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I don't think you realize who you're talking to...What is your point in referring to him by his middle name?
I don't think you realize who you're talking to...What is your point in referring to him by his middle name?
I am all for whatever it takes to shake up the 2 sided corrupt coin we have come to know of U.S. politics. Be it a relevant 3rd party which snaps leaders back in line in order to keep their jobs or by actual representation of the people. Its needed that is for certain. I am voting 3rd party for the 1st time for POTUS this year. I am no longer going to hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. I hate leaving the voting booth feeling like that. People say that a vote for a 3rd party which has no real chance of winning is a wasted vote. To me, voting for someone you really would not want to lead you because the competition is even moreso is a wasted vote.It might be a little different this time around, as it seems that the Daily Show and Colbert are giving some time to Johnson as he states his goal of getting enough votes to get the libertarian party into the presidential debates for 2016. How much of an effect that will have, who knows. But it'd be nice to have a third voice, any third voice, heard.
I am all for whatever it takes to shake up the 2 sided corrupt coin we have come to know of U.S. politics. Be it a relevant 3rd party which snaps leaders back in line in order to keep their jobs or by actual representation of the people. Its needed that is for certain. I am voting 3rd party for the 1st time for POTUS this year. I am no longer going to hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. I hate leaving the voting booth feeling like that. People say that a vote for a 3rd party which has no real chance of winning is a wasted vote. To me, voting for someone you really would not want to lead you because the competition is even moreso is a wasted vote.
I've always voted third party for POTUS because in my state my vote never has a chance of counting anyway. The only way I can possibly not waste my vote is by voting third party.
I am all for whatever it takes to shake up the 2 sided corrupt coin we have come to know of U.S. politics. Be it a relevant 3rd party which snaps leaders back in line in order to keep their jobs or by actual representation of the people. Its needed that is for certain. I am voting 3rd party for the 1st time for POTUS this year. I am no longer going to hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. I hate leaving the voting booth feeling like that. People say that a vote for a 3rd party which has no real chance of winning is a wasted vote. To me, voting for someone you really would not want to lead you because the competition is even moreso is a wasted vote.
I am also for shaking up the two parties and have something new in as a third...I just dont think a libertarian fits that bill...I know it doesnt for me.
I think Johnson of the Libertarian Party will do well this year. It should be one of the best years for a third party presidential candidate since Ross Perot ran.
zyph I dont know if I can agree with your statement that libertarians are more hooked into politics...theres many dems and traditonal gopers that are tuned into politics just as well....libertarians the way I view them have dual goals....some I think are genuinely good for the country and some I think are totally nuts...libertarians ever since I can remember knowing anything about them consistently get the same 8-11% support over the years Ron Paul stayed right in that bracket...I predict his son will do worse down the road...hes insane
It might be a little different this time around, as it seems that the Daily Show and Colbert are giving some time to Johnson as he states his goal of getting enough votes to get the libertarian party into the presidential debates for 2016. How much of an effect that will have, who knows. But it'd be nice to have a third voice, any third voice, heard.
The Libertarian Party couldn't manage even .5% of the popular vote last year. That's less than half a percent. Same goes for 2004. Guess what, same goes for 2000 as well. Actually, if you add up their percentage of the popular vote for the past THREE Presidential elections you BARELY get over 1% total of the popular vote (1.08%). Look at that again, you've got to add up their votes for the past three elections to even get to 1% of the popular vote. Over the past twenty years, that's 6 elections, they've not even broken 2.5% combined (2.33%) with their highest in that span being half a percent in 1996. That's pathetic.
Even if we assumed that being in the debates would give them...hell, lets go crazy...a 500% bump in their COMBINED results they'd still only have 14% of the popular vote. And that's going off their combined totals from 6 elections. Going off their average, to get to that same measely 14%, would mean that they'd need a 3,500% bump. To get from their average over the past 20 years (.39) to even a THIRD of the popular vote would mean an increase of almost 8,500%. I don't care if they had a debate that was nothing BUT the Libertarian candidate on stage, there's no way in hell that it's going to give them a 500% bump let alone one 17 times that amount.
I agree it'd be nice. I disagree it's likely to happen. Again, I'll point to the history I brought up in previous posts. Replace "Debate" with "Colbert and Stewart":
Maybe it'll happen....but on this, with libertarians, it's going to need to be a "show me before I even come close to believing it".
I'd love to see a third party significantly viable as well...but I'm just not hopeful based on recent history.
I've always voted third party for POTUS because in my state my vote never has a chance of counting anyway. The only way I can possibly not waste my vote is by voting third party.
Romney-he is good on the issues that matter to me-and not as bad as Obama on the issues that don't matter as much to me. He actually had a successful career in something other than politics or sucking on the public tit
I have voted Independent in the past, (Anderson, Nader) but with the rightward decent into self absorbed greed & lack of consern for others, I have been forced to vote for the Democrats, who it boils down to, have a chance of defeating the monster. eace
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Well, the keys were wrong in 2000, but they got around it by saying Al Gore won the popular vote.
You can not rely solely on one method.