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Mandatory Organ Donation

After death do you think it should be mandated that organs are used to save lives?


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Wake

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Have you ever watched your uncle wither away and die over the course of five years, never to receive the pair of lungs he was waiting for?

I view humans as the animal-monkey homo sapien. We're typically hairless monkeys suspended in a rock in space. Unlike other animals we have heightened intelligence. Like ants and other creatures we crave order, efficiency, survival.

Once we die our right to our organs should die as well. How many people have to suffer and wait for organs that they may not ever receive? If you failed the birth lottery and are poor, chances are you won't be able to shunt money towards getting an organ faster.

No, you have no right to your organs when you die. Your organs will be used to save the lives of others desperately in need. Our country would be a much better place if we didn't waste the perfectly useable organs of the deceased. Think about it. How many people would you say are waiting for a new heart, lung, liver, etc? What if you found yourself waiting? Waiting. Waiting. Deteriorating. Hoping. Dying.

No more. Do away with voluntary donations. Make it mandatory for the benefit of all. What, you think you need your rotting organ after you're dead? No, you most certainly don't. It could be better put towards saving the life of another human being. It would take some strain off of our healthcare system if we had ready access to life-saving organs/tissue/whatever.

I think this is what's best for America.
 
Wake needs to play Alpha Centauri.

That way, he can truly appreciate the wisdom of Hive Chairman Yang.
 
I am a designated organ donor. Basically, once I die, they can take whatever they can use then just burn the rest. Organ donation absolutely should not be mandatory though. It needs to be a voluntary and personal choice for the individual's and their families.
 
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Wake needs to play Alpha Centauri.

That way, he can truly appreciate the wisdom of Hive Chairman Yang.


I'm unclear on what point you're making. Would you please clarify what you mean?
 
I am a designated organ donor. Basically, once I die, they can take whatever they can use then just burn the rest. Organ donation absolutely should not be mandatory, though.

Why? ...........
 
I am a designated organ donor. Basically, once I die, they can take whatever they can use then just burn the rest. Organ donation absolutely should not be mandatory, though.

^^^ What he said.

Some people may not be comfortable with that idea and their loved ones who are still alive may have issues with it as well. Life is too short to tell people what do with their bodies.
 
No, people should be able to have their bodies handled as they want to after they die. Having such a requirement would be a disaster for a nation that puts such an emphasis on freedom and particularly religious freedom.
 
Yet if you die, you're no longer alive on this earth to exercise any sort of freedom. Rights should end, like marriage, upon death. That's my take on it.
 
Yet if you die, you're no longer alive on this earth to exercise any sort of freedom. Rights should end, like marriage, upon death. That's my take on it.
So, you think that when you die, your body should belong to who? The state?
 
Yet if you die, you're no longer alive on this earth to exercise any sort of freedom. Rights should end, like marriage, upon death. That's my take on it.

That depends on what religion/spirituality you subscribe to. And even from an agnostic/atheist stand point it's still your body even after death.

And dude, if you think you don't have a right to your body after death, then you certainly shouldn't believe in any inheritances or passing down of money.
 
So, you think that when you die, your body should belong to who? The state?

I don't think organs should go to waste when people are suffering and dying due to a lack of available organs.

The state should own it afterwards, because the deceased certainly is unable. There's a brief window to use those organs to save lives.
 
That depends on what religion/spirituality you subscribe to. And even from an agnostic/atheist stand point it's still your body even after death.

And dude, if you think you don't have a right to your body after death, then you certainly shouldn't believe in any inheritances or passing down of money.

I disagree with tha philosophy. I don't think you own your body after you're dead and gone.

Inheritance is far different. A dead person has already dictated through will that his/her money will go to a living recipient. That is different.
 
I disagree with tha philosophy. I don't think you own your body after you're dead and gone.

Inheritance is far different. A dead person has already dictated through will that his/her money will go to a living recipient. That is different.

