. Ultimately, it's a psychological issue. Liberals just don't understand (or care) how different people can feel differently. They don't realize how everyone isn't born with fiery emotional gumption, and resist letting "cold" people take their time, planning out how to live their own lives.

It's like they deliberately want to sabotage cool minds in order to prevent them from getting ahead. That way, they become dependent on bureaucracy to fix their problems and help them assimilate into society. Besides, bureaucrats need jobs too. If it ain't broke, and you're a repairman, you need to break something in order to fix it.
 
One of the things liberals seem to have in common is a belief that people are naturally emotionally driven, and that anyone who isn't deserves to be suspected of guilt from the instant you meet them. If you're not active nor active in a compatible way, liberals really enjoy making a popular appeal to emotional misery, expecting those who feel differently to conform or be institutionalized.

I suspect this is why liberals support universal health care, welfare, environmental regulation, demographic equality, and labor reform. Ultimately, it's a psychological issue. Liberals just don't understand (or care) how different people can feel differently. They don't realize how everyone isn't born with fiery emotional gumption, and resist letting "cold" people take their time, planning out how to live their own lives.

It's like they deliberately want to sabotage cool minds in order to prevent them from getting ahead. That way, they become dependent on bureaucracy to fix their problems and help them assimilate into society. Besides, bureaucrats need jobs too. If it ain't broke, and you're a repairman, you need to break something in order to fix it.



Multiculturism is a big thing to liberals.

Why should we live with people who are different from us?
 
I don't know, don't really care. People of all political leans have hated me for one reason or another, and zero is the number of ****s I give.
 
Multiculturism is a big thing to liberals.

Why should we live with people who are different from us?

Exactly.

Liberals engage in emotional prejudice because they want others to feel what it's like being discriminated against for being different.

The problem is liberals don't care about how they're exercising reverse racism even against innocents.

I remember growing up being taught about diversity, and I never really cared about that. If you were different, you were different. So what?

But liberals insisted on calling people prejudiced, and if you didn't partake in affirmative action, you were a racist.

President Bush said you're either with us or against us when invading Iraq. Liberals are no different.
 
Exactly.

Liberals engage in emotional prejudice because they want others to feel what it's like being discriminated against for being different.

The problem is liberals don't care about how they're exercising reverse racism even against innocents.

I remember growing up being taught about diversity, and I never really cared about that. If you were different, you were different. So what?

But liberals insisted on calling people prejudiced, and if you didn't partake in affirmative action, you were a racist.

President Bush said you're either with us or against us when invading Iraq. Liberals are no different.

Where do you come up with this stuff?
 
Liberals do seem, in the general sense and with exceptions, to be more emotion-driven than conservatives or other ideologies.


Emotion is not to be despised, though; it is one of the things that makes us human, along with intellect and opposable thumbs. Emotionless persons have many difficulties relating to others and to society. If humans were not sometimes motivated by emotions, by compassion, we could well end up with a very callous (if not brutal) society.

IMHO a balance is needed, but probably a balance that leans a bit more towards logic and reason than toward emotion.
 
Where do you come up with this stuff?

I was accused of being racist in my "African American Heritage" poll despite not having a racist bone in my body.

Anyway, New York sucks. They indoctrinate students in multiculturalism from the time you're 4-5 years old.

I also attended a university with an extensive education program, and the next generation's teachers are very obviously reiterated in the same dogma, appealing to the garbage moral lessons they learned growing up.

It's so bad that if you're not a multiculturalist, then you're a racist.
 
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One of the things liberals seem to have in common is a belief that people are naturally emotionally driven, and that anyone who isn't deserves to be suspected of guilt from the instant you meet them.
I am not commenting your assessment of some group of people. But, I do think that any human who thinks that they're primarily rational critter is fooling himself. IME, people are capable of rationality, but we're not rational creatures.
Iirc, there's even been some research with brain scans etc which suggests that even though we make some decisions first and justify them later, subjectively it seems that we thought it out first and then made our decision.

Pardon my interruption of this bait thread.
 
I was accused of being racist in my "African American Heritage" poll despite not having a racist bone in my body.

Anyway, New York sucks. They indoctrinate students in multiculturalism from the time you're 4-5 years old.

I also attended a university with an extensive education program, and the next generation's teachers are very obviously reiterated in the same dogma, appealing to the garbage moral lessons they learned growing up.

It's so bad that if you're not a multiculturalist, then you're a racist.


I don't have a problem with a certain level of multiculturalism.

