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Worst US President?

Worst US President

  • Warren G. Harding

    Votes: 4 7.8%
  • Andrew Johnson

    Votes: 4 7.8%
  • James Buchanan

    Votes: 6 11.8%
  • Herbert Hoover

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • Franklin Pierce

    Votes: 2 3.9%
  • Ulysses S. Grant

    Votes: 2 3.9%
  • Franklin Roosevelt

    Votes: 9 17.6%
  • Barack Obama

    Votes: 6 11.8%
  • George W. Bush

    Votes: 13 25.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 4 7.8%

  • Total voters
    51
I think I remember reading some pretty solid consensus among historians that Warren G. Harding takes this title pretty easily.

"I am not fit for this office and should never have been here." - W.G. Harding

That is almost redeeming, when I think about it. He was very corrupt.

That's not to say that I have nice things to say about Dubya Bush, Obama or FDR though. They all suck, by my standards.
 
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Those who voted for FDR, Bush or Obama are either hacks or ignorant of US history.

those who don't see any merits in putting FDR on the list are bigger hacks.

I don't have a problem with people disagreeing, but anybody that calls me a hack is full of ****.
 
There is a clear problem which reflects on the DP membership. It shows that most DP posters have no sense of history. FDR, by no means could even be considered the worst.There is a tiny chance that Bush II and Obama might be in that league. Neither has reached objective history

I don not wish to estrange anybody unnecessarily. but without a historical perspective on historic legacies, this kind of talk is useless as regards the subject.
 
There is a clear problem which reflects on the DP membership. It shows that most DP posters have no sense of history. FDR, by no means could even be considered the worst.There is a tiny chance that Bush II and Obama might be in that league. Neither has reached objective history

I don not wish to estrange anybody unnecessarily. but without a historical perspective on historic legacies, this kind of talk is useless as regards the subject.

How about making an actual argument instead of just calling people ignorant?
 
those who don't see any merits in putting FDR on the list are bigger hacks.

I don't have a problem with people disagreeing, but anybody that calls me a hack is full of ****.
Perhaps the other option then, ignorant of American history.

I am conservative/libertarian, but my reading of American history leaves me a great deal of doubt about considering FDR as the worst president.
 
There is a clear problem which reflects on the DP membership. It shows that most DP posters have no sense of history. FDR, by no means could even be considered the worst.There is a tiny chance that Bush II and Obama might be in that league. Neither has reached objective history

I don not wish to estrange anybody unnecessarily. but without a historical perspective on historic legacies, this kind of talk is useless as regards the subject.

The author of the piece I am linking do holds a PHD in History.

The Free Market: The Truth about FDR
 
Perhaps the other option then, ignorant of American history.

I am conservative/libertarian, but my reading of American history leaves me a great deal of doubt about considering FDR as the worst president.

see post 81. I agree that the problem is largely ignorance, but we differ on who is actually ignorant here.
 
My argument would be history. US history is widely available in books and I imagine, the internet.

what criteria do you use to determine the worst?
 
see post 81. I agree that the problem is largely ignorance, but we differ on who is actually ignorant here.
I understand that no true leaders are without legacies of failure. Historical figures must be judged relevant to their time. FDR succeeded and his legacy is secured. I find that those who attack Reagan on the left are little different in nature than those who attack FDR on the right.
 
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My argument would be history. US history is widely available in books and I imagine, the internet.

Funny. My argument as to why he's the worst s history too!

See how this isn't productive?
 
Ill stick with modern presidents of my liftime...One could say it was the only one that got impeached and had to resign....Nixon...I say its a tossup between LBJ and Carter
 
On my own.


well, since you are now offering diddly and squat to respond to, does your criteria happen to be of the same quality that came up with that user name?
 
Eh, I'm no history buff so I'm left with those presidents in my lifetime. It's almost a tossup between Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush, but since Bush had twice as long to **** things up and got us into two decades-long wars, George W. has my vote.

And yet Obama still managed to outspend bush's 8 year term in just 2-3 years... I swear this guy's a magician... "And now for my next trick... If you would all kindly put money in this hat, I'll make it disappear...".
Also, he spent more than any other president in the history of the U.S. (even FDR which is definatly an achievement, just not to brag about...) I'm kind of depressed that he's not 100%
 
well, since you are now offering diddly and squat to respond to, does your criteria happen to be of the same quality that came up with that user name?
Given my user name, at this point I can conclusively won a bitchfest. Believe, it is no big deal.

Good night.
 
Given my user name, at this point I can conclusively won a bitchfest. Believe, it is no big deal.

Good night.

my head hurts trying to translate, but from what I can ascertain, you are proud of successfully trolling me?
 
Perhaps the other option then, ignorant of American history.

I am conservative/libertarian, but my reading of American history leaves me a great deal of doubt about considering FDR as the worst president.

Thank you. Finally some deference given where deference is due.
 
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