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Is Mitt Romney a Liberal?

Is Mitt Romney a Liberal?

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haymarket said:
Of course he does not do this. The guy is RICH for heavens sake. He represents the selfishness of entitlement who feels that the nation exists to help him stay rich. Like so many of his selfishness brethren, they would screw the nation and its people just to beneift themselves. And the last decade is proof of it.
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Isn't it just AMAZING that people like you never express concerns about rich democrats! :lamo
 
OhIsee.Then said:
Romney is a Mormon. Progressive, liberal, conservative, etc. don't apply in the sense of a root philosophy to Romney. He essentially has a leadership position in the Mormon church. This is why most have trouble attempting to figure out if Romney is a liberal or conservative, he is neither. I voted No. But if the question is: Is Mitt Romney a liberal I'd vote No. The poll is demonstrates to me that Romney is not understood by most. But he is understood by Mormons.
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Oh my. All this discussion about who Romney is. Romney is a Mormon. This explains his behavior. You are all talking about stuff that doesn't apply to Romney roots and therefore is inaccurate.
 
haymarket said:
Of course he does not do this. The guy is RICH for heavens sake. He represents the selfishness of entitlement who feels that the nation exists to help him stay rich. Like so many of his selfishness brethren, they would screw the nation and its people just to beneift themselves. And the last decade is proof of it.
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Talk like this is what makes so many hate politicians. It isn't enough to say the other guy is wrong, people like you have to say they would hurt the nation to benefit themselves. So in effect, what some would call traitors.

Nothing seems low enough in political discourse today. My sense is that this falls to partisans who feel they do not have an argument to lift themselves up, so their method of moving up the ladder of success is to pull their opponents down.

People need to call out the scoundrals, as I am now doing. Perhaps then we can get back to a true debate of ideas.
 
washunut said:
Talk like this is what makes so many hate politicians. It isn't enough to say the other guy is wrong, people like you have to say they would hurt the nation to benefit themselves. So in effect, what some would call traitors.

Nothing seems low enough in political discourse today. My sense is that this falls to partisans who feel they do not have an argument to lift themselves up, so their method of moving up the ladder of success is to pull their opponents down.People need to call out the scoundrals, as I am now doing. Perhaps then we can get back to a true debate of ideas.
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Wow, You described Romney's whole life in a nutshell. He is a scoundrel no doubt, but I never tought I'de hear it from you.
 
Hatuey said:
It seems many-a-Conservative writers agree. Romney is in fact a Liberal. So, with that said, what do you guys think? Is he? Is he not?
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He's neither a liberal, nor a conservative. He's a two-faced lying corporatist who's only interested in money and power. He's no better for America than Obama is.
 
His principles are not liberal or conservative. He is only a flip flopper of the extreme form, so he has no principles...
 
Even Obama isn't liberal, at least gauging by how he's governed, so how in the world can Mitt Romney fall in that category? Romney might be a slightly less shade of bat**** than genuine loons like Santorum, but that doesn't make him liberal, not by a long stretch. Yeah, he's a flip flopper but it's more like his views alternate between right wing extremist and center-right, depending on what's need to win the most votes at a given moment.

As governor that meant mild health care reform, during the nomination it meant reinstating DADT, now it will mean opposing his own law as governor and who knows what else. His recent attempts to win the youth and Hispanic votes are particularly amusing. I'm more inclined to label him a soul-less automaton.
 
VanceMack said:
Isn't it just AMAZING that people like you never express concerns about rich democrats! :lamo
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'People like me' are concerned patriots who have deep and serious questions about the direction of American society which caters to the corporate mentality over all else. There is a very dangerous move afoot to repeal the progress of the 20th century and it is led by right wingers calling themselves conservative, libertarians and tea party folk.

Perhaps you can take your pointed barbs aimed at me and flesh them out a bit and tell me which rich democrats I should be so concerned about repealing the 20th century?
 
washunut said:
Talk like this is what makes so many hate politicians. It isn't enough to say the other guy is wrong, people like you have to say they would hurt the nation to benefit themselves. So in effect, what some would call traitors.

Nothing seems low enough in political discourse today. My sense is that this falls to partisans who feel they do not have an argument to lift themselves up, so their method of moving up the ladder of success is to pull their opponents down.

People need to call out the scoundrals, as I am now doing. Perhaps then we can get back to a true debate of ideas.
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I also believe in calling out those who need to be called out. And that is what I am doing with Romney and his supporters.

We are on the cusp at this time in history. It reminds me a great deal of a chapter in the US History book I used to teach from which labeled the era of the 1850's as The Failure Of The Politicians. And we know what the result of that was.

Wanting to see America remain great for all its people seems to be something to be mocked and derided by some here. Fine. We obviously have very very different visions of what America is and who the American people are.

I would ask that all read the excellent work by William R. Shirer- THE RISE AND FALL OF THE THIRD REICH. Shirer was the NY Times reporter in Germany for a long time and his book does a thorough and insightful job in chronicling the rise of nazism in Germany. One cannot help but read it and compare far too many similarities between what is happening in the USA today.

As the elf queen Galadriel said in LORD OF THE RINGS, we are balanced on the edge of a knife. Stray and we could fail as a nation and as a people. I would hope we can successfully find a way to neither cut ourselves in half nor fall into oblivion.

