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Do you think the tea party will succeed?

Will the Tea Party Succeed?


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The tea party's been busy lately. Do you think they'll succeed?
 
The tea party's been busy lately. Do you think they'll succeed?

Succeed at what?

Electoral success? On a national or state level? Legislative or Executive level or both?

Ideological success? Changing the core of the Republican Party? Affecting the conversation going on regarding fiscal and governmental issues in America?

How are you meaning success?
 
They had great success in WI just a couple weeks ago.
 
Depends on what you mean by success.
 
Succeed at what?

Electoral success? On a national or state level? Legislative or Executive level or both?

Ideological success? Changing the core of the Republican Party? Affecting the conversation going on regarding fiscal and governmental issues in America?

How are you meaning success?

Well i guess i mean with their goal, they believe that if we exercise their beliefs, america won't go over the same cliff as Greece (and that's where were headed), but if I had to choose from your choices i'd say national level, more of like an overall kind of thing.
 
That is too presumptive for me. If we don't go the way of Greece, it would be far more uncertain that the Tea Party accomplished even a bit of that.

The Tea Party would rather more be able to exercise a revitalized interest in some matter of fiscal conservatism and populism. That's almost it.
 
No! they are already half dead and have lost much of their original influence. They got all the initial media blather because most of the supporters were senior citizens who turned on Obama because of Obama care and the 500 billion he was taking out of the Medicare fund.
I went to 3 or 4 of the first teaparty rallies in my area of florida and it was ALL blue hairs....Since then seniors have turned on the Teaparty...thanks to Paul Ryan and his candy store for the rich take it off the seniors budget proposal...that was flatly turned down twice.
 
If by success you mean return the U.S. to a constitutionally limitted federal gov't, then not at all likely, until after the financial collapse, perhaps 6 to 8 years away. If you mean get more "constitutional conservatives" into the congress then yes, they will likely make some progress, just as they did in the 2010 elections. They will hold their noses and politely vote for Romney, yet that is true of many ABO voters. ;-)
 
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How do you measure success? They have both succeeded and failed. In the long term I don't think we will have something called the Tea Party per se. We may however see a redefined conservative movement take place that as the Tea Part as the seed. I frankly don't see any political movement on the liberal or conservative side I can buy into. How about the Reason ad Fairness Party?
 
They had great success in WI just a couple weeks ago.

So the outcome would have been different if the Tea Party did not exist?
 
The tea party's been busy lately. Do you think they'll succeed?


Despite the media's portrayal of the tea party they have been successful in getting a lot of the republican candidates they want elected. Can the same be said about the occu-tards? So I would say yes the Tea Party has been successful.
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The Teas were created and exist for one purpose, to keep the Bush tax cuts for the rich intact. Those cuts are going away in December along with the Teaparty. RIP
 
I do not believe they will succeed... in the long-term, though they will probably gain some short-term wins. Swing voters are gaining in influence, and they do not appeal to the swing voter enough to win them over.
 
They are already succeeding in 2010 they elected a bunch of their candidates...........
 
They have already succeeded by becoming a voice in the Republican party. They achieved what they set out to do which is have a voice. Now establishment Republicans have to listen or they will be voted out.
 
The tea party's been busy lately. Do you think they'll succeed?

Well like most here I don't even know what you are referring too.

Success in what?

Changing america to what they want or what they "seem" to want? of course that wont happen
influence america to share some of what they want? thats possible

it depends on what goal you are talking about, give me a goal and Ill give you my answer.

Currently they are to scattered and weak leadership wise and general direction wise to accomplish big things but that could change
 
Unfortunately, no. Too many alcoholics and drug addicts, that would not drink plain and simple tea. :lol:
 
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The fact that they had such little influence in the selection of the GOP nominee is pretty much evidence that the tea party is dead, at least on a national level. They probably will have some influence in a few local elections.
 
I was at some early Tea Party counter demonstrations. They were so clueless that their only chance is strong leadership. But, what leadership?
 
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Well i guess i mean with their goal, they believe that if we exercise their beliefs, america won't go over the same cliff as Greece (and that's where were headed), but if I had to choose from your choices i'd say national level, more of like an overall kind of thing.

Multi-laywered answer then.

First, they've already succeeded to a point. The 2010 race saw a number of Tea Party backed, and Tea Party type if not specifically backed, candidates entering into the House and the Senate. Their entrance into the House has largely helped lead a push, with questionable success at times albiet, to further their ideological agenda.

Second, they've managed to steer the focus at least somewhat for the Republican establishment and for the 2012 race towards the fiscal end of things. It's still a bit questionable about how much of a success that is since the economic issues going on would perhaps push it to the forefront as well. Still, the Republicans, by and large, since 2010 seem to have been more focused on governmental and fiscal issues and pushing the social issues less strongly. Typically, the massive social conservative talk over the past little bit has been spurred by off handed comments by primary candidates followed by the media and those on the left making it a continued issue to talk about. Strangely, it's the Left, not the right, so far this year making the most hay out of Social issues it seems. That change in the Republican party, I think, is at least a bit attributed to the Tea Party.

Third, I think they could see some success with regards to congressional elections again. That's truly where the movement is at it's best due to the nature of its operation.

Fourth, I think they will continue to have little real impact on the Presidential Election in terms of sizable support or greater voice, though a better impact then they did during the primaries. I've explained it numerous times on the forum so won't go into detail, but because of the regional and segmented nature of the Tea Party it is better situated for congressional support than Presidential support due to the ability to tailor candidates to the additional, non-tea party, concerns of that particular locations populatoin.

Fifth, in the sense of having lasting success, it's hard to say really. I think movements rarely succeed at getting everything they want, and additionally I think that once a movement gets most of what it wants and gets to the spirit of what it was pushing for they tend to transform into a disgusting misrepresentation of themselves that is based less on actual principle and more on individuals wishing to use it for power. I think ultimately the Tea Party will have some success shifting the view point of the Republican Party to a certain degree, but due to the regional nature and overlap of the movement with other conservative movements I think they'll be hard pressed to succeed at any sizable, long lasting, significant shift unless some kind of centralized political figure could come forth with enough charisma to bypass the various ideological divides between different regional tea party groups and actually unite them behind a singular presidential candidate.
 
The fact that they had such little influence in the selection of the GOP nominee is pretty much evidence that the tea party is dead, at least on a national level. They probably will have some influence in a few local elections.

The choice of the Republican nominie was mainly helped by the MSM. The MSM attacked the conservative candidates one by one until what was left was two "moderate" canadates one neo-con and a hard core libertarian.
 
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