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African American Heritage

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  • No, blacks lack heritage.

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If MLK Day, Black History Month, Kwanzaa, and other political "holidays" didn't exist, would African Americans have anything to celebrate?
 
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probably they must have lost everything except their color..
 
Among other things such as cultural or traditions passed down from generation to generation, there is Juneteenth.* Besides I see Black History month as a time set aside where the Black heritage, history and contributions are discussed rather than something political. Many ethnic or cultural groups have time set aside in a similar fashion to denote and celebrate themselves and their contributions to the US and society. Moreover, I do not perceive MLK whose work has benefited an entire country in the area of civil rights as a celebration of a "Black" holiday any more than I see Presidents day as a white holiday.

*"Juneteenth is the oldest nationally celebrated commemoration of the ending of slavery in the United States. From its Galveston, Texas origin in 1865, the observance of June 19th as the African American Emancipation Day has spread across the United States and beyond."
Juneteenth World Wide Celebration
 
If MLK Day, Black History Month, Kwanzaa, and other political "holidays" didn't exist, would African Americans have anything to celebrate?

You left out the most important choice, to celebrate as Americans.
 
Among other things such as cultural or traditions passed down from generation to generation, there is Juneteenth.* Besides I see Black History month as a time set aside where the Black heritage, history and contributions are discussed rather than something political. Many ethnic or cultural groups have time set aside in a similar fashion to denote and celebrate themselves and their contributions to the US and society. Moreover, I do not perceive MLK whose work has benefited an entire country in the area of civil rights as a celebration of a "Black" holiday any more than I see Presidents day as a white holiday.

*"Juneteenth is the oldest nationally celebrated commemoration of the ending of slavery in the United States. From its Galveston, Texas origin in 1865, the observance of June 19th as the African American Emancipation Day has spread across the United States and beyond."
Juneteenth World Wide Celebration

Sorry but I disagree. Presidents Day is an American holiday, not a white holiday.
 
If MLK Day, Black History Month, Kwanzaa, and other political "holidays" didn't exist, would African Americans have anything to celebrate?

This thread is a perfect example of why you should not get your talking points from Stormfront: because you will get ****ing stupid talking points.

MLK day: not about being black, but about celebrating one of the great Americans of the last 50 years. When are you so fixated on race? Is presidents day a white holiday? Your logic suggests it would be.

Black History Month: Maybe you missed it, but the history taught in most schools is very Eurocentric. There is no harm is looking at history of other areas, and I would similarly like an Asian history month.

Kwanzaa: Really? Not even a national holiday, and I do not know one black person who actually celebrates it, and you want to make a big deal about it? Do you get pissed off about Saint Patrick's day too? Cinco De Mayo? Yesterday was Tanabata. Did you get worked up about it?

Race baiting, poorly constructed, and with a complete lack of thinking involved, this is a major failure of a poll.
 
Sorry but I disagree. Presidents Day is an American holiday, not a white holiday.

Go back and read his post. He did not say it was a white holiday. In fact, the opposite....
 
If I understand the question correctly it's asking if you take away all the holidays associated with a group of people whether they would have any holidays left?
 
Sorry but I disagree. Presidents Day is an American holiday, not a white holiday.

Because this can be such a highly charged topic and I do not want to be seen as a racist as a result of you post, I am going to ask you to revisit what I wrote, "Moreover, I do not perceive MLK whose work has benefited an entire country in the area of civil rights as a celebration of a "Black" holiday any more than I see Presidents day as a white holiday."
 
If I understand the question correctly it's asking if you take away all the holidays associated with a group of people whether they would have any holidays left?

It's a weird question, but I think it centers around Dak calling them "political" holidays. I'm guessing this came up because of Chris Rock's tweet about the 4th of July being a white holiday.
 
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MLK day: not about being black, but about celebrating one of the great Americans of the last 50 years. When are you so fixated on race?

Why is he great?

Is presidents day a white holiday? Your logic suggests it would be.

I'm not sure what the Presidency has to do with being white.

Black History Month: Maybe you missed it, but the history taught in most schools is very Eurocentric. There is no harm is looking at history of other areas, and I would similarly like an Asian history month.

OK, so what history are we talking about?

Kwanzaa: Really? Not even a national holiday, and I do not know one black person who actually celebrates it,

If black people don't celebrate it, why does it exist?

and you want to make a big deal about it? Do you get pissed off about Saint Patrick's day too? Cinco De Mayo? Yesterday was Tanabata. Did you get worked up about it?