And Washnut - exposing the agenda of the far right wing is engaging in a true debate of ideas. Perhaps they are ideas you simply do not want exposed?
 
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Conservative/Liberal are subjective terms and totally arbitrary.

A conservative in 1988 Russia is much different from a Conservative in Modern day US which is much different from a conservative from 1780 Paris which is much different from a Conservative in 1960's Germany.

Conservative/liberals are silly distinctions in my opinion.

I believe that it's about Right and Wrong. When the voters make the Wrong choice things need to be corrected.
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And I take it you are the abiter of what is right or wrong ... I thank God everyday that people as dilussional and anti-social as you are few and far between.
 

So basicly, you just love to hate. :doh :peace
TurtleDude said:
not true-most of the whining about Romney comes from the butt hurt hate the rich losers or the social fascists. You have been around long enough to understand that the two political groups I despise the most are the butt hurt whiners who bitch about the rich followed closely by the social fascists who want to reinstitute the Spanish Inquisition in 21st century America
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Don't you first have to throw some I-Phones (or other imports) overboard first? :peace
Tigger said:
I believe that it's about Right and Wrong. When the voters make the Wrong choice things need to be corrected.
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No, he's more like, "slip into something a bit more comfortable & I'll massage your ...... & kiss your ass." :lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo :peace
TurtleDude said:
sort of sounds like most of the politicians these days. Romney has never engaged in the bash the rich BS that Obama is banking on to buy the votes of the envious, the wannabes and the never wills
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There is nothing wrong with being rich, most aspire to it. It's greed that is the problem, a willingness to do anything for more $$$$$, screw the enviorment, & fellow man just to amass more $$$$$.Wealth is a matter of luck, way more often then talent of any kind. Luck to be born in America, luck to be born wealthy, the luck to go to good schools, the luck to find a market for whatever trade you may pursue. Whit some sucking the $$$$ upward just to keep more & more , paying millions to buy pol's to get a return of billions with new laws that will suck every last dime upward, eventually there won't be any more at the bottom, what then? :peace
VanceMack said:
Isn't it just AMAZING that people like you never express concerns about rich democrats! :lamo
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What has that to do with it? :confused: :peace
OhIsee.Then said:
Oh my. All this discussion about who Romney is. Romney is a Mormon. This explains his behavior. You are all talking about stuff that doesn't apply to Romney roots and therefore is inaccurate.
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How do you apply that philosophy in your boring life? :lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo :peace
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I don't have a sense of humor. I am 100% serious. Conservatism is an ALL or NOTHING philosophy so far as I am concerned.
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No. He's not a liberal. He'd best be expressed as a political amoeba that at best likely leans slightly to the right. In reality, he's pretty shapeless when it comes to politics, taking on whatever aspects will best help him in the immediete future.
 
I am a liberal. He is not one of us.
 
Romney is a typical political weasel. He is for all three sides of almost any issue, yet somewhat against it too. He is equally at home governing a liberal state like MA, or trying to play conservative at a TP rally. Unfortunately what we need now is a leader, not a go long, get along political blob that wants to play let's make a deal. Romney is a big gov't "solution" kind of guy that advances such things as his "simple" 59-point economic plan or he will back the latest Ryan plan or he will agree to look at anything that polls well today. We are left with a choice between Obama and Obama-lite.

The GOP now insists on running presidential candidates that they think will appeal to "independent" voters in swing states, playing the electoral college odds, rather than running a true constitutional conservative. Romney is not the man to cut the HUGE federal nanny state that Bush/Obama have built into a money hungry monster that requires 40% more spending that it dare ask for in direct taxation. All we can do is hope for a real choice in 2016, and that we can survive until then. USA, USA, USA...
 
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jpevans said:

There is nothing wrong with being rich, most aspire to it. It's greed that is the problem, a willingness to do anything for more $$$$$, screw the enviorment, & fellow man just to amass more $$$$$.Wealth is a matter of luck, way more often then talent of any kind. Luck to be born in America, luck to be born wealthy, the luck to go to good schools, the luck to find a market for whatever trade you may pursue. Whit some sucking the $$$$ upward just to keep more & more , paying millions to buy pol's to get a return of billions with new laws that will suck every last dime upward, eventually there won't be any more at the bottom, what then? :peace
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And its beyond comical that you see that democrats are loving kind benevolent multigazillionaires not driven by greed and willing to **** over the environment and their fellow man.
 
jpevans said:

There is nothing wrong with being rich, most aspire to it. It's greed that is the problem, a willingness to do anything for more $$$$$, screw the enviorment, & fellow man just to amass more $$$$$.Wealth is a matter of luck, way more often then talent of any kind. Luck to be born in America, luck to be born wealthy, the luck to go to good schools, the luck to find a market for whatever trade you may pursue. Whit some sucking the $$$$ upward just to keep more & more , paying millions to buy pol's to get a return of billions with new laws that will suck every last dime upward, eventually there won't be any more at the bottom, what then? :peace
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So, superstores like Staples, Target and Walmart are bad for the little guy because that saves them money and lets them live a bit better. They are far better off, if they do without owning these things made in China, and should just suck it up to support unions making the same products in the USA, selling for 2x the price, that they can dream about owning someday. If anyone is waiting for a liberal politician to make them rich, then they are either in for a very long wait, or have contributed heavily to their campaign. ;-)
 
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