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Politics Aside, who is the more likable of our last 3 Presidents. C

Who is the more likable of our last 3 Presidents?

  • Bill Clinton

    Votes: 36 45.6%

  • George W Bush

    Votes: 24 30.4%

  • Barack Obama

    Votes: 12 15.2%

  • None of the above

    Votes: 7 8.9%
  • Total voters
    79
TheDemSocialist said:
Who cares who he ****ed when he ****ed or how he ****ed her. He ****ed her! Is that a impeachable act? I thought you were only supposed to be impeached for treason, fraud, or other high acts of crime? If ****ing a chick "a high act of crime"?
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You thought wrong..........You can be impeached for a variety of things including the commission of a felony.....
 
They all seem like likable guys.

Going by interviews, I'd say Clinton seems the least "rehearsed". But Obama isn't yet in a position where he can afford not to be "rehearsed" (IE campaigning) and I haven't seen much of Bush post-presidency (which may reflect well on his character).
 
Navy Pride said:
You thought wrong..........You can be impeached for a variety of things including the commission of a felony.....
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What felony?
Also its also considered what your definition of "high crimes" are... Is having an affair considered a "high crime"?
 
TurtleDude said:
I know a fair amount of presidential detail agents


here is what they told me

Ronald Reagan-decent guy-Nancy was a bitch, Ron Jr an asshole

Carter-phony Rosalyn decent, amy a brat

GHWB. great guy-treated the agents and military like professionals, Threw snappy salutes to medal of honor winners. one war hero to another. Mrs Bush treated agents etc like family. If someone was sick Mrs Bush showed up with soup everyone loved her

Clinton-liked him. despite his claims of loathing the military, he treated servicemen and agents with respect

Hillary-the worst-referred to a medal of honor winner in an honor guard "as the help"

Chelsea-well liked by the agents Nice polite girl who had no arrogance

W-well liked-treated people like his fraternity brothers. Not nearly as formal as his father or even Reagan or Clinton.

genuinely interested in people.

wife Laura-a bit like her mother in law

girls-not as formal and polite as Chelsea but well liked. not arrogant at all (Ron Reagan jr was the winner of the arrogance award)

the one guy I know who was on an Obama detail is still in the service-no comment but I haven't heard anything bad about the man from secondary sources
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"Threw snappy salutes to medal of honor winners. one war hero to another."

That would be one documented war coward to one war hero. It's a matter of public record that he refused Vietnam duty even though he was given one million dollars worth of training to fly combat planes. What an absurd comparison. AWOL for about a year, as well. You can't get reliable information from comic books or make it up.
 
MarineTpartier said:
Politics aside. Don't think about the economy, foreign policy, etc. Think about character stuff. You know, like cheating on your wife, being a drunk, or snorting coke. Which POTUS is the most likable guy of the last three? Clinton, W Bush, or Obama.
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The one I would enjoy hanging out with most is Clinton. He's a very intelligent and insightful person and seems to be the most fun to hang out with and be friends with.
 
cpwill said:
I have a buddy who was working Camp David in his second administration. Those kinds of stories are pretty common - Bush is a genuinely good person. Makes me sad for the way he was treated.
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After reading some of the posts I have to reconsider what the poll was actually asking. If I had my choice for a neighbor and didn't know him as POTUS I'd pick Bush first since he likes to do his own pruning with a chain saw, etc. And we share how to keep stuff working around our places. If it was discussion of how things work and how the world and play is I'd pick Obama. If I was going to pick someone to travel the wold with and visit museums, restaurants, etc, I pick Clinton (I don't care about naughty sex.) I do all of the above activities.
 
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DaveFagan said:
"Threw snappy salutes to medal of honor winners. one war hero to another."

That would be one documented war coward to one war hero. It's a matter of public record that he refused Vietnam duty even though he was given one million dollars worth of training to fly combat planes. What an absurd comparison. AWOL for about a year, as well. You can't get reliable information from comic books or make it up.
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Wrong Bush. GHWB is George Herbert Walker Bush, the WW2 vet and war hero. You're confusing him with his son, Bush II.
 
radcen said:
Wrong Bush. GHWB is George Herbert Walker Bush, the WW2 vet and war hero. You're confusing him with his son, Bush II.
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Yep, you're right. I was just thinking the three in the thread.
 
MarineTpartier said:
Clinton?! No way. Dude didn't own up to his weed (I loved the way Obama did that btw), banged chicks in the White House while he was married, and just seems like a genuine douche. You think he's hot, that's all that is lol.
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Not owning up to weed and getting a BJ bothers you, but lying the country into an unnecessary war doesn't????

