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Health Care; Privlege, Right or Responsibility?

Is access to health care a privilege, right or responsibility?


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I hope this is pretty self explanatory. What do you think? This'll be multiple choice and I'll include an "other". Give me a sec to get the poll up.
 
It's a right from your parents who force you into the world and society without prior consent.

Theoretically speaking, their obligation to uphold this right could carry unto their deathbed, but hopefully, it's relieved once children are graduated into adulthood by demonstrating maturity through a rite of passage.
 
It's a right from your parents who force you into the world and society without prior consent.

But that means it would be a responsibility on the part of the parents, correct?
 
Privilege. You probably don't pay for, you probably don't deserve it.
 
Everyone should have the right to proper medical care.
 
It is a right, and is a responsibility to the extent to which it is possible to provide it.

Medical care is necessary for long-term survival for most people. Just because the need for water is a more immediate need does not change the fact that medical care still is a necessity.

So, zgold, are you saying that anyone born poor doesn't deserve medical care? What have they done wrong, exactly?
 
It is a right, and is a responsibility to the extent to which it is possible to provide it.

Medical care is necessary for long-term survival for most people. Just because the need for water is a more immediate need does not change the fact that medical care still is a necessity.

So, zgold, are you saying that anyone born poor doesn't deserve medical care? What have they done wrong, exactly?

Health care has to be supplied, not just demanded.

If I'm hanging off the edge of a cliff, why are you obligated to save me?
 
During the 1800s - a privledge, a man was lucky, back then, to have anything.
Today - its available for nearly all...even the native Americans may have clinics in many cases..
IMO, health care is no longer a privledge.
But is it a right ?
I think not...define right....
A responsibiliy - yes! to one's self and one's family...
 
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Good question. It gets to the theoretical foundations at the heart of a lot arguments happening now.

It depends on the standard you're judging it against. When I judge it against the state of the entire world currently and the state of humanity in history, I think of healthcare as a privilege. When I judge it against my standard for what should be made a "human right," then I think of healthcare as a right. When I judge it against what I think the duties of government are, then I think of it as a responsibility.

In short, it's all three things to me depending on where I'm looking at it. It's a right that governments have the responsibility to provide for their citizens and it's a privilege to be in a country where it's possible to live up that responsibility.
 
Health care has to be supplied, not just demanded.

If I'm hanging off the edge of a cliff, why are you obligated to save me?

Because you're part of the society that makes my life possible. My life in which I have safe water, access to education, and limitless potential so far as I am willing and desirous to pursue it. That's why.
 
I dont know how to characterize it or put what label on it....I guess the best way to explain how I feel, is that it is a necessity that everyone should have access too...there can and should be degree's. The rich can have the super cadillac and a step down would be superior and then standard and basic + which covers everything a family that cant afford to pay on their own would need to stay healthy
To me to have 30-40 million americans with no health care is just wrong...I look at the picture of my grandkids and say how would I feel if they had no health care and I didnt have the means to provide it....its a tough thing..I know.
 
for children, its a right.

for adults, its a right & a responsibility if one has the ability to provide for it.

as long as we have a law making it a crime for an ER to not treat someone due to financial reasons, one has the obligation to have health insurance.
 
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Because you're part of the society that makes my life possible.

This is Stockholm Syndrome. You're saying people should be grateful for their hostage takers. It's a strategic choice since it makes you look good, but it's not ethical.

You're also saying that all parts of society are equally causal. Would you save two people who are hanging off a cliff equally even if one influenced your life more?

My life in which I have safe water, access to education, and limitless potential so far as I am willing and desirous to pursue it. That's why.

Again, you're enslaving supply to demand. Not only is potential limited, but potential takes commitment to be fulfilled.

I'm not sure why you would even consider saving people who don't personally commit to your potential's fulfillment.
 
i just don't understand why we are the only modern society in the world that still has this discussion.

everyone else has decided that for the most part, all people have the right to quality healthcare.

why is the USA soo behind on this issue?

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This is Stockholm Syndrome. You're saying people should be grateful for their hostage takers. It's a strategic choice since it makes you look good, but it's not ethical.

You're also saying that all parts of society are equally causal. Would you save two people who are hanging off a cliff equally even if one influenced your life more?



Again, you're enslaving supply to demand. Not only is potential limited, but potential takes commitment to be fulfilled.

I'm not sure why you would even consider saving people who don't personally commit to your potential's fulfillment.

First off, no one is being taken hostage, so your analogy falls flat on it's face right there.

Secondly, quality health care for all is part of being in a stable society, which leads to high living conditions, and a great chance of having a good life.

Also you can want to do something to help your fellow person without it having any direct benefit for you, not all things are cold economic decisions, humanity comes into our thinking.
 
Because you're part of the society that makes my life possible. My life in which I have safe water, access to education, and limitless potential so far as I am willing and desirous to pursue it. That's why.

Wow, that is so not how I view things. I'd rather take responsibility for myself rather than concern myself with what everyone else should do to make "my life possible".
 
Everyone should have the right to proper medical care.

Then the government can't provide it. If the government provides it, it is a privilege.
 
First off, no one is being taken hostage, so your analogy falls flat on it's face right there.

Did you consent to be born?

Secondly, quality health care for all is part of being in a stable society, which leads to high living conditions, and a great chance of having a good life.

Stability is subjective.

Also you can want to do something to help your fellow person without it having any direct benefit for you, not all things are cold economic decisions, humanity comes into our thinking.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

I never said there's anything wrong with being concerned for your friends. The question here is a matter of rights though, not concerns.
 
the healthier a society is, the more efficient & prosperous it is, the richer everyone is.

that's why considering healthcare a right....ends up benefiting us all.
 
None of the above. It's a service.
 
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