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Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share?

  • Yes

    Votes: 58 48.3%
  • No

    Votes: 62 51.7%

  • Total voters
    120
Make you case then to the people that you believe the way to address 3 decades of national debt due to tax cuts for the wealthy, excessive military spending, and financial deregulation, is to tax the destitute and the disabled.

:raises eyebrow: why would I do so when I don't argue that we need to raise taxes on the destitute/disabled in order to pay down the debt?
 
Please show where I said "destitute and the disabled" should pay more taxes. Thank you.

You said the people that don't pay any taxes at all should be taxed. As I pointed out, the only people who don't pay any taxes at all are the destitute and the disabled.
 
You said the people that don't pay any taxes at all should be taxed. As I pointed out, the only people who don't pay any taxes at all are the destitute and the disabled.



The "only" people who don't pay taxes are in this group? Really? Got proof?
 
The "only" people who don't pay taxes are in this group? Really? Got proof?

Who except the destitute and disabled don't pay payroll taxes and sales taxes?
 
Who except the destitute and disabled don't pay payroll taxes and sales taxes?



Now I know you've heard that 48+-% don't pay any taxes. Now are you telling me that almost half of the taxpayers in the US are destitute or disabled?


I have a question for you. When/if the 48% non-payers becomes 50 to 52% what happens?
 
Now I know you've heard that 48+-% don't pay any taxes. Now are you telling me that almost half of the taxpayers in the US are destitute or disabled?

That 48% figure referred only to federal income tax. You said people who don't pay any taxes at all.


I have a question for you. When/if the 48% non-payers becomes 50 to 52% what happens?


FIT accounts for less than half the Federal taxes, and only 14% pay no taxes, mostly the destitute and the disabled.
 
Now I know you've heard that 48+-% don't pay any taxes. Now are you telling me that almost half of the taxpayers in the US are destitute or disabled?


I have a question for you. When/if the 48% non-payers becomes 50 to 52% what happens?

That is what worries me the most. Once we have more voters than FIT payers there is a HUGE political advantage to making FIT payers fund ever more wonderful "vote buying" programs for the masses. It is very easy to be generous with other people's money.
 
That is what worries me the most. Once we have more voters than FIT payers there is a HUGE political advantage to making FIT payers fund ever more wonderful "vote buying" programs for the masses. It is very easy to be generous with other people's money.

Is it your contention that the 48% that pay no FIT do so because they enjoy living in or near poverty, or do you think it could be due to the unemployment, and underemployment due to the recession and outsourcing?
 
Is it your contention that the 48% that pay no FIT do so because they enjoy living in or near poverty, or do you think it could be due to the unemployment, and underemployment due to the recession and outsourcing?

Outsourcing is a solution, not a problem. The people in China are very happy to have those jobs. When the blue collar workers in the US realize they were overpaid, they might be able to get some of those jobs back if they accept pay cuts.
 
Outsourcing is a solution, not a problem. The people in China are very happy to have those jobs. When the blue collar workers in the US realize they were overpaid, they might be able to get some of those jobs back if they accept pay cuts.

You have things a bit mixed up, it is the CEO's who's income has skyrocketed, not the working class. So the working class should be happy to accept poverty wages to keep the CEOs at their highly elevated income levels?
 
Is it your contention that the 48% that pay no FIT do so because they enjoy living in or near poverty, or do you think it could be due to the unemployment, and underemployment due to the recession and outsourcing?

I think you are confused between 'outsourcing' and 'offshoring'...want to rethink that?
 
Again, how does one getting handed millions from dead parents confer upon one the label of being ECONOMICALLY SUCCESSFUL? A far better term would be LUCKY.

I guess you don't think its right to work hard and be frugal for your children? does that mean your children are going to whine about my son in 20-30 years?
 
You either outright lie or you have the worst memory on this board. :roll:

Faris is the Tweedle-dum to the Tweedle-dee of Luntz - you remember now don't you? After all, I have provided their names to you dozens and dozens of times in post after post after post when you bring up their favorite neologism for inheritance taxes. You slavishly follow their orders so perhaps you should try to remember the names of your masters.

Or at least be honest about it. ;)

You labor under the delusion that the stuff you post is stuff anyone really cares about or remembers
 
Tax System Seen as Unfair, in Need of Overhaul

Wealthy Not Paying Fair Share Top Complaint

"Public dissatisfaction with the tax system has grown over the past decade, and the focus of the public’s frustration is not how much they themselves pay, but rather the impression that wealthy people are not paying their fair share."

"The latest national survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, conducted Dec. 7-11, 2011 among 1,521 adults, finds that this sense of unfairness centers on the perception that wealthy Americans are not paying their fair share of taxes; 57% say this is what bothers them most about the tax system, while half as many (28%) point to the complexity of the system, and just 11% say that the high amount they have to pay is what bothers them the most."


Tax System Seen as Unfair, in Need of Overhaul | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

fleas always think the dog scratches too much and doesn't give enough blood

BFD
 
Romney only paid 14%...............


which is a higher rate than 97% of americans paid and he paid a few million more dollars himself than 70 million or more americans combined He ought to have more say over how the taxes are spent than those who paid less than he did collectively
 
Yup - I paid a higher percentage of my income in federal tax than he did.



really? so you are making more than 150K or so working for some dem politician? wow, no wonder Detroit is broke

I retract that-based on CP's charts its more like 210K or more to get to 14% effective FIT
 
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Yup - I paid a higher percentage of my income in federal tax than he did.

Yeah, and I bet you will not in your entire life make the amount he paid in taxes...last year.
 
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Ok now you backtrack YET AGAIN from your original postition. . And want to keep all credits, deductions and exclusions for EVERYONE EXCEPT the top 5%. Hmm...

that is not even a halfway honest regurgitation of my position.

I am rather surprised at your employment of such dishonest tactics.
 
Yeah, and I bet you will not in your entire live make the amount he paid in taxes...last year.


our biggest problem is too much representation without enough taxation
 
I guess you don't think its right to work hard and be frugal for your children? does that mean your children are going to whine about my son in 20-30 years?

Your son deserves the right to be a self made man. Please do not emasculate him the way your parents did to you and deny him that valuable experience.
 
he must be counting FICA and ignoring the estate taxes Romney will pay and he will not pay

he will pay!?!?!?!?!?!

he will not pay!?!?!?!?!?!?

you have fallen down the rabbit hole and have passed the twilight zone.

The fact is that lots of folks paid a bigger percentage of their income in federal taxes than the Mitten did.
 
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