If you want to keep some traditions from your homeland alive within your family/community, that's fine. Celebrate Cinco de Mayo, go nuts over the World Cup, whatever. If you want your children to be billingual in your native tongue as well as English, fine. Cook your national cuisine, no problemo.

Where I think multiculturalism becomes a problem is when we try to view all cultures as equal, and refuse to define a certain set of core values as distinctly American values that ought to be universal across the nation.

For instance, we ought to have a common language, and it ought to be English because that's what most people here speak and it is our original common-tongue. If you and I are both American, but we are unable to communicate because neither of us speaks the other's language, THAT is a HUGE problem in achieving any sort of national unity or common identity.
 
I am not commenting your assessment of some group of people. But, I do think that any human who thinks that they're primarily rational critter is fooling himself. IME, people are capable of rationality, but we're not rational creatures.

Oh, don't get me wrong. Liberals are very intelligent. They're socially manipulative like nobody else and deliberately engage in irrationality so other people have to think for them.
 
Anyway, New York sucks. They indoctrinate students in multiculturalism from the time you're 4-5 years old.
That's the school system. When I was in school, we were constantly told that we're all special little snowflakes, and that we're all unique... but we're all the same. It's what you get when a system is based on egalitarianism.
 
You forgot to include an option for "Rootebega" in your poll, BTW.
 
I am not commenting your assessment of some group of people. But, I do think that any human who thinks that they're primarily rational critter is fooling himself. IME, people are capable of rationality, but we're not rational creatures.
Iirc, there's even been some research with brain scans etc which suggests that even though we make some decisions first and justify them later, subjectively it seems that we thought it out first and then made our decision.

Pardon my interruption of this bait thread.
I agree with this. And commenting within the context of this bait thread, I will also say that I think it's a pretty common thing in all ideologies for a significant number of their members to be driven by emotions when it comes to politics. Emotions often drive people and their positions on welfare, abortion, SSM, stem cell research, foreign policy and so on. In fact, I would suspect that for the majority of people, emotion is the primary driver whether it's conservative, liberal or anything else. It's rare to find people driven primarily or solely by reason which is why it's so difficult to have a logical conversation on politics with people.
 
Where I think multiculturalism becomes a problem is when we try to view all cultures as equal, and refuse to define a certain set of core values as distinctly American values that ought to be universal across the nation.
I think that's only a problem for those who have a problem with it much in the same way your idea of having a clearly defined American culture is only a problem for those who have a problem with that. Neither is inherently problematic, but only relatively so, which, from what I've seen, is actually the basis for viewing all/many cultures as equal. The fact that cultures are only good relative to whatever perspective we have makes it more difficult and less desirable (for certain people) to elevate one above all others, particularly in a country built on more than one culture.
 
I agree with this. And commenting within the context of this bait thread, I will also say that I think it's a pretty common thing in all ideologies for a significant number of their members to be driven by emotions when it comes to politics. Emotions often drive people and their positions on welfare, abortion, SSM, stem cell research, foreign policy and so on. In fact, I would suspect that for the majority of people, emotion is the primary driver whether it's conservative, liberal or anything else. It's rare to find people driven primarily or solely by reason which is why it's so difficult to have a logical conversation on politics with people.

Can you show how liberals are reasonable or conservatives are emotional?
 
To a limited degree, I actually agree with the OP. (Please don't hurt me!) I grew up with an Asperger's diagnosis - quiet, distant, generally wearing a neutral expression (that would be inevitably interpreted as a frown). I never had a problem with that, but a lot of other kids and adults did and would try to make me come out my shell, no matter how much I the turtle protested. From the little I could ascertain from their limited discussion of political issues, these people were indeed overwhelmingly progressives.
 
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I don't think either side is particularly more emotional than the other. I'll agree that some liberal impulses are based on a sense of compassion for those less fortunate. But some are quite rational. The non-crazy portions of the environmentalist movements are very rational. "If we keep screwing up the planet, we will all die." That's pretty rational. The ones who are afraid of "Frankenfood" are being quite irrational, though. But on the other side, a lot of conservatives are irrationally afraid of non-Christians. They apparently think that members of different religions must be in conflict. Then there's the coldly logical ideas of "the government spends too much money" (it does), and "we shouldn't spend more money than we have" (we shouldn't).

I don't honestly see more or less emotion from either camp. Nor do I think emotion is necessarily bad. I think emotion and feelings can be a great source for ideas, social or political. But then those ideas need to be examined logically.
 
