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Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes in the United States?

Do the Rich Pay Their Fair Share?

  • Yes

    Votes: 58 48.3%
  • No

    Votes: 62 51.7%

  • Total voters
    120
So you would recommend the gov't to do just what about that? It makes no difference whether wealth comes from winning a lottery, finding burried pirate treasure or is "earned" by selling a patent. One has a right to their property, no matter how they (legally) got it or in what in form it currently exists.

Tax it as income according to the normal applicable schedule as income.
 
that still does not entitle you or the dem masters you serve, to any of their wealth.

You re incorrect. Actually, it does entitle the government to a portion of that wealth. That is called reality.
 
And, what? Did you loose track of the conversation? Increasing sales taxes will decrease consumer spending. Vehicles are an excellent example. Raise the price of cars and there will be fewer cars sold. That's basic economics. I would have expected a business genius like yourself to understand that without explanation.

I do understand and really am not concerend. Theres already a sales tax in most states. Sales would go down if the sales tax was added on top of current taxes, and or an exorbinate rate was enacted. Sales wouldnt be nearly as affected if the tax was a replacement for the cuurent structure. Espeacially if the rate was minimal, ie less than 10%. That said I could care less about whether "consumers" are consuming, its not the goverments place to controll peoples spending habits. We are TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY.
 
Tax it as income according to the normal applicable schedule as income.

I would agree with you IFF you can define "net income" in a precise and concise manner for me. That, my friend, is the biggest MESS in the FIT code. For a business it starts very simply; Net income = sales - cost of sales. The devil is in those details, the other 80,000+ pages of the federal income tax code jibberish, that seek to (re?)define "sales" and "cost of sales". ;-)
 
the parasite never seems to think the host is doing enough for it
 
Excellent post! Great analogy.

what many seem to forget is that there reaches a point where the host can no longer both support the parasites and survive. we are doing no one any favors by keeping an ever growing segment of our population dependent on the efforts of others. how long will they survive once they bleed those paying for their support dry?
 
the parasite never seems to think the host is doing enough for it

true, the parasite advocates generally whine that they are not being given enough
 
true, the parasite advocates generally whine that they are not being given enough

Thats ironic coming from you. I thought immediately of trust fund babies and inheritence. You could change your statement just slightly to this:

The Silk Diaper set generally whine that they were not being given enough.

Its amazing what perspective does. ;)

Perhaps now a line from Groucho? Or maybe some other Marx? :mrgreen:
 
Thats ironic coming from you. I thought immediately of trust fund babies and inheritence. You could change your statement just slightly to this:

The Silk Diaper set generally whine that they were not being given enough.

Its amazing what perspective does. ;)

Perhaps now a line from Groucho? Or maybe some other Marx? :mrgreen:

Yes we know your rage against those whose parents were more industrious than yours. This sort of ranting is conclusive proof as to what motivates your anti rich diatribes. But what is funny is you thinking someone who is able to live off the wealth freely given to him is no different or even worse than the parasites who use government power to take from others and feed them

I have never heard of anyone with silk diapers-perhaps its some new leftwing fetish. However, I have never heard of heirs whining that they weren't given enough. I am sure it happened-probably from those who whine about those who were given more because many people inherit something.

Most of the whining comes from people who are mad others were "luckier" than they are.
 
If certain corporations can completely skip taxation, then no.
 
If certain corporations can completely skip taxation, then no.

are we better off with the jobs those corporations supply and at the income taxes that come from it? do you even have a clue why this might happen? losses? they paid taxes in other jurisdiction? depreciation of machinery?

Lots of the ranting is based on ignorance
 
Heard? Perhaps not.

Seen? Every day of your life when you look in the mirror.

that's pretty stupid- Do you know why families such as mine stay rich other than the fact we work hard and smart? because we don't waste money on stupid things. Envy is just so silly
 
Your previous comment was about the progressiveness of the tax code. That link is about something else.

That is exactly what politifact confirmed, that tax rates are less progressive. Did you miss this?

"effective tax rates for high-income earners were either at their lowest since 1960 or very close to their lowest (at least according to the most recent data available)."
 
are we better off with the jobs those corporations supply and at the income taxes that come from it?

What jobs? If trickle down theory had worked, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
 
that's pretty stupid- Do you know why families such as mine stay rich other than the fact we work hard and smart? because we don't waste money on stupid things. Envy is just so silly

Such a statement - without accompanying data and proof - is simply more of your pompous pontifications based only on your own belief system. In other words, a typical normal Turtle post.
 