Why can't he/she dictate that about the body as well as the money?
 
I don't think organs should go to waste when people are suffering and dying due to a lack of available organs.

The state should own it afterwards, because the deceased certainly is unable. There's a brief window to use those organs to save lives.

Well hell, why wait until death? Most of us could afford to spare a kidney. Why not make donating one of those mandatory too? Shoot, make blood and bone marrow donation mandatory as well. Afterall, all your arguments about how people need them would still apply.
 
Yet if you die, you're no longer alive on this earth to exercise any sort of freedom. Rights should end, like marriage, upon death. That's my take on it.

I'll go with the slippery slope argument on this one. I support voluntary organ donation but if it ever became mandatory it wouldn't be long before advocates would begin pushing for euthanasia of those they considered inferior or undesirable in order to harvest their organs. In communist China organs are taken from those executed by the government. Who knows how many have been slaughtered for their body parts?
 
Why can't he/she dictate that about the body as well as the money?

Well, who is inheriting the person's dead body, and how is that person going to use the dead body? Usually dead bodies don't make good currency.
 
Well hell, why wait until death? Most of us could afford to spare a kidney. Why not make donating one of those mandatory too? Shoot, make blood and bone marrow donation mandatory as well. Afterall, all your arguments about how people need them would still apply.

No, a person has rights while living.

Blood is typically easier to donate than organs because blood can be rejuvenated slowly.
 
I'll go with the slippery slope argument on this one. I support voluntary organ donation but if it ever became mandatory it wouldn't be long before advocates would begin pushing for euthanasia of those they considered inferior or undesirable in order to harvest their organs. In communist China organs are taken from those executed by the government. Who knows how many have been slaughtered for their body parts?

Well, I think people have rights while alive, so I would never advocate for mandatory euthanasia.
 
I don't think organs should go to waste when people are suffering and dying due to a lack of available organs.

The state should own it afterwards, because the deceased certainly is unable. There's a brief window to use those organs to save lives.
Having the state own dead bodies is a horrible idea. Not only would it open up incredible abuses, it would deprive families of proper burials and it would prevent dead people from having the post mortem rituals that they want to have. The state can barely do the right thing with living people. It's dangerous to give it so much control over dead people.
 
Well, who is inheriting the person's dead body, and how is that person going to use the dead body? Usually dead bodies don't make good currency.

What's it your business? They could want the whole body cremated or buried. Like having someone die isn't painful enough for the family, now we are going to tell people, "hey screw what you believe in we need those body parts."

Seems like a bad idea.
 
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I don't think organs should go to waste when people are suffering and dying due to a lack of available organs.

The state should own it afterwards, because the deceased certainly is unable. There's a brief window to use those organs to save lives.

Here's a question, genius. If you die at 90, who the hell is going to want your organs?

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When I was getting checked out for a heart transplant I had to do stress test. The guy that was doing the test gave me form to say yes or no to releasing my organs for transplant in case I passed away. I looked the like are you serious ? Hello I'm in frggin heart transplant center
 
Having the state own dead bodies is a horrible idea. Not only would it open up incredible abuses, it would deprive families of proper burials and it would prevent dead people from having the post mortem rituals that they want to have. The state can barely do the right thing with living people. It's dangerous to give it so much control over dead people.

With any mandate passed, like Obamacare for example, there is the risk of abuses. They would be punitized through the legal system to the fullest extent.

Families would likely have the body in time for burial. I'm no surgeon, but I don't think it takes more than a day to take the organs out of a still-viable body.

I'm not sure if exceptions should be made for the religious. If Obamacare didn't make exceptions for the religious, then I doubt exceptions would be made for this, either.

Dead people are lumps of matter. If the government can manage the complexities of living people through, say, healthcare and Social Security, withdrawing viable organs from dead bodies would be incredibly simple.
 
Here's a question, genius. If you die at 90, who the hell is going to want your organs?

It doesn't take a genius to know the meaning of "viable."
 
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