To a limited degree, I actually agree with the OP. (Please don't hurt me!) I grew up with an Asperger's diagnosis - quiet, distant, generally wearing a neutral expression (that would be inevitably interpreted as a frown). I never had a problem with that, but a lot of other kids and adults did and would try to make me come out my shell, no matter how much I the turtle protested. From the little I could ascertain from their limited discussion of political issues, these people were indeed overwhelmingly progressives.
But here's the thing, I think you're pointing to particular TYPES of emotion. I would say liberals are more prone to the "mushy" emotions like empathy, sympathy and so on which is why we get the nickname "bleeding hearts" and why non-liberals tend to brush us off as "idealists" and such. However, I would say conservatives are prone to other, more hostile, types of emotions which are "colder" in nature.
 
To a limited degree, I actually agree with the OP. (Please don't hurt me!) I grew up with an Asperger's diagnosis - quiet, distant, generally wearing a neutral expression (that would be inevitably interpreted as a frown). I never had a problem with that, but a lot of other kids and adults did and would try to make me come out my shell, no matter how much I the turtle protested. From the little I could ascertain from their limited discussion of political issues, these people were indeed overwhelmingly progressives.

I have to disagree. It has nothing to do with politics, or political leans, as much as a social drive. I ****ing hate social situations. I drink alone, I only speak to others irl when there is reason to do so, and I absolutely despise having attention drawn to me by others, which results in a seething hatred of those who called the attention. I don't have birthday parties, "da club" or holiday celebrations. People of various political leans have tried, and failed to get me "out of my shell". It's a societal expectation that one be open, generous, and "chatty". Anyone who isn't is assumed to be strange, weird, or some kind of deviant. It's a view shared by the conservatives, as well as the liberals, and many others.
 
Liberals do seem, in the general sense and with exceptions, to be more emotion-driven than conservatives or other ideologies.


Emotion is not to be despised, though; it is one of the things that makes us human, along with intellect and opposable thumbs. Emotionless persons have many difficulties relating to others and to society. If humans were not sometimes motivated by emotions, by compassion, we could well end up with a very callous (if not brutal) society.

IMHO a balance is needed, but probably a balance that leans a bit more towards logic and reason than toward emotion.

Doubt it. Conservatives and liberals just display their emotions about different subjects. You want to see a conservative get emotional? Say you are going to raise taxes on the rich to pay for a subsidy that helps teach poor children life skills. You will see some emotions - mostly crying, bitching, and moaning - but emotions none the less.
 
I'll disagree. Ever tried debating a Conservative on abortion? It's based almost exclusively on feeling. There is little scientific or philosophic evidence behind their claims. Also, I'd consider Conservatives more emotional when it impacts them as opposed to Liberals who are more emotional when it impacts others.
 
I think that's only a problem for those who have a problem with it much in the same way your idea of having a clearly defined American culture is only a problem for those who have a problem with that. Neither is inherently problematic, but only relatively so, which, from what I've seen, is actually the basis for viewing all/many cultures as equal. The fact that cultures are only good relative to whatever perspective we have makes it more difficult and less desirable (for certain people) to elevate one above all others, particularly in a country built on more than one culture.


I would have to disagree. I believe that some cultures are self-evidently superior to others. For instance, there's the culture of Afganistan under the Taliban, where schoolgirls were burned for daring to learn to read. There's are or have been cultures that were built on conquest and slavery, horrific exploitation of the masses by the rulers, denigration of women into virtual slavery, a general devaluation of life, disdain for education and science and progress, and so on.

Some cultures are better at promoting the greatest good for the greatest number; some suck at it. Some cultures tolerate and even promote constant petty thievery, quasi-random acts of severe violence, unbelieveably harsh punishments for relatively minor offenses, pandemic corruption, and institutional inequality.

In brief, some cultures are just plain ****ed up.

Others plainly and clearly promote productivity, prosperity, peace, honesty, ethics, virtue and benevolence far more so than most.

Another way of putting it is that some cultures are based on the best-possible solution to the Prisoner's Dilemma, and others are based on far less than optimal solutions.
 
Doubt it. Conservatives and liberals just display their emotions about different subjects. You want to see a conservative get emotional? Say you are going to raise taxes on the rich to pay for a subsidy that helps teach poor children life skills. You will see some emotions - mostly crying, bitching, and moaning - but emotions none the less.


It was a general comment, and as I noted there are exceptions.

Chiefly, in debating liberals on issues relating to war, the military, gun control, and excessive social spending I find that I often run headfirst into emotion-based arguments that are impervious to reason.

Not to say that there aren't issues conservatives get emotional about. Patriotism is one that springs to mind.
 
Is this really a thread about how liberals generalize, while simultaneously generalizing liberals? :confused:
 
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