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Catawba said:
Not owning up to weed and getting a BJ bothers you, but lying the country into an unnecessary war doesn't????
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You know, I really hate when people like you come into a thread, don't read the op nor the whole point of the friggin thing, and try to make it serious. We're talking about 3 guys. Not 3 Presidents. We're talking about what kind of guys they are. Not what political, military, foreign policy, etc decisions they made. If you want a serious discussion about Bush policies there are dozens of threads for that on here and this isn't one of them. You and Navy Pride need to take your rhetoric somewhere else.
 
Clinton did some stupid ****, but all together he seems to be the most down to earth.

Bush probably is good, but probably different personalities, so unlikely we would bond.

Obama would probably be the mix between the two.
 
radcen said:
I always felt sorry for Ford. He really gets the short end of the stick when it comes to how history will remember him, politically and, ummm... physically. I also think he would have been a fine President had he won re-election in 1976.
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True on the physical aspect. He actually only had 3 stumbling incidents I believe. SNL with Chevy Chase did good parody on it, but he was actually quite fit and agile still while in office. He was one Pres who never had a real ambition to be Pres. It sort of fell onto him. He did right by the country, although had he not pardoned Nixon, I don't think anyone can seriously say that he would have won the 76 election. Its not like pissed of liberals would have changed their vote.
 
I would say GWB then Clinton, then Obama. Obama's true personality is still somewhat of a mystery and perhaps always will be. Cinton was the ultimate player, and not just with women, but I think with life in general. Deep down though I do believe he is a guy who does relate better to the common man. He never was a beltway boy. I did disgrace the office though. I never believed he should have been impeached.

GWB, he truly is the common man, and while not scholastically brilliant, he played coy with that a bit. Every once in a while a little bit of intellect would pop through. And he could brilliantly read people and connect with them. I think he did truly care about what he was doing in office. He seriously fell into the bubble and got disconnected the last few years of his presidency. I would be willing to bet he regrets a lot of his 2nd term. Too many yes men, and allowing certain people to have too much power in his administration. Overall though, if I had to spend time with one of them, it would be him. I am quite curious as to the true personality of Obama. I'd like to hope he is not a power hungry monster, but I do think he has by far the largest ego of any Pres with exception to LBJ. His ego went beyond ego.
 
MarineTpartier said:
You know, I really hate when people like you come into a thread, don't read the op nor the whole point of the friggin thing, and try to make it serious. We're talking about 3 guys. Not 3 Presidents. We're talking about what kind of guys they are. Not what political, military, foreign policy, etc decisions they made. If you want a serious discussion about Bush policies there are dozens of threads for that on here and this isn't one of them. You and Navy Pride need to take your rhetoric somewhere else.
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LOL! If you wanted to talk about 3 guys, not presidents, why did you pick the last 3 presidents to talk about? And that changes nothing. I admires less a guy that lie a country into an unnecessary war, than guy a that would lie about smoking weed in his youth and got a BJ by a consenting adult.
 
DaveFagan said:
I'm a Vietnam Veteran and am offended by GWShiiteForBrains being AWOL for a year and having a million dollars spent by our Nation teaching him how to fly a combat plane and then he refuses Vietnam duty. A basic coward and lyin' scumbag. Ask 45,000+ injured or dead US Soldiers caused by the Iraq lies of yours truly. He was repeatedly warned of 9-11 prior to the event. I'm sure he can come off as a nice guy unless you want to talk about or look at the facts.
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There are other matters that made me think he had a lot of appeal to me.
 
00timh said:
True on the physical aspect. He actually only had 3 stumbling incidents I believe. SNL with Chevy Chase did good parody on it, but he was actually quite fit and agile still while in office. He was one Pres who never had a real ambition to be Pres. It sort of fell onto him. He did right by the country, although had he not pardoned Nixon, I don't think anyone can seriously say that he would have won the 76 election. Its not like pissed of liberals would have changed their vote.
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I remember hearing at the time that Ford alienated the swing voters and that that cost him the election. Don't know if that's completely true, but it was a common thought at the time.

I do admire him for having the backbone to do what was right for the country over himself (re: Nixon pardon). It probably wasn't technically kosher according to our laws and proclaimed values, but it was best for the country. For that I feel he should be remembered as a good President, even if only for a couple years.

