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Beginning of the End for Public Unions?

Last two years beginning of a downward slide for Public Sector Unions?

  • Yes, their power has waxed and now it shall wane.

    Votes: 40 62.5%

  • Unions will respond and their power will grow.

    Votes: 14 21.9%

  • It depends on November.

    Votes: 10 15.6%
  • Total voters
    64
Centinel said:
Which is why statist decivilizers hate property rights and do everything in their power to denigrate them. Property rights stand between them and their coveted power over others.
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Talk about your frankenstein monster perversions........ you have outdone yourself with that one.
 
Thrilla said:
you have not asked the person you attacked about his position on slavery, or civil rights... you simply reached deep in your ass and implied he supports slavery based on nothing more than his professed support for property rights.

your argument is nothing more or less than " supporting property right= supporting slavery"... and for an alleged educator , that is an extremely moronic argument.. an argument that can be demonstrated to apply to you as well, unless of course you are going to sit here and deny property rights do not exist or should not exist.
basically put, if you own property and you enjoy and support that right to own your property... you, too , support slavery.... that is your own argument throw right back in your face.
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Do you have some significant reading comprehension problem that prevents you from accurately reading and understanding what was written?
 
Thrilla said:
yeah, TD is a horrible person for insulting his height... he should be more like you and falsely attack his support for slavery... that's so much better.








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I keep waiting for those quotes....

they never quite appear.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
Voting is a privilege. Owning a gun is a privilege. A right is something someone can not take away from you. People do not get to own guns. People do not get to vote. Thus, privileges.
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You badly need to read the US Constitution.
 
MoSurveyor said:
That's a lie.
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The Indians?

I was talking about original ownership so the Indians claims or lack of claims to some of the property has nothing to do with my point.
 
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haymarket said:
Talk about your frankenstein monster perversions........ you have outdone yourself with that one.
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I don't think so at all. You support stepping on them at every turn if you or what you support can benefit. Seems accurate to me.
 
haymarket said:
Thank you for clearly showing you cannot substantiate the scurrilous lies you posted about my position on property. You utterly FAILED to do so with anything other than more pompous pontifications.

Get a clue: I could not care less about somebody you admire making their own pompous pontifications about my views. If you and your boy OR67 want to attack my views, at least man up and have the cojones to quote me.
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Here you go


haymarket said:
And they will pay for privilege and if they know what is good for them they will drop to their knees and crawl in thanks to a society that lets them keep what they can keep .... while they are permitted to do so .... for a while at least.
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Kal'Stang said:
All rights can be surpressed. But being supressed and being taken away are two totally different things.
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Felons have their voting rights stripped from them. They are suppressed and taken away.
 
Henrin said:
I don't think so at all. You support stepping on them at every turn if you or what you support can benefit. Seems accurate to me.
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Why is it you also cannot supply the quote where I supposedly accused somebody of supporting slavery in this discussion on property rights?
 
haymarket said:
Witch hunt. Get in line.

I understand property. I support property rights.

Unlike right wing libertarians, I DO NOT elevate them above other rights people have.
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Well there's your problem.
 
TurtleDude said:
Here you go
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And that utterly fails to do the job. Telling people to be thankful that this is a time and place in history where they are allowed to keep such wealth is simply a recognition of reality.

And Turtle, please get a clue. I am being accused of telling somebody that in this discussion on property rights - I supposedly accused somebody of supporting slavery because they support property rights.
 
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haymarket said:
Why is it you also cannot supply the quote where I supposedly accused somebody of supporting slavery in this discussion on property rights?
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What now?

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haymarket said:
And that utterly fails to do the job. Telling people to be thankful that this is a time and place in history where they are allowed to keep such wealth is simply a recognition of reality.
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Considering that you think we should crawl in thanks to you for not taking EVERYTHING, yeah, it does it pretty well.

And Turtle, please get a clue. I am being accused of telling somebody that in this discussion on property rights - I supposedly accused somebody of supporting slavery because they support property rights.
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That is what you said to me in no short terms when you said the slave owners would cheer me on.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
You don't emphasize value on personal property rights.
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I accept property rights as rights. I accept other rights as rights also.

Where is the problem in anyone saying that?
 
haymarket said:
Review the discussion. See what Thrilla is accusing me of. That is what you are defending.
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Ok, but then you are the one that accused me of supporting owning slaves. I can quote it if you want or you could just be honest for once.
 
Misterveritis said:
Slaves were legitimate property under the laws of that day. We might have been far better off if the parties who wanted to abolish slavery had just purchased and freed the slaves.
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So the slave owners could set up a slave baby factory and make money directly?
 
Henrin said:
Considering that you think we should crawl in thanks to you for not taking EVERYTHING, yeah, it does it pretty well.



That is what you said to me in no short terms when you said the slave owners would cheer me on.
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Do you understand the difference in what you just wrote?

Here is a clue: go to my statement in 276 and reproduce the words where I said you supported slavery.

Go for it.

Let my exact words speak for themselves since it is so clear to you and Thrilla.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
Why? What did I say that makes you think I haven't read the Constitution?
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Haymarket gets confused on rights regularly. He doesn't seem to realize that no matter what voting is a privilege that only exists because of governments existence.
 
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