QUESTION: Does anyone think it is "fair" that almost 50% of American wage earners pay no Federal Income taxes at all? How is it "fair" that half of working Americans enjoy the protection of the military and the various benefits of government (what few there are) and don't pay one red cent for it?

And while we're at it, who decides what is fair? Sean Hannity noted last night that when he adds up all the various taxes he pays, he pays 55% of his income in taxes. So for six months out of a year he hands over everything to the government. In my world, that is NOT fair.
 
What jobs? If trickle down theory had worked, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

you are being dishonest again. by defintion if that corporation that was whined about did not exist there would be LESS jobs
 
Such a statement - without accompanying data and proof - is simply more of your pompous pontifications based only on your own belief system. In other words, a typical normal Turtle post.

translation-you cannot refute what I said so your post is babble. Envy is what motivates the attack on those families frugal and smart enough to plan for future generations
 
QUESTION: Does anyone think it is "fair" that almost 50% of American wage earners pay no Federal Income taxes at all? How is it "fair" that half of working Americans enjoy the protection of the military and the various benefits of government (what few there are) and don't pay one red cent for it?

And while we're at it, who decides what is fair? Sean Hannity noted last night that when he adds up all the various taxes he pays, he pays 55% of his income in taxes. So for six months out of a year he hands over everything to the government. In my world, that is NOT fair.

Sean Hannity is a liar, first and foremost. Step back and examine just what Sean Hannity does, how he "works" for his "back breaking" living, before you swallow his overtaxed nonsense. First he needs a HUGE cable network, supported by masive corporate advertising, to provide his stage, research/production staff and then he pops on that stage for 1 hour per day (52 minutes w/o commercials), with perhaps a 3 hour prep/rehersal with his "guests" paid, not by Sean Hannity, but by the "his" network. For that "hard work" he gets massive amounts of money as a "salary", not to spew his brilliant and sage opinions, but to sell advertising time for "his" network. Sean Hannity is a TV "personality", nothing more. I understand that he also has a radio show, and he may even sell Amway, on the side, but let's look just at his cable TV job alone, which already puts him in the top 5% of income tax payers.

Examine his actual federal taxation situation assuming a $200K salary (I have no idea what the real figure may be). He claims what as his "effective" federal tax rate? Let's say it is 33% (the top MARGINAL rate on $200K, or only 2% less than the "millionaire" rate) yet he REALLY pays 25.26% of his GROSS income in FIT or $50,528 in total taxes to the IRS (assuming "average" deductons). So where, and to whom, did Sean Hannity pay that remaining 30% ($59,482) of his income in taxes? Are we to assume that Sean Hannity is taxed any more that the average guy in NYC? Is Sean Hannity forced to live as he does? Is Sean Hannity willing to SHOW us his actual federal, state and city tax records? Someone should should call his bluff and make him show us those cards; lay them on the table for all to see.
 
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QUESTION: Does anyone think it is "fair" that almost 50% of American wage earners pay no Federal Income taxes at all? How is it "fair" that half of working Americans enjoy the protection of the military and the various benefits of government (what few there are) and don't pay one red cent for it?

And while we're at it, who decides what is fair? Sean Hannity noted last night that when he adds up all the various taxes he pays, he pays 55% of his income in taxes. So for six months out of a year he hands over everything to the government. In my world, that is NOT fair.

Sean Hannity is a liar, first and foremost.............

The only thing that charge proves is that YOU are a liar.
 
QUESTION: Does anyone think it is "fair" that almost 50% of American wage earners pay no Federal Income taxes at all? How is it "fair" that half of working Americans enjoy the protection of the military and the various benefits of government (what few there are) and don't pay one red cent for it?

And while we're at it, who decides what is fair? Sean Hannity noted last night that when he adds up all the various taxes he pays, he pays 55% of his income in taxes. So for six months out of a year he hands over everything to the government. In my world, that is NOT fair.

Federal income taxes are not all the taxes one pays, keep in mind.
 
QUESTION: Does anyone think it is "fair" that almost 50% of American wage earners pay no Federal Income taxes at all? How is it "fair" that half of working Americans enjoy the protection of the military and the various benefits of government (what few there are) and don't pay one red cent for it?

And while we're at it, who decides what is fair? Sean Hannity noted last night that when he adds up all the various taxes he pays, he pays 55% of his income in taxes. So for six months out of a year he hands over everything to the government. In my world, that is NOT fair.

Federal income taxes are not all the taxes one pays, keep in mind.

I know. Thats why I said "all the various taxes he pays".
 
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