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The necessary means to survival is not always moral.
I have greater respect for those who place morality above their personal interest.
The necessary means to survival is not always moral.
I have greater respect for those who place morality above their personal interest.
Well stealing isnt moral... Taxes are stealing no matter if you think you are doing it for the right reasons.
I have greater respect for those who place morality above their personal interest.
NO, that's BS. You have representation. A vote. A representative.
Well stealing isnt moral... Taxes are stealing no matter if you think you are doing it for the right reasons.
The Constitution allows for Congress to levy taxes, which are necessary to sustain our society. The real debate is on what and where those taxes should be spent.
Why is money needed to sustain society? In what way is this needed?
Thats a fallacy, who do I have representing me? Just cause I vote doesnt mean I have a real say. Voting is just to lure you into the illusion that you have a say. I have no say in where my money goes when taxed, you are not nieve enough to think this? Why cant I choose where my taxes go at least? Instead of funding things I dont believe in.... I am forced by a social contract, FORCED... "but you can just move" BS why do I have to leave my home because I disagree with you? And where would I go? Just because you fall for the illusion doesnt mean I do, the constitution of no authority was written by men long dead, why am I obligated to follow this contract i did not sign!
YOur represntatives have names. You should know who they are.
If you can't get your head around this simple concept then there is no helping you at all...
Have fun in your political bizarro universe.
Well stealing isnt moral... Taxes are stealing no matter if you think you are doing it for the right reasons.
I'm not talking about me, I can die in a fire tomorrow and life for billions will go on. I'm talking about the world. If we keep expanding as we do, fifty to a hundred years from now conditions will be horrendous. Perpetual famine, even more wars over resources (and not just oil anymore), more intrusive government becoming necessary to put more bandaids over deep wounds. It'll happen, because our population will never stop growing.
You would have to prove the case that taxes are stealing. You have not done that.
Let me rephrase it, LEGAL PLUNDER. Can't really call it stealing when the state has a right in their eyes to take it right? I dont think they have the right to take what is not theirs, thats why I call it stealing.
If you believe that, you have the right under the Constitution to take your case to the courts. Let us know when you have a decision in your favor, um-kay? Until then, you don't have a leg to stand on with that argument.
It's an ethical argument, I've already made the argument, you addressed none of what I posted earlier.
Let me rephrase it, LEGAL PLUNDER. Can't really call it stealing when the state has a right in their eyes to take it right? I dont think they have the right to take what is not theirs, thats why I call it stealing.
What state has our country become when property is considered more valuable than human life?
Our country has always been one that would not infringe upon one's rights in order to furnish something for another. You can't steal my property in light of the possibility of losing your own, for example. This is not an act of placing "value of property" above "value of life." It's about protecting people's rights and not letting them infringe upon one another.
I don't have health insurance and I am against this bill. It is a noble goal but, this is not the way to go about it.
That's actually not the position of the GOP, the party diverges along two ideologies actually, there is a constitutionalist wing and a wing that is almost liberal in it's desire for more government than the founders envisioned(though less than many Democrats). It's split between the old guard and the new conservatives from the south. What Republicans tend to be against are expansions without a definitive fit to the necessary and proper standard, it isn't about "screw the poor".I said majority not all...and I agree its not the best way to go...but it is the only way, if we waited for the GOP to get a plan it would be the plan they always have had...Screw You unsuccessful slugs and leave us rich folk alone ...that doesnt work either
That is a complete fallacy. Your argument rests on the incorrect assumption that "taxes" are stealing your property. The same argument would have to then say that taxing to have police/fire protection to protect property is "stealing your property".
Our American society, as any society exists for the betterment of its citizenry. Paying taxes is part of life, it is part of the price you pay to be a part of this society. You don't get the benefits of our society for free.
It's a right from your parents who force you into the world and society without prior consent.
Theoretically speaking, their obligation to uphold this right could carry unto their deathbed, but hopefully, it's relieved once children are graduated into adulthood by demonstrating maturity through a rite of passage.
You would have to prove the case that taxes are stealing. You have not done that.