No. Those holidays actually have narratives behind them.

If anything, people got worked up in fabricating something as superficial as Kwanzaa.
 
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Why is he great?

Helped a significant portion of our population fight for and attain more equal rights, and did so emphasizing peaceful methods. Have you taken any history courses at all?

I'm not sure what the Presidency has to do with being white.

Hey, the point is almost going home for you. The presidency has nothing to do with race, nor does contributing to your country. When you look at MLK, you see a black man, I see a man. It is a large difference.

OK, so what history are we talking about?

We should talk about all of it.

If black people don't celebrate it, why does it exist?

Well, proof that there are dumb questions.

No. Those holidays actually have narratives behind them.

As do the holidays you mentioned.

Your race baiting failed, sorry.
 
Helped a significant portion of our population fight for and attain more equal rights, and did so emphasizing peaceful methods. Have you taken any history courses at all?

Equal rights for which significant portion?

Hey, the point is almost going home for you. The presidency has nothing to do with race, nor does contributing to your country. When you look at MLK, you see a black man, I see a man. It is a large difference.

Your mindreading skills need more work.

You also seem to be ignoring how so many black men emulate MLK as a role model.

We should talk about all of it.

What black history should we talk about?

As do the holidays you mentioned.

What narrative does Kwanzaa have?
 
If you don't have respect for what MLK accomplished and in a peaceful way, you're doing it wrong.

Certainly, but what did MLK accomplish?
 
Certainly, but what did MLK accomplish?

You really are trolling for a bad response simply so you can say - "See I told ya so!" Useless and racist in its basic premise while showing great ignorance of your nation's history.

If you have ever had a blood transfusion, you must give credit to a black man. I'll let you do the Google
 
You really are trolling for a bad response simply so you can say - "See I told ya so!" Useless and racist in its basic premise while showing great ignorance of your nation's history.

If you have ever had a blood transfusion, you must give credit to a black man. I'll let you do the Google

Since you're a socialist, I pity you for not understanding the difference between culture and ethnicity.

Here's a hint - who you are is defined beyond what you are. Historical materialism isn't the end all to be all.
 
Since you're a socialist, I pity you for not understanding the difference between culture and ethnicity.

Here's a hint - who you are is defined beyond what you are. Historical materialism isn't the end all to be all.


More failure to actually defend one's starting premise. How do one's political and economic views cause misunderstanding of sociological questions? You know so little of the world you must lay the same lack of knowledge upon others - shame that.
 
This thread is a perfect example of why you should not get your talking points from Stormfront: because you will get ****ing stupid talking points.

MLK day: not about being black, but about celebrating one of the great Americans of the last 50 years. When are you so fixated on race? Is presidents day a white holiday? Your logic suggests it would be.


Black History Month: Maybe you missed it, but the history taught in most schools is very Eurocentric. There is no harm is looking at history of other areas, and I would similarly like an Asian history month.

Kwanzaa: Really? Not even a national holiday, and I do not know one black person who actually celebrates it, and you want to make a big deal about it? Do you get pissed off about Saint Patrick's day too? Cinco De Mayo? Yesterday was Tanabata. Did you get worked up about it?

Race baiting, poorly constructed, and with a complete lack of thinking involved, this is a major failure of a poll.
No votes and I hope it stays that way...
Even obtuse I was suspicious of this thread and its reason for being..
 
Certainly, but what did MLK accomplish?

He was a leader. He brought attention to just how ugly racial segregation was, not by urging riot or violence, but by peaceful protest. He was a uniter of people and that is very rare.
 
More failure to actually defend one's starting premise. How do one's political and economic views cause misunderstanding of sociological questions? You know so little of the world you must lay the same lack of knowledge upon others - shame that.

I started with a question, not a premise.

What's a shame is you assume implicit meaning instead of evaluating what's asked in itself.
 
He was a leader. He brought attention to just how ugly racial segregation was, not by urging riot or violence, but by peaceful protest. He was a uniter of people and that is very rare.

Which race was segregated, and which people was united?
 
Which race was segregated, and which people was united?

And we see the problem here. You see things in terms of race. The rest of us are seeing things in terms of people. The problem is not with the holidays you mentioned, but with your race based views. There is a reason no one is playing your juvenile games.
 
And we see the problem here. You see things in terms of race. The rest of us are seeing things in terms of people. The problem is not with the holidays you mentioned, but with your race based views. There is a reason no one is playing your juvenile games.

Without race, how is MLK's achievement valuable?
 
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