In a round-about way, he cemented Chevy Chase's place in comedic history. :2razz:
 
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Catawba said:
LOL! If you wanted to talk about 3 guys, not presidents, why did you pick the last 3 presidents to talk about? And that changes nothing. I admires less a guy that lie a country into an unnecessary war, than guy a that would lie about smoking weed in his youth and got a BJ by a consenting adult.
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Because they're well known people and it's an interesting to see if people are capable of seperating policy from personality. You, obviously, are not capable of that so your posting here is ridiculous and useless which is no surprise. Like I said, there are many threads on this website where you can bash people for policy.
 
MarineTpartier said:
Because they're well known people and it's an interesting to see if people are capable of seperating policy from personality. You, obviously, are not capable of that so your posting here is ridiculous and useless which is no surprise. Like I said, there are many threads on this website where you can bash people for policy.
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You brought up Clinton lying about smoking weed in his youth and getting a BJ, how can you now, credibly, disallow discussion of the lies by Bush that resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of people.
 
MarineTpartier said:
I can't believe Clinton is leading this thing. I figured it would be Bush, Clinton, then Obama.
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LOL! Are you high? Did you forget how much people HATED W? Do you remember that he basically left the White House through the back door with his head down? Has it not struck how little mention W has gotten since Jan '08? You really thought Bush would be leading as most likeable??? Maybe you and I have a different definition of likable, but damn, Bush is one of the most unlikable dudes in history! An East Coast, Ivy League, borderline alcoholic frat boy who spends Daddy's money? Who of sane mind likes a person like that???
 
MarineTpartier said:
Politics aside. Don't think about the economy, foreign policy, etc. Think about character stuff. You know, like cheating on your wife, being a drunk, or snorting coke. Which POTUS is the most likable guy of the last three? Clinton, W Bush, or Obama.
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I voted Bush - he's a "been there, done that" type of person, as many of us are. He atoned for his sins, made his mistakes and admitted them. To me, that requires true character.

Clinton - let's just say that what I really don't like is a president who will lie under oath and obstruct justice (just to save his own tail)..... To me, that requires utter LACK of character.

Obama - Likable as a person, annoying (to say the least) as a policymaker.

I just wish we could have someone in the oval office with true character and courage to do the right thing (and not just the popular thing).... Bush comes closest here - at least with Bush, what you saw is what you got. Not much phony about the man.
 
MarineTpartier said:
Politics aside. Don't think about the economy, foreign policy, etc. Think about character stuff. You know, like cheating on your wife, being a drunk, or snorting coke. Which POTUS is the most likable guy of the last three? Clinton, W Bush, or Obama.
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Catawba said:
You brought up Clinton lying about smoking weed in his youth and getting a BJ, how can you now, credibly, disallow discussion of the lies by Bush that resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of people.
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A) Read the first underlined and bolded
B) I also brought up Bush being a drunk, again, underlined and bolded
C) I brought up Clinton smoking weed because of the "I didn't inhale" crap. All of the listed Presidents admit to smoking weed. He's the only idiot who used the "I didn't inhale" excuse. Which is, by the way, one of the dumbest things any POTUS has ever said IMO.
D) The same could be said of Clinton due to his weak foreign policy fostering an environment for terrorism. But you don't hear me saying that do you. You hear me talking about what kind of guys they are ie infidelity or drinking which are character issues.
You want to debate Bush policies, give me a link to a thread and we'll do that. If not, stay on subject in this one. The OP clearly states foreign policy aside.
 
All of them have different likable qualities:
--Clinton is who I'd choose to have dinner with or maybe a couple of drinks - any relaxed, fun, (and public!) social atmosphere.
--If I were going to football game or doing something active like mountain biking, sport fishing, taking a day to climb a 14er - I'd choose Bush.
--If I were in the mood to hang out late at night at some coffee dive and talk history, philosophy, or human nature - I'd choose Obama.
 
MarineTpartier said:
A) Read the first underlined and bolded
B) I also brought up Bush being a drunk, again, underlined and bolded
C) I brought up Clinton smoking weed because of the "I didn't inhale" crap. All of the listed Presidents admit to smoking weed. He's the only idiot who used the "I didn't inhale" excuse. Which is, by the way, one of the dumbest things any POTUS has ever said IMO.
D) The same could be said of Clinton due to his weak foreign policy fostering an environment for terrorism. But you don't hear me saying that do you. You hear me talking about what kind of guys they are ie infidelity or drinking which are character issues.
You want to debate Bush policies, give me a link to a thread and we'll do that. If not, stay on subject in this one. The OP clearly states foreign policy aside.
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Got it, its okay to be responsible for tens of thousands dying unnecessarily but not to smoke weed or get a BJ.
 
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